There really isn't. It's probably the same crowd that downvoted AC (I think it was) on Greenlight because it wasn't iRacing.
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PC Racing Sims Thread
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would you say now a days that those are all original hardcore sim crowd, or newly hardcore sim crowd that used to game on consoles?
I've always thought/hoped that the original install base (be it PlayStation/Xbox/PC owners) are confident individuals who don't go out of their way bashing other consoles, but will debate when need be.
where as gamers who jump around from Platform to different platform, are more vocal bashing previous and other platforms.
Actually I should say... Something that often bugs me with hardcore simmer is they have a weird tendency of not being really knowledgeable when it comes to computer stuff or even gaming in general.
They are often insular communities with members that are older on average. I've seen so many people being affraid or new technologies in the past. An easy example is the fear of Steam. I've seen it with at least pCARS, Kerbal Space Program and iRacing so far. Lots of those guys have no idea how modern gaming works and are afraid of change.
Anyway... This is something that alled annoyed me.
They are often insular communities with members that are older on average. I've seen so many people being affraid or new technologies in the past. An easy example is the fear of Steam. I've seen it with at least pCARS, Kerbal Space Program and iRacing so far. Lots of those guys have no idea how modern gaming works and are afraid of change.
Anyway... This is something that alled annoyed me.
marvelharvey
Member
Now that RRRE's error 500 issues have been resolved, I managed to sink a significant amount of time into the sim last night and once again I'm surprised how far it's come along since the initial release. OK, there's still a few cars (particularly the older free ones) that have some very peculiar handling characteristics, but the more recent vehicles are an absolute joy to drive. More so if it's turbocharged and being driven through the Dunlop curve.
The amount of technical illiteracy on the iRacing forums is astounding. It didn't take long for people to start making threads about 'anyone noticed how the quality of driving has dropped significantly after the Steam release?', even though Steam has brought in maybe five total new users. My favourite one was a poster who'd had a poor experience with Steam customer service about eight years ago and was vehemently arguing against it.
It's probably a case of fanboyism really. Instead of spending hundreds on consoles, they're spending thousands on sim setups.
Totally, anything after the recent physics revamp are excellent to drive. Lots of cars need a fresh look at though, much like they did with the GT2 cars. But WTCC is coming first and that's ok.
On Assetto Corsa coming to X1/PS4:
https://translate.google.dk/transla...-corsa-su-ps4-e-xbox-one-intervista&sandbox=1
An interview discussing the port, graphics, gameplay and wheels, including Logitech.
https://translate.google.dk/transla...-corsa-su-ps4-e-xbox-one-intervista&sandbox=1
An interview discussing the port, graphics, gameplay and wheels, including Logitech.
At this point I'd recommend waiting for both E3 and the eventual releases next year. But that depends on whether you can wait
Big Takeover
Member
iRacing, AC, pCARS, RaceRoom, Live for Speed, and RBR all have Rift support to varying degrees of awesome. The rFactors and GSC do not have native support though.
LFS is the most complete of them all Rift-wise. The majority are all very much beta however.
Holy shit at the Raceroom patch!
Anthony Moteil and co have just set the bar in regards to audio and physics.
Those new effects of trans whine, suspension/chassis creak and the gearbox oscillation are just incredible. The behavior of loading and unloading on engine/gearbox is just spot on.
Great work guys!
It seems that PD are the only devs who haven't stepped up in this regard. At least however, they have acknowledged this and have started recruiting western audio devs to help them out so hopefully they'll catch up to modern times...
Anthony Moteil and co have just set the bar in regards to audio and physics.
Those new effects of trans whine, suspension/chassis creak and the gearbox oscillation are just incredible. The behavior of loading and unloading on engine/gearbox is just spot on.
Great work guys!
It seems that PD are the only devs who haven't stepped up in this regard. At least however, they have acknowledged this and have started recruiting western audio devs to help them out so hopefully they'll catch up to modern times...
So i ordered this on Saturday. I am so god damn excited. 7 years with Driving Force GT and finally upgrading..
Awesome upgrade - sure you will enjoy it. Also, the texture of the wheel looks much better without the photo-studio lighting, lol.
The Bad Guy
Member
Looking for a new sim racer. Bought Projects Cars and have been playing that for a while. But i want to see what else is out there, especially with respect to online play. What do the majority people on GAF play?
Also, i just bought a G27 wheel, so i'd be using that. I would say my skill level is intermediate if that makes any difference.
Also, i just bought a G27 wheel, so i'd be using that. I would say my skill level is intermediate if that makes any difference.
For online play nothing compares to iRacing.
Betta Lines
Member
Project CARS is the best jump-in racer for multiplayer at the moment as it is still riding the launch wave and therefore the most populated.
Assetto Corsa is probably next in terms of popularity, has some better sorting options, and has more established leagues to join.
rFactor 2 has some excellent leagues but isn't popular for public racing.
iRacing is in a class of its own in terms of multiplayer, but it uses a subscription model and therefore hard to compare with anything else.
The Bad Guy
Member
How much should i be expecting to pay for more cars and tracks? I see the base subscription on iRacing comes with 7 cars and 10 tracks. Also looks like 50% of new subscriptions right now.
Otherwise the steam sale start in few days.
Big Takeover
Member
The overall value really depends on how active you are. If you race the same series frequently, you'll end up using the same tracks again and again. Spending $40 on three tracks you'll only ever use once is obviously less value (80% of my iRacing purchases have been exactly that LOL).
Betta Lines
Member
Definitely worth trying the 3 month promo that BT posted. I'd wait a few days though - they're just transitioning to 'Week 13', where they roll out a new build along with an interesting schedule for people to try out new content. It's not representative of the usual iRacing service, there is often a fair amount of downtime while they fix problems. Nothing stopping you from jumping in right now, but you might as well wait until they roll out the new build (due tomorrow) so you're not having to download stuff twice.
Fried Food
Banned
So i ordered this on Saturday. I am so god damn excited. 7 years with Driving Force GT and finally upgrading..
ordered where? has it been officially announced?
Pretty sure that's a Thrustmaster T300RS.
The Bad Guy
Member
Thanks for the code!! No excuse not to give it a try now.
I honestly have never really done the racing series thing. But projects cars and having a wheel has peaked my interest in trying out something more structured. I don't mind spending the money if i enjoy the game.
Thanks for the heads up. Seems very hardcore in its setup, I shall see how a newbie like me handles it all.
Betta Lines
Member
It's actually really straightforward to get driving - the installer is efficient and the step-by-step instructions are clear. There are also a bunch of how-to videos about navigating the site and the in-game UI (some of these are out of date however, as a few elements have been moved around), as well as a series of 'driving school' videos. There are reference docs and the forum is full of stickies that help you through common questions.
It can get fairly technical in terms of optimising the graphics settings and force feedback, but the out-of-the-box settings are pretty good.
You'll find plenty of helpful people on the member forum (but expect some light-hearted mocking if you ask a question that is clearly in the tutorial videos!) - and there are several iRacing users here who can help out too.
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Guysguysguysguysguys. There's gonna be a timer on the flag warning for cutting a corner. This is surely the greatest build of all time.
So now that I'm back in the presence of my T500, I decided to fire up RRRE and test drive a few cars. Pretty much stuck with the Group 5 pack but I am in love with the Zakspeed Capri. I don't know if it utilizes all the new physics stuff as I heard some of the older cars are stuck with older physics, but holy crap it is a blast to drive and listen to. Can't wait until the next sale to buy it and some tracks.
T3PA pedals - decent upgrade from G27 w/ GTeye spring mod?
Also wanting to finally get the new GT wheel for my T300 - is it lighter/better in general? I have the newer stock rim pictured above. I've considered the formula rim just to have different options, but I don't think I spend enough time in open-wheelers overall.
Also wanting to finally get the new GT wheel for my T300 - is it lighter/better in general? I have the newer stock rim pictured above. I've considered the formula rim just to have different options, but I don't think I spend enough time in open-wheelers overall.
Big Takeover
Member
"Is there life beyond our planet", and "how long does iRacing's corner cut penalty last?" One last great mystery down, one to go.
marvelharvey
Member
I pretty sure there's no limit in pCARS, in fact I remember them boasting about 'we're the first game that does Le Mans properly' or something last year.
So yeah, your options are:
Le Mans 24 Hour
GTR 2
pCARS
Gran Turismo some number
rFactor 2
Aaaand I think there's one more, but it escapes me at the moment. You should be good to go with the above list though, plenty to choose from.
So yeah, your options are:
Le Mans 24 Hour
GTR 2
pCARS
Gran Turismo some number
rFactor 2
Aaaand I think there's one more, but it escapes me at the moment. You should be good to go with the above list though, plenty to choose from.
Big Takeover
Member
GSC has a 24h cycle too.
Yeah, I'm not sure how it goes down when they include an old car (in this case two) in a new pack. I'm not sure if they go back and overhaul it or what. I'm sure TJP or someone can tell us.
I definitely recommend Salzburgring with the G5 cars. Great match. Salzburgring and anything is a great match actually. It's simplicity makes it a fun track to race on. *Random YouTube video* - how can you say no to that?!
I guess WTCC '14, Shanghai, and Macau are all hitting this week. I can't believe I'd spend money on fwd cars, but I think I just might. The old cars still seem to be very popular online.
Yeah, I'm not sure how it goes down when they include an old car (in this case two) in a new pack. I'm not sure if they go back and overhaul it or what. I'm sure TJP or someone can tell us.
I definitely recommend Salzburgring with the G5 cars. Great match. Salzburgring and anything is a great match actually. It's simplicity makes it a fun track to race on. *Random YouTube video* - how can you say no to that?!
I guess WTCC '14, Shanghai, and Macau are all hitting this week. I can't believe I'd spend money on fwd cars, but I think I just might. The old cars still seem to be very popular online.
TJP
Member
16 including the various 'ribbons' and drag strips. It is an impressive number for a small, self funded team but hardly earth shattering for anyone who is accustomed to having a lot of tracks be it racing on console or PC. More info here: http://www.assettocorsa.net/laser-scanned-tracks/
I don't know how Kunos plan to add modding to the console version - I just hope they can and do.
you should watch some videos of iracings' system before joining.
stuff like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuWMQ-IyPlI
(yeah i know, that gangi guy is hard to watch)
rookie class is shit, but there is one rule that holds true: if you crash, its your fault. rookie is about learning to race clean, not winning. 90% of the crashes can be avoided. if you cant handle it, you ll probably have more fun at ACs MP.
<insert video of iRacing rookie series of people dive bombing, locking up and then taking someone out>
While this is true, learning accident avoidance in rookies is a skill that will get you out of that sub-2k iRating bracket in no time.
Now if I could only figure out how to stop spinning into the wall due to getting nervous..
TJP
Member
TJP
Member
Tim posted the quoted section in the 'Who has PCARS?' thread on the rF2 forums; a thread which has descended into the now standard/usual PCARS for and against arguements. Strangely, AC to consoles has barely been discussed.