Brilliant - many thanks. Looking forward to hearing how well it performs.
I can't believe the price that Gamer 2's are going for, or how rare they are to find for sale.
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Brilliant - many thanks. Looking forward to hearing how well it performs.
I can't believe the price that Gamer 2's are going for, or how rare they are to find for sale.
While looking for info on the Gamer 2, I saw a post from like mid 2012 asking if anybody had found any in stock. So they might have been out of stock for even longer than I thought.
I'd always been vaguely aware of transducers, but being into VR and getting Assetto Corsa and Elite Dangerous really made me realize that I'd be in the market for one. I'm really excited to try this out. I remember the day I came home with Starfox 64 and the rumble pack. I've been a fan of haptic feedback ever since, so this has me all worked up.
EDIT: Actually went through and did it, bought an actual car seat to mod:
£195.55 on ebay UK. I remember looking at getting a setup a few months ago and it did seem like a far better option to build several of your own out of parts than pay a similar price for a single buttkicker. You will probably find it cheaper to look for stuff in Speakers/subwoofer sections.
drugstore_cowboy
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What kind of effects get passed to the shaker, rumble strips and collisions?
Anything low bass. So mainly the engine rumble as I understand it. It's supposed to have enough fidelity to let you feel when it's appropriate to shift gears, at least.
I had a G25 prior to getting a G27. The G27 is such a huge step up in every way, I can't recommend it enough. I know there are much better wheels out there, but the G27 feels like the cheapest "serious" wheel I've tried (cheap as in low price, not low quality). The G27 is way, way quieter than my G25, I'd recommend a G27 over the G25 for the reduced noise alone. Plus I like the feeling of the clutch and the h-shifter.
Betta Lines
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It's popular because it's relatively inexpensive for the features on offer. The DFGT is a good entry-level wheel for sims, but the pedals are less than ideal. The G27 is the next step up, and is a big improvement particularly with the pedals. They have proven to be reliable/durable, and Logitech have good customer service. The popularity means there are many mods available, and lots of documentation on how to fix stuff, etc.
You can also use software such as Simvibe which uses a 2nd sound card going out to the transducers. You use it to set up 4 corner transducers to simulate each wheel or front/back etc. Here's the Inside Sim Racing review of it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs1CslGfFCg
You can also use software such as Simvibe which uses a 2nd sound card going out to the transducers. You use it to set up 4 corner transducers to simulate each wheel or front/back etc. Here's the Inside Sim Racing review of it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs1CslGfFCg
oh man, I wish I had another slot on my motherboard for a dedicated soundcard. That sounds amazing.
USB soundcard?
Eh, if I'm springing for four transducters I'd like to have a discreet soundcard to drive them. All the USB ports on my PC are taken up already and adding a hub adds clutter IMO.
Pops Maellard
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Interesting, might eventually change from the PWTS to a TX. I'd have to get a PS4 or a Xbone first though. I'd have to buy an adapter to get the CSR Elite pedals and the TH8RS to work on it too. There's no adapter for the TH8RS yet but I'm sure there will be.
Yeah I ordered a TX earlier this week and I don't have the XB1 yet lol... I'll enjoy it on the PC in the meantime (everybody who has had both is telling me that the FFB is superior on the TX than on the Fanatec wheels).
I also pre-ordered the CPX adapter to plug my CSP pedals in the wheel. It's one guy doing those by himself so he has limited resources and it takes a while to get them.
And yeah I don't get it for the shifter. Considering that all the rims and pedals can be mixed between the T500, TX and T300RS I wonder why the shifter is not compatible.
Apparently the shifter port is completely disabled on the current TX firmware so maybe they will finally enable it for the new shifter the TH8RS will simply work? A shifter is super simple electronic, I really don't see why it wouldn't work between wheels.
drugstore_cowboy
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TH8RS is a standalone USB only shifter, the TH8A has both the USB for PC (hopefully PS too) and DIN to connect to the TX. I dont think it's possible to go USB to PS/2 with the RS...at least I hope not after all this waiting.
Big Takeover
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I was under the impression the TH8A was going to be a lower cost option (or same price for lower quality). Wasn't it mostly plastic in the original promo shots? Whatever, this is the better way of doing it. I'll be happy to take a TH8RS on clearance if that's where it's headed.
Oh, didn't knew the TH8RS was only USB.... Yeah I guess you would need an adapter then.
gutterboy44
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G27 on sale for $209 on Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001NT9TK4/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Has there been any change or new releases on the PC scene in relation to a GT/Forza style game with a comprehensive career mode?
The closest I have seen is Grid Autosport as I'm assuming Assetto has no campaign mode as of yet?
I was so close to dipping on Grid and then saw the god-awful cockpit view which made me think twice.
How does Grid Autosport compare to something like GT? Less sim and more arcade or a good balance. I ask as I currently use a G27 and am seriously considering (when I finally find a decent game) upgrading my set-up and have heard Codemaster's games tend to favour joypad use over wheels.
So many great full on sim racers, but I'd love one with a career mode to chill out with when not on mp.
The closest I have seen is Grid Autosport as I'm assuming Assetto has no campaign mode as of yet?
I was so close to dipping on Grid and then saw the god-awful cockpit view which made me think twice.
How does Grid Autosport compare to something like GT? Less sim and more arcade or a good balance. I ask as I currently use a G27 and am seriously considering (when I finally find a decent game) upgrading my set-up and have heard Codemaster's games tend to favour joypad use over wheels.
So many great full on sim racers, but I'd love one with a career mode to chill out with when not on mp.
drugstore_cowboy
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Yeah I didn't know it either, thought they connected to the wheel Fanatec style.
Talking of shifters, I've got a brand new Fanatec Porsche sequential and well used silent modded H shifter with chopsticks if anyone wants them for the cost of postage in UK.
I'd deffo be interested mate - my h-pattern and seq can be intermittent at times. Too much mudding!
pCARS is released in november and has a solid career compareable to Grid: Autosport.
oh....oh....oh lord
soundscream
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Its the same damn product with few new parts, which is odd as to why they are taking so long to get it out.
But going on the facebook page https://www.facebook.com/ThrustmasterXTeam?fref=ts and seeing people troll every update post is kind of fun.
Struggling to find equivalent parts for similar money in the UK. Any Brits here able to offer help?
How intensively are you using car setups when you can? They make a huge difference in the handling of the cars depending on your input device and driving style.
So I have a TX on the way... I woke up this morning thinking about the iphone apps that are or will be available for the different games on pc and bought that. Hopefully I'll be able to fit the phone in the rim ok.
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251521076088
Now I just need the actual apps! I already have one for rf2. I saw that there's one available for AC so I need to buy it. Anything available yet for pCARS?
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251521076088
Now I just need the actual apps! I already have one for rf2. I saw that there's one available for AC so I need to buy it. Anything available yet for pCARS?
You might need to lock the display so it doesn't keep flipping between landscape and portrait when you turn the wheel..!
Ah fuck didn't think about that. You can lock portrait, you can't lock landscape....
It can be controlled by the app tho so hopefully the apps are actually thinking about that.
Edit: Yeah I just tried the AC apps and it works perfectly.
Big Takeover
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GSC Extreme: Niels' talk and drive Formula Vee (new) @ Buenos Aires (new)
I can't wait for this thing to hit. It's frisky nature is right in my wheelhouse. A great choice of car by Reiza.
I can't wait for this thing to hit. It's frisky nature is right in my wheelhouse. A great choice of car by Reiza.
I have a doubt I hope you can help me with. I have a DFGT and I like the wheel itelf, but pedals are crap. Not only they lack clutch, but they're bad quality in general. I'd like to upgrade them, but I don't want to spend a lot of money. I've checked second hand market, but I'm not sure it's a good idea to get second hand pedals. Then, standalone pedals seem to be very expensive.
Is there a cheap solution that is good? Do I need to invest big money for great pedals? Or maybe I should upgrde the whole wheel?
Is there a cheap solution that is good? Do I need to invest big money for great pedals? Or maybe I should upgrde the whole wheel?
JMZ555
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I picked up Assetto Corsa , just waiting on my Oculus Rift DK2 (And for it to get modded in)
Im not a big fan of Sim racing games but i recently watched the Film Rush which put me in the mood.
Assetto Corsa has been pretty cool from what i played. Im thinking of picking up a wheel and pedals, combined with DK2 should be pretty epic.
Im not a big fan of Sim racing games but i recently watched the Film Rush which put me in the mood.
Assetto Corsa has been pretty cool from what i played. Im thinking of picking up a wheel and pedals, combined with DK2 should be pretty epic.
That's a great saving. Hopefully they're clearing shelf space for their new PS4/Bone/PC multiplat wheel!
That's what I am hoping too. great price but not in the position to buy a wheel for this price for just the PC.
According to pCARS twitter there will be a wheel announcement for PS4 and also WiiU this week, so I am looking forward to this. Can't say by which company though.
I had a G27 before I upgraded to the Fanatec GT2 and used the G27 pedals with the GT2 before upgrading to Clubsport pedals. The G27 pedals were pretty good though. At the time (this was a few years ago) there were quite a few people selling second-hand G27 pedals cheap on eBay. Not sure if this is still the case. They seemed pretty bomb-proof to me.
This is all assuming the G27 pedals work with your DFGT. I have no idea if that's the case.
TLDR: G27 pedals.
Edit: a full wheel-shifter-pedal G27 package is pretty cheap at the moment on Amazon. Take a peek.
Big Takeover
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The new TM pedals are just like the T500s - a proprietary rj11 thingy.
http://youtu.be/BKmA0-9DECU?t=1m48s
You can get a Bodinhausen T500RS Pedal Adapter to go along with a Bodnar cable, but you're in it for close to the price of the pedals at that point.
If you want to use G25/27 pedals with a different wheel, you'll need a Bodnar cable anyway. $35usd+shipping, + used G2x pedals... I used that combo for a long time and liked it, but it's more expensive than it should be. You'd probably be better of hunting for some used Clubsports, or think about making the jump a whole new setup rather than building around the DFGT.
The DFGT pedals are terrible though. A nicer set will do wonders for your lap times.
http://youtu.be/BKmA0-9DECU?t=1m48s
You can get a Bodinhausen T500RS Pedal Adapter to go along with a Bodnar cable, but you're in it for close to the price of the pedals at that point.
If you want to use G25/27 pedals with a different wheel, you'll need a Bodnar cable anyway. $35usd+shipping, + used G2x pedals... I used that combo for a long time and liked it, but it's more expensive than it should be. You'd probably be better of hunting for some used Clubsports, or think about making the jump a whole new setup rather than building around the DFGT.
The DFGT pedals are terrible though. A nicer set will do wonders for your lap times.
I caved and bought this setup after reading some reviews. Do you know if I could get away with running 2 bass shakers off that amp you linked?
TJP
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Formula Vee is looking great! Reiza tweeted that Vanport has been updated for GSC-E by a member of RD: http://t.co/HDzkssdc19
Edit: here is a direct link to all of RD's GSC-E tracks: http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/categories/gsc-tracks.22/
Thanks. I looked there a few days ago but prices seemed steep.
Check this thread, they talk about UK parts: http://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/2a9e9e/butt_kicker/
No clue, I'm not really an audio guy so I'm the wrong person to ask.
Great - many thanks.
My current 5.1 includes an active sub driven by a Yamaha amp. Would I need a separate amp to drive a homebrew transducer, or could I split the feed that goes to the current sub?
I would expect you'd want your own amp for the transducer to really drive it harder than you might be willing to drive your sub.
marvelharvey
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Am I correct thinking the T500 doesn't come in a pedal-less version? I want to buy a new wheel, but already have Club Sport Pedals V2. Getting the whole set seems a bit of a waste.
I would consider a standalone Fanatec wheel if I didn't see so many GAFfers having reliability issues with the base unit.
I would consider a standalone Fanatec wheel if I didn't see so many GAFfers having reliability issues with the base unit.
Betta Lines
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I've seen plenty of people with issues with the V2 pedals too, so having the T500 pedals as a backup is not such a bad idea.