PCs are better than consoles argument tree

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Transistor said:
This is the only argument about it that needs to happen:

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It's not very useful if you're trying to decide what you're going to buy, whereas a proper discussion of the relative merits of both can be.
 
Most console players, at least on internet forums like GAF and Reddit, are well aware of the advantages of PC gaming and just don't care. Shit like this is just a dumb circlejerk.
 
Tenebrous said:
Just means the PC market is underserved in those areas you're on about, because technically, there's nothing to stop the PC doing everything any console can.

Wii U still the GOAT though.
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Consoles have convenience (as in easier access for non tech savvy people) and is a better medium for people who don't want to invest 800+ in a gaming device, even if that means investing 400 every 6 years or so (but you have to upgrade a PC anyway)
PC has better specs obviously, also polyvalence, more tools, more games in general. Oh and more options for peripherals (KB+M support on console is a joke)
 
I would be more interested in seeing a timeline of how the console vs PC arguments have changed over the last 15 years or so. The goalposts in favor of consoles have constantly been moved as people have gotten more and more accomodated with features and facts of life that were previously reserved for PC, like patches and mandatory installs, primarily a western library focused on FPS, etc.
 
Most of what I want to play never comes out on PC. I was a PC gamer for years, and gave up on it because I was constantly jealous of what console gamers got to play. It's changed a lot since then, but it's still not reliable that the games I want will run the way I want them to.

Plus, I live in Japan, and buying console games and systems themselves is just plain cheaper. Not to mention Japanese game companies block a lot of their Steam releases in Japan so you pay their shitty premium.
 
Console gamers are not the common enemy. Modern consoles are.

I feel it's important to include this information in the article as soon as possible, since a lot of people get the wrong impression going in and don't take information to heart until they realize they're being educated rather than scolded... I should also point out that it's well-known that past consoles outperformed PCs, but that was the past. This is now. Things are different. The openness of the PC was bound to be taken advantage of eventually, and what triggered it is the stagnation of the console market. And, now that the console market has stagnated and the PC is a viable alternative, it's very possible that traditional consoles with total control under a single corporation is entirely going to vanish.

Sony and Microsoft give you an inferior system, charge you a lot of extra money for it, and make you hold on to the pieces of junk for 8 years before they give you the option of (measly) upgrades. By selling you these systems, they lock you into their overpriced ecosystem, helping them further the cycle with their ill-acquired money. They don't let you play with friends unless you pay. They don't let you play with friends that bought the other systems at all. They don't let developers directly sell you the game - they charge for dev kits and include royalties, which massively decreases their profits over that of the PC version. When you take into account the business strategy of these companies, you'll find that it's all just one big greedy systematic ripoff of uneducated consumers. They're holding your favorite games hostage on their closed platforms because they know you'll buy into it. If everyone went with a PC and disregarded this disgusting behavior, these developers wouldn't be so easily convinced to support these "next-gen" consoles. So, do yourself and the industry a favor and go with a PC. PC exists because it's an excellent platform and for no other reason than that. Nobody's advertising it. Nobody's cutting deals with Frito Lay to get it stamped on Dorito bags. Nobody's running a 'PC booth' at gaming festivals. PC exists and thrives simply because it is freaking glorious. XBox and PlayStation consoles exist because their parent corporations hijack developers (and games) that people love and cancel ports to competing platforms (other consoles as well as PC), and force fans of these games to pay a 'hardware ransom' to play it. The PC is open, cheap, customizable, and powerful. Your best interests are always at hand, no matter how arrogant some PC gamers may seem when they speak negatively of the "anti-gamer" consoles. For anyone that's offended, I am truly sorry... but if you're going to get offended over this guide then you probably had no intention of giving PC a chance in the first place. Just remember: PC gaming is superior to console gaming, but the gamers themselves are neither superior or inferior to one another: they're just people with varying degrees of understanding. Fight the misinformation, fight the false advertising, and fight the anti-gaming console monopoly. Long live freedom, long live affordable and beautiful gaming, and long live the Glorious PC Gaming Master Race!

This is a thing that exists.
 
Manu said:
Console gamers are not the common enemy. Modern consoles are.

I feel it's important to include this information in the article as soon as possible, since a lot of people get the wrong impression going in and don't take information to heart until they realize they're being educated rather than scolded... I should also point out that it's well-known that past consoles outperformed PCs, but that was the past. This is now. Things are different. The openness of the PC was bound to be taken advantage of eventually, and what triggered it is the stagnation of the console market. And, now that the console market has stagnated and the PC is a viable alternative, it's very possible that traditional consoles with total control under a single corporation is entirely going to vanish.

Sony and Microsoft give you an inferior system, charge you a lot of extra money for it, and make you hold on to the pieces of junk for 8 years before they give you the option of (measly) upgrades. By selling you these systems, they lock you into their overpriced ecosystem, helping them further the cycle with their ill-acquired money. They don't let you play with friends unless you pay. They don't let you play with friends that bought the other systems at all. They don't let developers directly sell you the game - they charge for dev kits and include royalties, which massively decreases their profits over that of the PC version. When you take into account the business strategy of these companies, you'll find that it's all just one big greedy systematic ripoff of uneducated consumers. They're holding your favorite games hostage on their closed platforms because they know you'll buy into it. If everyone went with a PC and disregarded this disgusting behavior, these developers wouldn't be so easily convinced to support these "next-gen" consoles. So, do yourself and the industry a favor and go with a PC. PC exists because it's an excellent platform and for no other reason than that. Nobody's advertising it. Nobody's cutting deals with Frito Lay to get it stamped on Dorito bags. Nobody's running a 'PC booth' at gaming festivals. PC exists and thrives simply because it is freaking glorious. XBox and PlayStation consoles exist because their parent corporations hijack developers (and games) that people love and cancel ports to competing platforms (other consoles as well as PC), and force fans of these games to pay a 'hardware ransom' to play it. The PC is open, cheap, customizable, and powerful. Your best interests are always at hand, no matter how arrogant some PC gamers may seem when they speak negatively of the "anti-gamer" consoles. For anyone that's offended, I am truly sorry... but if you're going to get offended over this guide then you probably had no intention of giving PC a chance in the first place. Just remember: PC gaming is superior to console gaming, but the gamers themselves are neither superior or inferior to one another: they're just people with varying degrees of understanding. Fight the misinformation, fight the false advertising, and fight the anti-gaming console monopoly. Long live freedom, long live affordable and beautiful gaming, and long live the Glorious PC Gaming Master Race!

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Inferior system? Lot of extra money? And the what...?? This can't be real.
 
Of course PC's are better as a platform but there's so many preferences that push people to either PC or console that it's usually just not about the hardware and ability to run games at high resolutions/framerates that matters.

I'm the same way. I have a relatively kick-ass PC (980Ti club, aw yea) but I enjoy my PS4 more. Preferences. *shrugs*
 
Amentallica said:
I built a gaming PC over six months ago and have done very little gaming on it. I played more on my PS4 in the six months that I had it. I'm not entirely sure what prevents me from wanting to boot up a game on my PC, but I didn't really have this issue with consoles. Of course I had dry spells every now and then where I wouldn't play games for several months at a time, but this is a new phenomenon that I'm experiencing. I want to play some PC games but I have no desire to do it on PC.

I can hypothesize that one issue is not feeling as connected with users in a game on a PC as I do on a console. It's funny because I always took friend notifications and things like that for granted and never really cared for it when I had a PS3 and PS4, but now I feel ever so isolated on PC and it isn't fun. I thought maxing out Alien Isolation would have felt better than it does. Ugh
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I definitely feel the same about the social aspect feeling a lot more lively on consoles. Good observation.

Also...why not both?
 
i hope this new found sage acceptance of each other's platform preferences continues into the next thread which announces a performance disparity between the two consoles.
 
Oh this was done seriously? Thought it was a parody of this tired argument.

Top Tired Gaming Topics:

1. Are games art?
2. Consoles vs. PC
3. Digital Media vs. Physical
4. Is DLC ruining games?
5. Why broken games?
 
Cool chart. Seems to be community curated?

Anyway consoles make better bluray players. Everything else is preference. :P
 
I didn't look at the link, but what I really appreciate on PC is it's free to play online games. I also have a PS4 and the free to play games are free to play online too. I also play a lot of free to play games on PC, there are so many, and so many good ones that take up a lot of my gaming time (still haven't got hooked on DOTA 2 but I enjoy HOTS).
 
It's also weird how the master race stuff always leaves out Nintendo.

It's true that a PC could technically do everything a Nintendo console does, supporting stuff like a motion control wand, balance board, game pad with built in screen, etc. All of the hardware and software could exist on PC...but it currently doesn't, which is all that matters.

I can understand arguments that most console games come out on PC eventually and you're not getting that different of an experience on console, you can use a standard XBox controller on PC and such. But Nintendo's hardware and software is simply not on PC. There's no console vs. PC argument that matters if you want to play Smash Bros, Mario Kart, or Mario Maker.

That's probably why they're left out of the discussion, in their case specifically it simply comes down to preference. Nothing a "master race" can say against it, other than that it's kiddy shit or whatever.
 
If I had a PC of equal power (not necessarily the same components) to a console, would it be likely that a game would perform better on a console since the game was tailored to its specific hardware? This isn't meant to be inflammatory. It's a legitimate question.
 
What prevents me from buying the newer system is the paywall and "features" that is/was included.

A piss poor cloud saving.
Auto updates was behind PS+.
Apps like Netflix required a Gold account.
Fucking Discounts.
And the biggest deal breaker, playing games online.

It didn't made the services any better especially when we kept seeing threads on how slow PSN is.
 
Wulfram said:
It's not very useful if you're trying to decide what you're going to buy, whereas a proper discussion of the relative merits of both can be.
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Agreed, it's something worth discussing about. However, i doubt that was what OP crave when he created this thread. Probably just trying to start another systems war bullshit.
 
1. Git gud. Git moneyz.
2. Get pc, get consoles.
3. ???
4. Profit

On a serious note:

As many people already said: There are multiple reasons why People choose one gaming system over the other (exclusives, friends etc.). One person might be happy with owning just a gaming pc, another person is happy owning a gaming console and a third person is happy owning a pc and consoles..
 
Apollo Cree said:
If I had a PC of equal power (not necessarily the same components) to a console, would it be likely that a game would perform better on a console since the game was tailored to its specific hardware? This isn't meant to be inflammatory. It's a legitimate question.
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Consoles run better at similar specs, but similar specs are garbage in comparison to current average PC spec
Like a 960 which is pretty standard/affordable blows the fuck out of the PS4 or XB1's GPU
 
Apollo Cree said:
If I had a PC of equal power (not necessarily the same components) to a console, would it be likely that a game would perform better on a console since the game was tailored to its specific hardware? This isn't meant to be inflammatory. It's a legitimate question.
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This used to be a legitimate point, but tailoring a game to specific hardware takes more effort than most modern game companies want to put out.

The order of the day is quick, easy ports, using any extra power as breathing room so that the game performs the same on all platforms, rather than getting into the intricacies of how the hardware was designed to eke out better performance.
 
as someone who has been a PC gamer all my life (I had a cheap nes knock off as a kid and now a PS3 and I might get a PS4 somewhere down the line), the hatred some people have for consoles is kinda insane
 
Here's an argument tree to help illustrate why I'm better than you.

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Caayn
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You're the best!
 
Manu said:
Console gamers are not the common enemy. Modern consoles are.

I feel it's important to include this information in the article as soon as possible, since a lot of people get the wrong impression going in and don't take information to heart until they realize they're being educated rather than scolded... I should also point out that it's well-known that past consoles outperformed PCs, but that was the past. This is now. Things are different. The openness of the PC was bound to be taken advantage of eventually, and what triggered it is the stagnation of the console market. And, now that the console market has stagnated and the PC is a viable alternative, it's very possible that traditional consoles with total control under a single corporation is entirely going to vanish.

Sony and Microsoft give you an inferior system, charge you a lot of extra money for it, and make you hold on to the pieces of junk for 8 years before they give you the option of (measly) upgrades. By selling you these systems, they lock you into their overpriced ecosystem, helping them further the cycle with their ill-acquired money. They don't let you play with friends unless you pay. They don't let you play with friends that bought the other systems at all. They don't let developers directly sell you the game - they charge for dev kits and include royalties, which massively decreases their profits over that of the PC version. When you take into account the business strategy of these companies, you'll find that it's all just one big greedy systematic ripoff of uneducated consumers. They're holding your favorite games hostage on their closed platforms because they know you'll buy into it. If everyone went with a PC and disregarded this disgusting behavior, these developers wouldn't be so easily convinced to support these "next-gen" consoles. So, do yourself and the industry a favor and go with a PC. PC exists because it's an excellent platform and for no other reason than that. Nobody's advertising it. Nobody's cutting deals with Frito Lay to get it stamped on Dorito bags. Nobody's running a 'PC booth' at gaming festivals. PC exists and thrives simply because it is freaking glorious. XBox and PlayStation consoles exist because their parent corporations hijack developers (and games) that people love and cancel ports to competing platforms (other consoles as well as PC), and force fans of these games to pay a 'hardware ransom' to play it. The PC is open, cheap, customizable, and powerful. Your best interests are always at hand, no matter how arrogant some PC gamers may seem when they speak negatively of the "anti-gamer" consoles. For anyone that's offended, I am truly sorry... but if you're going to get offended over this guide then you probably had no intention of giving PC a chance in the first place. Just remember: PC gaming is superior to console gaming, but the gamers themselves are neither superior or inferior to one another: they're just people with varying degrees of understanding. Fight the misinformation, fight the false advertising, and fight the anti-gaming console monopoly. Long live freedom, long live affordable and beautiful gaming, and long live the Glorious PC Gaming Master Race!

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I was pretty fond of this part:

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The paranoia is incredible. The flowchart overlooks that the worst part of PC gaming is the (largely) embarrassing community.
 
fastmower said:
I definitely feel the same about the social aspect feeling a lot more lively on consoles. Good observation.

Also...why not both?
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Yea, it's interesting. I never paid attention to it before and actually distanced myself from online users over the years ever since I got a PS3 in 2009. But now I feel like I'm yearning for some social interaction in my games which is why I plan on picking up another PS4 and Black Ops 3 when it launches. And Call of Duty is a series I vowed to never play again. It's become that bad.

Now one can argue that socialization is at its peak when on PC, given that I can access a multitude of social programs while playing a game and the internet is right there at my fingertips. But I'd argue that the social aspect is more detached from PC games than it is on consoles. I can feel that it's different and that's what's making me feel this way, I think.
 
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