PCs are better than consoles argument tree
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Steve Youngblood
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Don't take this as some sort of resounding endorsement or anything as I primarily use a 360 controller, but for what it's worth, I've had no problems with InputMapper and a DS4 on Windows 10. I've used it infrequently since the Windows 10 preview days, and have had no issues.
That's not true and you know it. Steam is just a distributor. A very popular one, yes. But this argument is like saying "most games are on Playstation only these days with indies and all so didn't know GTA was different/on X-box."
AKA: Very stupid and short-sighted.
I only needed DS3InputWrapper for my DS3. I think the DS4 is similar? Just get a wrapper and make it think it's a 360 controller. Problem is you run into issues with the touchpad, but... *shrug*
Hardly. There pertinent examples all over this thread that seemingly disprove that diagram.
We are talking about the whole Console ecosystem or just PlayStation or Xbox ? i was talking about Console sales, all the consoles that the game came out, i mean the game probably sold over 20m on Ps3 alone and over 15m on Xbox 360 since it was 35m before next gen arrived.
im not saying Pc games dont sell, im just saying they sell less, those Triple A Games but they sell, of course they sell im not stupid i know these games are adopted on Pc, just not as many people, that does not mean Pc Gaming is dead, it just means Pc gaming is different. Pc players seem to love games like League and Dota instead of AAA and that´s fine, those games are great.
MGS V 700K on Pc is impressive but how much it did on Ps4? Japan alone is 400K on Ps4 or close.
im sorry if im not into Pc Gaming that much and the only thing i play on Pc are on Steam, i didnt know GTA was elsewhere.
I hovered over it. I can't keep up with the sarcasm.
Oh don't worry. The people who actually wrote it weren't being sarcastic.
Steve Youngblood
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InputMapper seemed to work just fine with the touchpad. Like I said, I don't use it often enough to swear by it, as there may be some issues with that software that I'm not aware of. But I just thought I'd note that it's an option that's out there on Win10.
Dreams-Visions
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Never? Like, never ever? Why not? At best, you're ignoring some of the best games available in gaming that are literally free. Is your PC just that shit (you clearly have one or you wouldn't be posting)? A 2009 laptop GPU can run most of those games at decent frames and resolution and you can strap on your DS4 with the USB cable that your PS4 came with.
Saying "never" is not exactly a badge of honor at this point.
DrROBschiz
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Its so weird to compare the two honestly
PC is ubiqitous and not locked down by the various markets it occupies much like cell phones, tablets, and any other mass media device
Its like the same argument PCs fall into when trying to setup a media box. Do you use a PC, Laptop, MiniPC, Fire Box, Apple TV, Chromecast?
Superior platform arguments fall by wayside as individuals more often seek the path of least resistance to achieve the goal they desire
I can't even tell what is a parody and what isn't anymore.
"The best games in gaming"?
Cizeta-Moroder
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They're all computers man. Compute what you want, how you want. But don't waste too much energy. Oh, and don't be a heathen or something.
BennyBlanco
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Yeah, AAA games sell better on consoles by and large, but as a consumer why should that factor in to what I consider as the "better" platform. I'll take the 60 fps GTAV with way better IQ that sold less any day of the week.
Also it's worth noting that publishers make more money off PC sales per unit because they're not printing discs or paying for console certifications and the games have way longer tails because they don't suddenly become irrelevant when the next gen of consoles come out.
There is no need for this argument tree. If you prefer to play on a console and actually admit it on the internet you've already heard all the arguments. Several times. Repeated. Over and over. And no one wants to hear that it comes down to priorities, not which one is better. Console works for me and what I want and PC doesn't. And the better graphics on PC is not something that important to me (it's nice but not enough to overcome why I'd find it more inconvenient).
Let me guess (and I'll try to refrain my retorts)
1. PCs are not that expensive, it only costs a little more than a console to get better graphics.
2. PCs are not hard to put together.
3. All that stuff back in the past with drivers is not so bad on PC anymore, it's easier.
4. Better graphics of course.
5. Cheaper overall if you buy off steam
6. Cheaper overall cause you can just replace a part if you need a better computer
7. Consoles are holding games back!!!!
8. You can connect it to a tv
9. You can connect a controller to it
10. You get to use it as a computer too
Let me guess (and I'll try to refrain my retorts)
1. PCs are not that expensive, it only costs a little more than a console to get better graphics.
2. PCs are not hard to put together.
3. All that stuff back in the past with drivers is not so bad on PC anymore, it's easier.
4. Better graphics of course.
5. Cheaper overall if you buy off steam
6. Cheaper overall cause you can just replace a part if you need a better computer
7. Consoles are holding games back!!!!
8. You can connect it to a tv
9. You can connect a controller to it
10. You get to use it as a computer too
Dreams-Visions
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you need to re-read that. your quote is missing some very important words that preceded it. it wasn't even a long statement. don't be lazy. unless your attempt was to be a parody of someone that can read, of course. if that was the case, carry on.
Gipsy Danger
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Nobody can tell what is or is not a parody anymore! It's chaos!
I disagree here. There is absolutely no way you could do an accurate Flight Simulator with console. It would have to be dumbed down or require extra hardware to add in more controls you can put in. Other than that, I can see that argument. But there is absolutely no way to do a good Flight Simulator with just a controller.
Actually no, I don't own a PC. I do all my browsing from my work laptop.
My PC is a mac.... so yes it is shit for gaming and I don't particularly want to put the money into a gaming PC (besides, I prefer playing in front of my tv and why shoudl I have to justify why I don't want to connect a PC to my tv or move it from tv back to my room?). The two things that might convince me is mods for Bethesda games and playing MS Flight Simulator (The old versions cause they ruined it after X).
Dreams-Visions
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ooooh okay. carry on, then. o7
If you do happen to find yourself owning a modern computer, do hook yourself up with some of these free games and whatnot. No reason not to.
I'm sorry...who was talking to you again? You just had a full on argument seemingly with yourself?
You are posting in a public forum where many people see your arguments and can respond. If you wanted it to be a private conversation, then you should use PMs
. You seemed confused why people wouldn't just use their PC to play games since they already had it. I was giving you one of many scenarios why some one wouldn't.
You are one passive aggressive little mofo my friend.
I'm sorry, but the legit anger you seemed to have because somebody didn't have Steam was amusing. It's a daft enough thing that I wasn't sure if you were playing it up a little bit.
and the sad thing is, you wasn't.
Lupin the Third
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Nothing against PC gaming here as I have a decent setup of my own, but it's really too easy to get distracted by other things (like GAF or personal projects) to the point where by the time you're bored and want to play a game you might be too tired to even bother. When you sit down at a console, that's what you're there for. Almost no distractions (even a good browser on the console is nothing like the ease of a kbam equivalent).
family_guy
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To some it just doesn't matter. I have a bunch of Steam games and they all have been available on consoles. The PC exclusives don't matter to me. If it's a difference of $20 or more to buy the PS4 version vs the PC, then I'll get the PC version...assuming it's not a multiplayer game since I prefer consoles for that.
NoblesseOblige
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That sounds like a personal attention issue, nothing inherent to gaming choice. Also I read all the time people here who browse their phones and talk on GAF while they're playing console. In fact I was criticized in a Bloodborne thread for NOT having a phone with me to distract me from the game's loading screens.
Lupin the Third
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Just sharing my experience with the two. Your mileage may vary. Like I said I have nothing against PC gaming.
SmokedMeat
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NoblesseOblige
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I know, I didn't take it that way. I'm just saying people get distracted at console too (seems I edited after you responded).
Edit: Also I like to multitask, which makes PC preferred. I rarely just game. I usually game, watch a show/movie or listen to a podcast, and chat with some people through a messaging client.
Maybe if you don't know shit about anything. PC version of SF has the lowest input lag (which you can also adjust if you want it closer to tournament standard) and least amount of people on wi-fi (at least on par with XBL). Matches also typically load in half the time. It's the best version for local play at your house and for online. The 360/PS3 versions drop frames on certain stages. Tournaments are run on consoles due to logistics (they already had consoles for a long time) and recently on PS4 because of the Sony sponsorship, not because the PC version is intrinsically worse somehow.
This thread is some bait, though.
You know, I have that problem with playing on PC/my mac (the few games I have on it). And it is easier not to do it on consoles (because if I'm on my computer it's my habit to read the internet but I don't have that same habit on my console). And they have done studies showing that if you want to stop doing stuff, then don't do things you normally do with that habit (Like in addictions they tell you not to hang out at the places you used to when you did drugs or hang out with friends. And it's not just that those friends might be bad influence but putting yourself in a situation that was like when you are doing the addiction is a lot more likely to trigger you to do the addiction thing again).
So, it is distracting to me to play my games on my Mac (I really wish I could play Fallout 2 on my console and it's one reason Wastelands 2 is more appealing to me simply cause I can play it on my console now. Good thing I'm almost done with Fallout 2).
huh? are you from the future or something
NoblesseOblige
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I wouldn't be able to play a CRPG for long on a console. I require the ability to quickly pull up information on the fly to make decisions because I hate regretting them later. That's especially the case for a game like Wasteland 2.
But I realize this is also my own personal preference.
That's what my tablet is for
(person I responded to is right htat you still have smartphones and tablets to distract you. I just find it less distracting/immersion breaking than wanting to use the device I'm using to play the game to also peruse the internet)shadowsdarknes
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I enjoy a small box with little maintenance and a standard controller.
I like a simple OS with standardized features. I like a common friends list for all my games and a common chat application.
I like being able to hook my console up to my living room TV while my desktop stays in my office.
I could move my PC to my living room space, but I'd hate to move my PC back and forth every time. I could get a second PC, but its just not needed. A PS4 suits my needs very well.
I have no qualms with PC gaming, but its upsides are not particularly valuable to me.
I like a simple OS with standardized features. I like a common friends list for all my games and a common chat application.
I like being able to hook my console up to my living room TV while my desktop stays in my office.
I could move my PC to my living room space, but I'd hate to move my PC back and forth every time. I could get a second PC, but its just not needed. A PS4 suits my needs very well.
I have no qualms with PC gaming, but its upsides are not particularly valuable to me.
NoblesseOblige
Banned
That's what my tablet is for
I'm a phone Luddite so I don't have a smartphone. And tablets just feel so slow and clumsy to me. Though I have found myself borrowing an iPad from work to finish 100%ing MGSV. Otherwise I realized I was getting up every 10 minutes to walk over to my computer and look up information on where the next animal was.
Well yeah that would kinda suck. On the other hand part of me feels that it may not be good for me to have a tablet to look up spoilers to force me to try to figure it out myself and only go to the computer when I'm really stuck. Especially on games where I have to decide what is the best decision to come to a peaceful conclusion/everyone is happy (which happens in pretty much my favorite games). I'm wondering how different the game would be for me if I actually had to just choose and hope I chose right. Was looking forward to this happening in Fallout 4 (first Fallout I've played launch day) but then I got suckered into the collector's edition guide cause "OMG collector's edition" (I'm a bit of a sucker when it comes to stuff that I'm a huge fan of).
All I get from these arguments is two things
PC gamers are insecure (when they have no reason to be)
They can't comprehend or learn to let go of the fact, that some of us just don't want to game on PC, they reply back with long paragraphs as to why it's superior...but all I get out of it is
"Why won't you play with me"
Like why do people care or feel the need to sell me on the "best experience" when I'm happy with a console?
Why does me, not playing on PC, bother you so much Mr Rsndom PC Gamer
PC gamers are insecure (when they have no reason to be)
They can't comprehend or learn to let go of the fact, that some of us just don't want to game on PC, they reply back with long paragraphs as to why it's superior...but all I get out of it is
"Why won't you play with me"
Like why do people care or feel the need to sell me on the "best experience" when I'm happy with a console?
Why does me, not playing on PC, bother you so much Mr Rsndom PC Gamer
Solid Samus
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I don't understand the purpose of this thread.
Neat. You're getting out of this thread the exact opposite of what I've gotten out of console gamer input in every other PC thread on GAF including this one. Wonder why that is.
Neat. You're getting out of this thread the exact opposite of what I've gotten out of console gamer input in every other PC thread on GAF including this one. Wonder why that is.
- If you care about exclusives and non-multi-plats and the latest videogames, you should think about consoles.
- If you care about short-term price and the initial cost and usually drop 60$ per videogame on release, you should think about consoles.
- If portability is an issue and your current friendlist all play on console, you should think about consoles.
- If you want a local multiplayer box and a very TV friendly experience out of the box, you should think about consoles.
- If you care enough about graphics that you complain about resolution and framerate, it's time to think about PC.
- If you care enough about video-game prices and long-term costs and free online, it's time to think about PC.
- If you care enough to want backwards compatibility and emulation choices for retro consoles and games, it's time to think about PC.
- If you care enough to want an open, consumer driven environment and enjoy building and working with computers, it's time to think about PC.
- If you want a customizable, tailored experience and enjoy indie games, it's time to think about PC.
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