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Perfect Dark Zero an embarrasement for Microsoft?

Great King Bowser said:
What is this "wall guy" talk I keep hearing? Someone mind explaining its meaning to me please.
There's a Wall Guy club thread that used to be stickied, look for it and all your questions will be answered.
 
5+ month til release, 5 month til master, 3 month to tweak the engine and in a normal developent cycle the gameplay should nearly finalized by now.

I dont expect any miracles if they dont delay it, the game is already 4 years in development.
 
WTF MS? You really fucked up here.

From everything I have seen, PD0 is a fucking travesty. And this is supposed to be their "killer" launch title. Someone needs to get fired.

Nintendo must be laughing their asses off. Someone actually bought Rare from them.

MS = Dumbasses (with regards to Rare purchase)
 
Sure they don't want to show it. I'm sure they are looking at it right now and determining how long they want to take to retool it.

Rare is becoming to Microsoft what AOL is to Time Warner.
 
Dr_Cogent said:
WTF MS? You really fucked up here.

From everything I have seen, PD0 is a fucking travesty. And this is supposed to be their "killer" launch title. Someone needs to get fired.

Nintendo must be laughing their asses off. Someone actually bought Rare from them.

MS = Dumbasses (with regards to Rare purchase)
100% agreed. The Rare purchase is looking worse and worse. This PD0 fiasco is hilarious.

Kameo looks dropdead gorgeous tho.
 
Dont understand why they didnt just show the stuff from the Rare making of video, that stuff looked fine (maybe it wasnt in game, but that didnt stop them with anything else).
 
I don't want to hijack the thread but since it's 360 related and search doesn't work... Anyone have a link to some high res 360 pics? I know there was a thread with them when the MTV show happened but I can't find good pics like those at IGN.
 
Here's my guess....


Rare was taking the N64 approach to PD0. They showed a game that had innovation and fun gameplay. They let the graphics and the engine take the backseat and be the "side" story of the game since their focus was the gameplay.

What they didn't expect was people responding to the graphics the way they did.


Now while I do agree, I expect to see an overhaul of the graphics, I do not expect Rare to change engines. I expect re-designed characters that don't look like shit and also is more realistic and less cartoony.

That's what I'm expecting launch day.
 
They needed to put this thing in rehab given that even I figured I'd practice some masking and contributed to the wallguy thread just for the hell of it. But I'm NOT dumping on Rare as an entire entity. Kameo is looking beautiful, vibrant, and I'm even one of those who liked GBTG.

But the team working on PD0, damn, there appears to be an intervention needed...
 
Here's a reality check for everyone. If you're expecting Killzone 2 graphics out of PDZ, even if it's redesigned, it's not going to happen. The game will have cartoon graphics, because that's the style, and it won't look anything like Killzone or the other realistic shooters. I'm still looking forward to it but I'm not expecting any huge overhaul.
 
Last rumours over at MS France (and yes, it's RUMOURS so far) are that PDZ has been delayed until further notice. Hopefully it's true.
 
Blimblim said:
Last rumours over at MS France (and yes, it's RUMOURS so far) are that PDZ has been delayed until further notice. Hopefully it's true.
So that confirms it. Redesign forthcoming. Thanks for the heads up blim.
 
Second, Vice President Peter Moore, who introduced each of the major releases for this fall, actually introduced Perfect Dark Zero. The only problem was that right after he introduced it the video of Kameo: Elements of Power appeared in its place. Is this a purely technical mistake? Not likely. You don't make mistakes of this kind, mixing up a first-person shooter with a platformer. That's like mixing up Blinx 2 with Halo 2. Big mistake. So no, we think Microsoft pulled its video of Perfect Dark Zero and the reason is because the company doesn't think it looks good enough to show to the public.

Did somebody call??

blinx.jpg
 
Blimblim said:
Last rumours over at MS France (and yes, it's RUMOURS so far) are that PDZ has been delayed until further notice. Hopefully it's true.

PD0 for Xbox 720!

WOOOOOOOOOOOO!

*Shakes fist at RARE*
 
I actually think PD0 will end up being hawt, someday. Unfortunately, I think that someday will be in 2007.

MS should never have trusted Rare to deliver the X-Box 360 its killer app in absence of Halo. Would have been nice if Gears of War had been ready as a launch title.
 
The winner: Bungie. They must have some pretty serious sway over at MGS considering what they do for the console. PD0 should have been the titled rushed for the Xbox and Halo 2 should have been perfected for Xbox 360's launch IMO.
 
The End said:
I'm more curious about why the Halo3 teaser wasn't shown. Maybe it didn't measure up to Killzone2 either.

I doubt there is a Halo 3 teaser.

If PD0 really was MS' flagship game for 360 (sure seems that way) then theres no way they would want bungie dropping a teaser in there just to say "Yeah, PD0 is good, but halo 3 will be better".

As it turns out they could have used one.

And im sure if this delay rumour comes true, one will appear around november time.
 
I just don't understand how Microsoft didn't see this coming. One look at the game screams Xbox 1 graphics.

Sure, more characters on screen, and battling 50 people at a time does sound awesome, but if there was a game out for the PS2 that had 50 person FPS that had PSX graphics, it would still be insulted and taunted till my throat is soar.
 
How could MS look at those screens and not realize there would be a negative reaction to them.

PD was ahead of it's time, while PDZ doesn’t look like it’s keeping up with the times. Rare, a company that rarely releases a game without having to re-haul it first.
 
The End said:
I'm more curious about why the Halo3 teaser wasn't shown. Maybe it didn't measure up to Killzone2 either.


that was just another nighttrain "exclusive" piece of info.

so it not being there means nothing.
 
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