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Persona 5 delayed to April 4, JP voices available as free DLC at launch
- Thread starter Kenzodielocke
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I can't speak for other countries but over here dubs being mainly for kid's films and such is totally a thing. Anything meant to be for older audiences is expected to be watched subtitled as that is the preferred method. As a matter of fact, I remember back when I was a kid it was considered a bragging right among friends and schoolmates when we were finally able to follow along with the subtitles in movies once we learned how to read.
So I don't know, as someone who is used to and has always been able to take anything in no problem while reading subtitles all the "too lazy to read" complaints seem like nonsense to me.
None of the things he's posted thus far strike me as condescending though? In other countries dubs are considered as something meant for kids to be able to follow along while adults prefer watching subs. That's a statement of fact. How is it condescending, exactly?
So I don't know, as someone who is used to and has always been able to take anything in no problem while reading subtitles all the "too lazy to read" complaints seem like nonsense to me.
None of the things he's posted thus far strike me as condescending though? In other countries dubs are considered as something meant for kids to be able to follow along while adults prefer watching subs. That's a statement of fact. How is it condescending, exactly?
I still find it hard to believe hard to this day that you don't see a lot of the things you say as condescending.
I don't see how that's condescending really.
BRSxIgnition
Member
I genuinely wonder how they will handle the localization effort this time around, as from what I've heard, P5 is a different beast than past games in multiple ways.
The Broken Japanese/English conversations, the additional dubbing of originally ubdubbed lines, the inclusion of dual audio...
One has to wonder how they will handle it all.
Will the Japanese voice track also have newly recorded lines to match the content of the English Dub? Will they translate lines differently than in the past so they work with both tracks? What can they possibly do about the sections where characters use broken English/Japanese?
So many questions...
The Broken Japanese/English conversations, the additional dubbing of originally ubdubbed lines, the inclusion of dual audio...
One has to wonder how they will handle it all.
Will the Japanese voice track also have newly recorded lines to match the content of the English Dub? Will they translate lines differently than in the past so they work with both tracks? What can they possibly do about the sections where characters use broken English/Japanese?
So many questions...
I truthfully didn't read your comment, this was just based on the behavior of people I saw everywhere on the internet whenever someone asked for dual audio.
As for thread derailing, IMO bringing up a feature you want in the game in a thread about the game counts as discussing the game. And maybe I am biased but I saw way more derailing coming from those who couldn't control themselves and went into tirades about how everyone who ever mentioned wanting dual audio was a "weeb" or should "go play the import" or inventing reasons why listening to the Japanese voice track was objectively bad.
And finally IMO wherever conversation about this game took place dual audio coming up clearly expressed how much a portion of potential players wanted the feature.
Absolutely fucking savage tweet by the official Tales twitter acct.
https://twitter.com/TalesofU/status/799285139624886277
https://twitter.com/TalesofU/status/799285139624886277
Can confirm.
Even if there are T-rated movies that are dubbed, the dub sessions are usually populated with kids and their parents.
Shots fired
mrmickfran
Member
Come on Namco, that ain't right
Ya'll better than that
LOL And they try to play it off afterwards:
Shmuppers
Member
Oh my god...
They need to figure out a way to delay KH2.8 though.
SAVAGE
lol I wouldn't call this savage. It's just a little light hearted jeering
Yep, can confirm too.
Ragnar Blackmane
Member
Pretty much.
Also *something something Digimon*...
Movalpolos
Banned
What a disappointment
Looks like my prediction is coming true, and Tokyo Mirage Sessions (Wii U GOTY 2016) might end up being the better game in the end as I don't believe it suffered these constant delays like Persona 5, it was smooth sailing until release for TMS #FE.
Multiple delays are never a good sign.
Guessing this is sarcasm. It has to be.
It's pretty savage for Digimon fans.
lol, that's exactly what I was planning on doing actually.
Bandai Namco would probably prefer not having Berseria squished in between Persona 5 and FFXV anyway.
Yes. I can't find the music-only video on Youtube which is likely removed for copyright reason. This other video playing the DDSaga-esque battle theme is a late-game boss battle which is pretty much spoiler-free.
Nope it's definitely fucking brutal and cutting. Atlus is weeping.
Yup.
Which doesn't make any sense considering they're putting it up against another of their own JRPGs with Digimon New Order.
Two different audiences imo.
SunEatsMoon
Member
I see people counter with this quite often, but I find it a bit baffling. I've been watching subbed anime for about a decade so I find it extremely easy to understand the emotions, cadence, tone, subtleties they're trying to convey despite it not being a language I understand. We are capable of learning and adapting, you know. I think your point only holds weight if you're someone who has had minimal, or no exposure to Japanese VO. It's different than English, but it's not as if basic human emotions are drastically different in tone, and delivery just because they're speaking Japanese (or any language). Unless you have an inherent inability to pick up on vocal cues, or body language then it's a non-issue.
Just realized my foreseeable consoles purchases are all JRPGs. Not a bad time to be into the genre.
also emotion isn't everything. perhaps more important, the overall ambiance and mood is completely ruined when you change language.
YuriLowell
Member
They better include a Pro Mode upgrade.
At least 4K upscaling.
At least 4K upscaling.
MaximumSpider
Banned
I'll let them have this. Its been a while since the last good tales.
BossDarkseid
Member
4k downsampled and a 60fps mode would be sweet.
Ultimadrago
Member
Any information whether the Soundtrack CD coming with the Take Your Heart is the full soundtrack or a "Selects" (Piece of Crap)?
Pretty sure it's only a selection of the full soundtrack. Full soundtrack comes out on January 17th (3 discs).
Unknown Soldier
Member
There is nothing condescending about what he said.
Ultimadrago
Member
Ah well, stupid but expected I suppose.
cm osi
Member
most of the time the dub is bad and so the acting.
at least persona 5 will release before a western ps3 release of vesperia
Not that a Pro would be necessary, but upgrading a few textures here and there would be welcome.
... I don't know if I would call that savage. It seems more like they're breathing a sign of relief that JRPG-starved fans are going to have more of a reason to pick up their game at this stage since the delay puts them out further from being able to tap into that Persona goodness.
Regardless, I was going to get both games anyway. At least now I have more time to really enjoy ToB before Persona 5 comes out. I'm not going to complain when there are lots of games that I do want to play being spaced out a bit!
Mediking
Member
This is playful.... I am buying Tales of Besty.