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Nope, To answer the smartasedness I had no Idea sony was going to blow it with the price tag, I did expect that it would be a pain in the ass, to dev on due to the ps2. I also was a sucker for the fact that I never expected to see the 360 be as successful as it has been.......did not expect the wii to light fires under the asses of women, and just like everyone else, screamed holy shit at DQ9 going to the ds.

Sadly though, that does not kill the fact that alot of people had the expectations, or there would have been no upsets!!!

I'm not even sure what you're arguing about anymore. You've just admitted that the console generation is totally split this time, and Sony fucked up, and both the Wii and 360 have eaten into the PS3 userbase big time. With all this in mind, it totally kills the fact that anyone should have any expectations anymore. It's obvious by now that any game can and will come out on any console depending on what suits the best interests of the developer. There is no "loyalty" or "pattern" left. Monster Hunter started on the PS2, continued on to the PSP, was announced for the PS3, and STILL ended up on the Wii. And now it's selling like hot cakes on the Wii too. What does that tell you? It tells me that there are no more expectations, consumers will go where the games they want are, and they're not sitting around waiting for imaginary announcements that have not happened yet.

 

[Gravijah]

No but the idea for was at siggraph, and it's been mentioned many times that square dropped the N64 due to the cartridges.

I heard Nintendo dropped Square because they foresaw them releasing FFXIII on the 360 and well, you know how the Japanese are!

 

[KeioSquad2]

That's why you shouldn't expect shit.

Yea dude, cause I'm a cynic and all people like you are assholes.

 

[Prime crotch]

No but the idea for was at siggraph, and it's been mentioned many times that square dropped the N64 due to the cartridges.

Which does not mean that Final Fantasy VII was ever a N64 project, all it ammounted to was a tech demo with VI's characters.

 

[duckroll]

Yea dude, cause I'm a cynic and all people like you are assholes.

Did you just call us assholes?

 

[shintoki]

Yea dude, cause I'm a cynic and all people like you are assholes.

!!!!

 

[KeioSquad2]

I'm not even sure what you're arguing about anymore. You've just admitted that the console generation is totally split this time, and Sony fucked up, and both the Wii and 360 have eaten into the PS3 userbase big time. With all this in mind, it totally kills the fact that anyone should have any expectations anymore. It's obvious by now that any game can and will come out on any console depending on what suits the best interests of the developer. There is no "loyalty" or "pattern" left. Monster Hunter started on the PS2, continued on to the PSP, was announced for the PS3, and STILL ended up on the Wii. And now it's selling like hot cakes on the Wii too. What does that tell you? It tells me that there are no more expectations, consumers will go where the games they want are, and they're not sitting around waiting for imaginary announcements that have not happened yet.

No just that its wrong to think that people did not have certain expectations before this gen began.

That's all though, I'll shut up now as my point has been expressed numerous times.

 

[duckroll]

That's all though, I'll shut up now as my point has been expressed numerous times.

No, don't shut up, tell us more about these assholes please. I want to know.

 

[Gravijah]

Yea dude, cause I'm a cynic and all people like you are assholes.

I don't know what to say, Mr Insults.

 

[KeioSquad2]

Did you just call us assholes?

No Just saying that I'm not cynical.....

 

[duckroll]

No Just saying that I'm not cynical.....

I'm not sure how anyone can derive that meaning from what you actually said. Please explain further.

 

[Gravijah]

No Just saying that I'm not cynical.....

This is a forum, we take all things at face value here.

 

[KeioSquad2]

I'm not sure how anyone can derive that meaning from what you actually said. Please explain further.

All right, since you have your ban button ready. I was told I should not expect "shit" from your dubious friend. So I in return being the smartass I am, said Ok, then I'm a cynic, which are people who expect nothing, and people like you, "are a bunch of assholes" which is where "shit" comes from.

Now here's the BIG ONE, I'm not a cynic, and I like to believe certain things.......Shit just happens to be one of them.

 

[BlazingDarkness]

Well Atlus have ruled out PS2 completely, and we know they were hiring for PS360 development so that is pretty conclusive to me where the next Persona game will be. My general feelings about the future lineup;

PS2 - Nothing. The hardware is now outdated so they're probably aiming for something more technically impressive. (see Nippon Ichi's cross edge > trinity universe)As for sales, they can turn to handhelds.
PS360 - Persona 5/ Possible SMT numbered title
DS - SMT Strange Journey/ Possible Devil survivor sequel in the future
PSP - Persona 2 both game remakes/ Possible new Megaten spinoff much later in the future
Wii - Nothing. I expect them to have one or two HD titles on PS360 and the rest on handhelds. Wii is the middle ground and Atlus has no interest there (see PS2)

 

[duckroll]

All right, since you have your ban button ready. I was told I should not expect "shit" from your dubious friend. So I in return being the smartass I am, said Ok, then I'm a cynic, which are people who expect nothing, and people like you, "are a bunch of assholes" which is where "shit" comes from.

Now here's the BIG ONE, I'm not a cynic, and I like to believe certain things.......Shit just happens to be one of them.

I don't know, I'm not convinced. That's some very contrived wordplay here. I don't even think I understand how saying you shouldn't expect "shit" (in this case a term representing "anything") translates into the guy saying it being an "asshole" (which you claim represents the human anatomy commonly called the anus).

I also don't quite see how not expecting franchises which were on the PS2 to be automatically on the PS3 is being a "cynic" either, as opposed to a "realist", but I'm willing to let that slide because you don't seem to be very good at word comparisons at all. Still, I want to know the logic behind the asshole bit, because it's really contrived and I'm not buying it. Convince me!

 

[Crash Station]

Which is my point.



This again proves my point...whose side are you on anyway?

Your's? I may have misinterpreted what you were trying to say. Sorry about that.

The same asset argument does make sense, and considering Atlus isn't a huge company, P5 going to Wii could potentially rule out SMT games on the HD twins. However, this gen has been random as hell and no one can really predict what will happen. After all, Persona is a spinoff series and having a mainline SMT on PS360 doesn't mean Persona can't be on Wii. I don't know if it really count, but Atlus has the fanbase split with the handhelds with the Persona remake on PSP and many other SMT games on DS so doing the same with consoles wouldn't be that weird.

 

[Gravijah]

All right, since you have your ban button ready. I was told I should not expect "shit" from your dubious friend. So I in return being the smartass I am, said Ok, then I'm a cynic, which are people who expect nothing, and people like you, "are a bunch of assholes" which is where "shit" comes from.

Now here's the BIG ONE, I'm not a cynic, and I like to believe certain things.......Shit just happens to be one of them.

Hey, I'm not dubious.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

Well Atlus have ruled out PS2 completely, and we know they were hiring for PS360 development so that is pretty conclusive to me where the next Persona game will be. My general feelings about the future lineup;

PS2 - Nothing. The hardware is now outdated so they're probably aiming for something more technically impressive. (see Nippon Ichi's cross edge > trinity universe)As for sales, they can turn to handhelds.
PS360 - Persona 5/ Possible SMT numbered title
DS - SMT Strange Journey/ Possible Devil survivor sequel in the future
PSP - Persona 2 both game remakes/ Possible new Megaten spinoff much later in the future
Wii - Nothing. I expect them to have one or two HD titles on PS360 and the rest on handhelds. Wii is the middle ground and Atlus has no interest there (see PS2)

Good to see that the Trauma Center series counts for nothing. ;P

 

[KeioSquad2]

I don't know, I'm not convinced. That's some very contrived wordplay here. I don't even think I understand how saying you shouldn't expect "shit" (in this case a term representing "anything") translates into the guy saying it being an "asshole" (which you claim represents the human anatomy commonly called the anus).

I also don't quite see how not expecting franchises which were on the PS2 to be automatically on the PS3 is being a "cynic" either, as opposed to a "realist", but I'm willing to let that slide because you don't seem to be very good at word comparisons at all. Still, I want to know the logic behind the asshole bit, because it's really contrived and I'm not buying it. Convince me!

Anyway, your being a cynic if you can automagically derive that certain franchises will go to whatever..... Which makes my nievity stand out more........This gen!!

As for the asshole bit, take it as you will. You'd have to be in my head or Id have to be able to sit for an hour trying to explain, either way it's worthless.

 

[duckroll]

Good to see that the Trauma Center series counts for nothing. ;P

I'm pretty sure we're talking about megaten here. He's right either way though, Atlus Japan has no interest in the TC series, it sells sub-10k in Japan. It's pretty much a Atlus USA managed franchise now, developed in Japan.

 

[kafka rock opera]

Good to see that the Trauma Center series counts for nothing. ;P

Wasnt Baroque made by atlus as well? I know they brought it over to the US but i wasnt sure if atlus made it aswell.

 

[Volcynika]

Wasnt Baroque made by atlus as well? I know they brought it over to the US but i wasnt sure if atlus made it aswell.

Sting was behind that.

 

[duckroll]

Okay, and with that, I'll like to thank everyone for participating in this retarded and pointless thread, from which we have learned absolutely nothing about the platform of Persona 5, or even the existence of the game. There have been many shots fired, and many (different, off-topic) discussions made, and we must not forget to keep dear old Tabris within our memories.

Have fun and see you guys in the next exciting Persona 5 thread, hopefully coming at TGS. :lol