As Dantis sad earlier ppl simplify Chie too much and judge her on her first appearence in the game. But she really shines in s link romance. Not straight after that but with time,evening talk at shopping district, festival, ski trip and Valentine Day. She not as bro kind of girl as it seems, she very charming and her reactions when she embarrassed in 1 on 1 situation shows that well
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Persona Community Thread |OT3| Your thread title sucks, Yukiko.
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As Dantis sad earlier ppl simplify Chie too much and judge her on her first appearence in the game. But she really shines in s link romance. Not straight after that but with time,evening talk at shopping district, festival, ski trip and Valentine Day. She not as bro kind of girl as it seems, she very charming and her reactions when she embarrassed in 1 on 1 situation shows that well
I don't understand how Yukari or Junpei don't somehow qualify.
Junpei I get, but later he got one as well...
Yukari? How come she not have extraordinary circumstances.. If anything she got the bigger one.
Tiu Neo
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I think so, too. That's why her romance S. Link is one of my favorites, together with Naoto's. You get to see a side of them you don't really see, normally.
But yeah, she's still a bro, even with that. And that's what makes she cool.
I liked A Twist In The Myth.
Otherland is the song that got me into Blind Guardian.
Also, if you like Blind Guardian, you should listen to Persuader. They're like a really angry Blind Guardian. The singer sounds sooo much like Hansi that it's insane.
I liked some songs, but it's not as good as their older albums, for me.
Also, searching for more Persuader songs, too. Damn, it's been years since I discovered so many good bands in a short period of time.
Do you know Savage Circus? It's a band formed by Blind Guardian's ex-drummer, after he left in 2005. Persuader's singer voice was a bit familiar to me, and to my surprise... It's Jens Carlsson, that also sings for Savage Circus!
So is his bike.
I like how quickly it became very clear that he wasn't willing to do any legwork himself.
cj_iwakura
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If I had the time and patience I'd upload some comparisons of the EP/EPP OSTs. I notice that some tracks, like the Sky Museum Aflame, remove the creepy vocals.
cj_iwakura
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Here's the most drastic update I've noticed:
Map 1 PS1
Map 1 PSP
Note the amazing guitar at 0:42 in the remix. Not in the original. I love both versions, but the remix shines a lot here. This is one of my favorite tracks, since it's what defines Eternal Punishment's vibe. Optimism with an undercurrent of the mysterious.
I can't recall for the life of me which track added the saxophone. Maybe it was one of the special rearranges?
Bonus: EX Final Battle PSP
EX Final Battle PS1
Same vocals, PSP version adds more shredding.
Intense song either way.
Actually, on a relisten, the remix takes out some of the other sounds and replaces them with the guitar, like the bass beat(da da da dadada) and the synthesized bells.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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I think the Ken hate is probably the most insane aspect of the Persona fanbase. People just mad cause he got their brooding boy toy killed
Dude was only with you for like a dungeon or two. I gave no fucks about what's his face dying.
That scene is very cringe worthy to me, man its should've one of RPG rules that shouldn't to disobey that you not allowed (Major P3 Spoiler)
/semi-rant
Shinjiro S-Link in P3P is really great though, and one of Romance S-link that actually feel sweet.. mainly because the romance itself have little portion on the S-Link itself and more about Shinjiro himself..
They should write more romance S-Link with pattern like that.
to kill character on-screen unless the character impaled in heart or something, its silly to see death like that with we seeing they fighting all kind of monster
Shinjiro S-Link in P3P is really great though, and one of Romance S-link that actually feel sweet.. mainly because the romance itself have little portion on the S-Link itself and more about Shinjiro himself..
They should write more romance S-Link with pattern like that.
cj_iwakura
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I've always been morbidly curious if P3P has an Operation Dude Hunt.
Lord Scrambles
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I think the Ken hate is probably the most insane aspect of the Persona fanbase. People just mad cause he got their brooding boy toy killed
Q to the F to the motherfucking T
CrazyTank940
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California Potato Powers
rip in peas Teddie
I'd expect flanderization across the board in this game honestly. Not like that's a bad thing, non-canon fun crossover game and all, I personally don't mind.
and suddenly a great gust of wind is heard as Smedwicks rushes to the nearest store to buy all the manga
The robot voices crack me up every time lol
animaSerah
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As promised, here's the second wave of Persona Q iOS wallpapers:
Fuuka Yamagishi
Rise Kujikawa
And, in case you missed it the first time around, the complete set (so far) can be found here. Enjoy-- now, to get that Rise one on my phone...
Fuuka Yamagishi
Rise Kujikawa
And, in case you missed it the first time around, the complete set (so far) can be found here. Enjoy-- now, to get that Rise one on my phone...
insignia16
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As promised, here's the second wave of Persona Q iOS wallpapers:
Fuuka Yamagishi
And, in case you missed it the first time around, the complete set (so far) can be found here. Enjoy-- now, to get that Rise one on my phone...
This is great!! Fuuka looks even cuter than I had already thought! Totally using this, thanks!
So awesome. I was using the Maya, time to upgrade.As promised, here's the second wave of Persona Q iOS wallpapers:
Fuuka Yamagishi
Rise Kujikawa
And, in case you missed it the first time around, the complete set (so far) can be found here. Enjoy-- now, to get that Rise one on my phone...
More like downgrade.
All the dicks jello, eat them.
Extraordinary circumstances are not the same thing as extraordinary people. Chie wound up in 'extraordinary circumstances' too, as a matter of principle. The point I'm making is that Yukari and Junpei are both grounded characters with reasonably grounded personal issues and deal with them in reasonably grounded ways. Hell, both of them are distinctly out of their depth when it comes to all the crazy stuff happening around them.
YES. Definitely upgrading to Rise. Thanks!As promised, here's the second wave of Persona Q iOS wallpapers:
Fuuka Yamagishi
Rise Kujikawa
And, in case you missed it the first time around, the complete set (so far) can be found here. Enjoy-- now, to get that Rise one on my phone...
I think you missing my point entirely (its my fault for poor wording though)
Yukari and Junpei have biggest character arc in the game about their issue, every other Party member also have bit like that, they have their own major issue and being uneasy at some point.
Meanwhile Chie's issue got resolved pretty early, and not really have other circumstances hidden in her S-Link like other party member and remain as the only party member that stay with same wavelength throughout the game.. I guess that's what people dislike about her and that's perfectly valid but in same time its also valid point to see that as part of her role for establishing the dynamic early as we pretty much we completely know her as character at that point, I think that's also the reason why people could like her pretty fast.
I like Yosuke too. Not sure why he gets a lot of hate.
Yosuke is kind of a punk, but since I was pretty lousy and a lot of guys I knew were pretty lousy as teenagers, I can cut him a break.
I did the camping part, too. Haha, man it was like 4 am and I was laughing my ass off.
I waver back and forth between liking Yosuke and getting kinda ticked at him. Like he was a major brat during the camping thing. His
homophobia is what lead to Kanji rushing out of the tent and causing like, everything that happened that night.
was carrying around two bathing suits for the express purpose of forcing Chie and Yukiko into them
But I mean, I give Yosuke a lot of slack for his negative traits because he's a teenager and it's likely he'll grow out of some of the bigger ones.
buddha0991
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He's right though
Yes to all of this.
I honestly like most every character in P4. They've got a lot of charm and personality going for them. Unlike SMT4, where a significant portion of the main cast is overshadowed by Nozomi.
"Hello there, Mr. Samurai" indeed.
I think the problem I had with SMT4's characters, specifically Jonathon and Walter, was that
they go from being my allies to my mortal enemies off screen. Like, Jonathon makes a racist remark right before the final battle that makes no sense, because he'd never, ever been racist or classist or whatever prior to that point. Walter's even worse because they make an attempt at building some drama prior to that moment in the fight, but because Flynn has no personality at all, when Walter dies the game doesn't even really stop to play sad music about it. It's just like "Hey you just killed your bro" and Burroughs is like "CONGRATULATIONS ON COMPLETING THE QUEST, MASTER". The story could've worked, but the endgame was just so . . . flat.
Persona game is have very different approach for character than mainline SMT game, I think you shouldn't even compare them.
Persona character is very quirky and Mainline SMT game usually intentionally have dry and drab cast.
Junpei's a much better bro than Yosuke, but Yosuke is still great. He's a goof and pretty immature, but he's generally well-meaning. Count me as a Yosuke fan.
Ah, I see what you mean, sorry. I'd definitely agree, actually. There's an appeal to the constancy of Chie's character and outlook in the group dynamic, in any case - you could almost say she's the rock.
I didn't like Yosuke because he basically forced my character to do shit that my serious and collected character wouldn't do in any case. Aside of asking me favours after favours and making me to answer all his questions in class (come on dude, put some attention!),
At some times he looked needy, desperate and delusional and not even in his best moments he makes for it, aside of thinking his personal evolution was not that big at all. Kanji for example had some really, really stupid moments, but his personal evolution is great and at his best moments he really shines, I didn't feel the same way with Yosuke.
I would have loved that Kou or Daisuke were companions instead of Yosuke.
At some times he looked needy, desperate and delusional and not even in his best moments he makes for it, aside of thinking his personal evolution was not that big at all. Kanji for example had some really, really stupid moments, but his personal evolution is great and at his best moments he really shines, I didn't feel the same way with Yosuke.
I would have loved that Kou or Daisuke were companions instead of Yosuke.
Yosuke is full of complexes, and I think that's pretty great. He's a walking train wreck that tries to simultaneously be cool and do the right thing.
His arc is him owning up to his insecurities and his jealousy towards you. The neat thing about using tarots as characterizations is because you can start the characters in the reverse and show them trying to attain the true meaning of the card. Yosuke wants to be talented and loved, but struggles with both due to himself and his circumstances.
I think that while we over exaggerate the quality of the writing in Persona, its core strength is that the characters are often contradictory. Just due to having both shadows and tarot as themes, the characters have a bit of duality to them that makes them a little more fleshed out than just one or two tropes. One of the game's central themes is taking the good with the bad. I think it's funny because a lot of people here tend to focus on the negatives of these characters, when these characters were given a lot of negatives on purpose. Its when you get to know them that they become warm, interesting characters.
Also, I'm really happy that it sounds like we're going to get a decent amount of Lotus Juice in PQ's soundtrack. He had some fun stuff in P3. Missed him in P4 a bit.
His arc is him owning up to his insecurities and his jealousy towards you. The neat thing about using tarots as characterizations is because you can start the characters in the reverse and show them trying to attain the true meaning of the card. Yosuke wants to be talented and loved, but struggles with both due to himself and his circumstances.
I think that while we over exaggerate the quality of the writing in Persona, its core strength is that the characters are often contradictory. Just due to having both shadows and tarot as themes, the characters have a bit of duality to them that makes them a little more fleshed out than just one or two tropes. One of the game's central themes is taking the good with the bad. I think it's funny because a lot of people here tend to focus on the negatives of these characters, when these characters were given a lot of negatives on purpose. Its when you get to know them that they become warm, interesting characters.
Also, I'm really happy that it sounds like we're going to get a decent amount of Lotus Juice in PQ's soundtrack. He had some fun stuff in P3. Missed him in P4 a bit.
buddha0991
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the best character is the one you dislike the worst character is the one you like
cj_iwakura
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buddha0991
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It still kills me inside that Persona 1 and 2 dont even have a single mention or reference on Persona Channel
I'm not sure why, seeing as it makes perfect sense.
buddha0991
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BECAUSE THEY'RE BAD GAMES HAHAHAHAHA
buddha0991
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...Actually not what I thought you were gonna say
Yeah. I can respect Hashino's desire to not mess with their continuity since they're not his games, but surely they at least deserve a mention as part of the history of the series?
That's why I said it.
We both know the real reason. It's because they're not Lord Hashino's games.
Also, on the Chie discussion, she's the only lady whose romance path I've never followed in P4. Not sure what that shows, but it's probably something.
buddha0991
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That's why I said it.
We both know the real reason. It's because they're not Lord Hashino's games.
Also, on the Chie discussion, she's the only lady whose romance path I've never followed in P4. Not sure what that shows, but it's probably something.
At least have a fucking legacy section. "Hey, here are these games that we didnt have much of a hand in, But if these guys didnt make these games, we wouldn't be where we are today! Thanks you guys for making them and we will continue your legacy with pride!"
That's obviously not the point of the Persona Channel.
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