Martylepiaf
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Yeah, I hate this trope
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Yeah, I hate this trope
cj_iwakura
Member
Pretty sure Elizabeth is the one they sexualize and Margaret is the elegant one but that's just me.
Also I found the Japanese versions of Persona 2, Persona 1, and Persona 3 at book off. Didn't get them, but it was cool to see.
I hope it's Anne and we get a bunch of moments where she fantasizes/spies on the guys while they're bathing
Psyche, that trope is garbage either way
A Dead Diehard
Member
Ryuji. That's just how these things roll.
Yes.
So if that's their attempt to be subversive, does this mean she can cook? Or are they sticking with that too cause it's a series staple now?
cj_iwakura
Member
It is, but a female variation would at least be different.
Mediking
Member
Wait a sec... why do some of you hate the pervert trope? What's wrong with a perv in P5? It'd be nice comedic value and it would be hilarious to see him/her say stuff at times. I trust Atlus to actually give that person amazing character development too. You might find the perv character annoying in the beginning but then you find out he/she is loyal and is going through heavy problems so being a perv is a way to cope with it.
Ludger Kresnik
Member
It's annoying and played out and risks taking over their entire character. (read: Teddie, who is fucking awful) I'm sure they can stand not having someone hit on anything with a vagina just this once.
I don't know about you, but sex jokes and the stuff I'm used to from Teddie isn't what I consider funny in any way. If anything, it makes me want to bash that character's head in. There are much better ways to write comedy than that.
DryEyeRelief
Member
In Arena and its sequel they display everyone's tarot card when you highlight them in character select. Aigis is card is still "The Fool", so she still has it.
Martylepiaf
Member
I don't find it funny at all, it just makes me want to hit the character most of the time.
Mediking
Member
So you guys hated Ms. Kashiwagi then??? I LOVED how pervy and seductive she was!
Martylepiaf
Member
I'm actually surprised there is someone who like her haha
I actually neither like nor dislike Kashiwagi.
Ludger Kresnik
Member
I didn't mind Kashiwagi, but I often forget she exists.
Funyarinpa
Member
Small glob of hormones reporting in. I loved Teddie and Kashiwagi, I found them fucking hilarious. I do think it requires a certain immature brand of humor, though.
I'd be damn fine with a pervy character (preferably female on the sole reason I find that more attractive :F) but not having one is also fine.
This is Persona after all, they can't fuck it up
I'd be damn fine with a pervy character (preferably female on the sole reason I find that more attractive :F) but not having one is also fine.
This is Persona after all, they can't fuck it up
Green Mamba
Member
Wouldn't you rather Persona write interesting new characters instead of sticking to established "roles?"
cj_iwakura
Member
You saw how badly Persona 2 PSP bombed, right? Sends a clear message.
Eh, you could argue that P2P's characters aren't really new. I also think that the failure of those games has at least something to do with the outdated gameplay and graphics which don't resemble modern Persona games at all.
Mediking
Member
Unless Ryuji turns out to be some blood-thirsty guy... he's already destined to be a Junpei 3.0
cj_iwakura
Member
Persona 1 sold great. It's clearly because Japanese players don't want to play as adults.
So you guys hated Ms. Kashiwagi then??? I LOVED how pervy and seductive she was!
Dafuq?! Lol I thought everyone hated her with a passion. A passion as great as Teddie's love
Ludger Kresnik
Member
Wouldn't that be Brown 5.0?
Aadrian1234
Banned
So you guys hated Ms. Kashiwagi then??? I LOVED how pervy and seductive she was!
I hated Kashiwagi
Mediking
Member
Hahah I didn't get any sexual vibes from Elizabeth but Margaret..... She's the one I ship Yu with. Heh
A Dead Diehard
Member
Kashiwagi was horrible in vanilla, but her missions in Golden did a lot for her.
Makes me wonder if the same result could've been had for Hanako.
Makes me wonder if the same result could've been had for Hanako.
It's just an incredibly basic and played out trope at this point. I don't need or want to see it in Persona when I can watch pretty much any anime™ to experience it. Why does Ryuuji need to be the rough perv who's loyal when it's already been done before? Why do we need moments like this when it's already been done before?
I just don't get how anyone could look forward to something they've seen a thousand times before.
This, basically.
However, I don't really think P4's characters line up with 3's, aside from yosuke/junpei. The thing is that everything has been written at some point, so fans will inevitably peg everyone to a trope.
Funyarinpa
Member
If we're talking attendants nobody, NOBODY gets anywhere near to Theodore and I'm saying this as someone who thinks Margaret's the most attractive character in the series right after Shinjiro and Rise
but yeah, no tropes whatsoever is best
cj_iwakura
Member
Hint:
which one straight up goes all the way with the MC?
Ludger Kresnik
Member
This is absolute truth.
Mediking
Member
?!?!?!?!??!?! AND WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN? DID I FORGET THIS? DID THIS HAPPEN IN PERSONA 3 FES???? LINK ME, PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My boy, Minato, lost his virginity to ELIZABETH?!?!?
Scrooge McDuck
Member
Because it's oftentimes treated as silly eccentricity to be tolerated instead of an awful trait to be snubbed. And it sends a warped message that demeaning other people is a-okay as long as you're loyal or are using it as a coping mechanism.
That, aside from the whole it's-lame-and-stale thing.
cj_iwakura
Member
Must be cold in that cave.
Yes, in FES.
"I am not blind to the significance of calling upon a man in his room."
Mediking
Member
Must be cold in that cave."I am not blind to the significance of calling upon a man in his room."
Hahahhah oh yeah... I forgot that.... Minato is truly the
Harem
A Dead Diehard
Member
Must be cold in that cave."I am not blind to the significance of calling upon a man in his room."
And now I feel better about missing out on her requests.
cj_iwakura
Member
She's the ultimate adversary in more ways than one.
Funyarinpa
Member
What do you mean by that?
cj_iwakura
Member
Stop reminding me, makes the wait worse.
Funyarinpa
Member
Mediking
Member
I wonder why Atlus even marketed the P5 like that..... I thought the main cast were thieves because they wanted to be. They aren't slaves. Unless..... unless.... unless....
It's pretty straightforward. They're unsatisfied with their livesslaves to their fate and to societyand with their power and devotion, they seek emancipation.
Mediking
Member
They're unsatisfied because they're in high school...???? The main guy literally just got there and just got into high school. What is he going through that makes him think he's a slave to fate and to society? People who think they are slaves to fate and society usually are somewhat older and are wise in the head because of their experiences. Unless he has some huge emotional baggage from his past.... what is HE a slave to????
Read Hashino's interviews. This is literally the entire premise of Persona 5.
Aadrian1234
Banned
I can tell you right now from personal experience, that you can feel this way even in high-school. And is why i think i'll really like P5
Yep.