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Persona Community Thread |OT9| SPOILER TAGS OR DIE
- Thread starter Dantis
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Do Middle Schoolers count?
But for serious, I think you're on entirely the wrong mindset here. Whether or not the attention is positive or negative the important thing is the othering that occurs as a result of her visibly mixed ancestry. I can see it going a number of ways. Maybe Anne was 'special' when she first arrived but that bred jealousy. Maybe people stay away from her because they don't want to be associated with the nail that sticks out.
I just completely don't see it as contrived as someone with experience in the Japanese schooling system albeit at a different tier of education.
I mean, I worked with great kids generally speaking and there was still levels of bullying going on, and that was the stuff that I as someone who is only beginner-intermediate proficient could see. What about the more subtle stuff? Anne isn't going to suffer from me-talk-like-katakana-foreigner or whatever, but high school drama takes so many forms I simply don't think it's inconceivable that she'd feel ostrasized and lonely.
I don't want you to get the wrong idea. I think probably a foreign transfer student into a Japanese high school, if they were fluent enough, could get along fine in most circumstances. But I don't think it's contrived that a person who is visibly of foreign origin could be excluded socially, or even bullied.
I don't want you to get the wrong idea. I think probably a foreign transfer student into a Japanese high school, if they were fluent enough, could get along fine in most circumstances. But I don't think it's contrived that a person who is visibly of foreign origin could be excluded socially, or even bullied.
Aadrian1234
Banned
I can imagine people would be frustrated, and for good reason. It's already going to be hard to avoid spoilers once they start spreading over the next month
Using it differently than it's intended is confusing when everyone else here is using it as intended because there are actual spoilers
To frame the Anne issue another way: imagine a Japanese girl transferring into a very white high school in America and being assumed to be great at math, or seen as exotically beautiful, or fetishized in any of the myriad creepy ways Asian women are fetishized. Even "positive" racism is still racism.
Anymore than that? That particular one would be more of a gameplay spoiler to me. If I already know there is one a name for it isn't gonna change much.
I'm guessing there might be one for a velvet room attendant fight as well so I wouldn't count that either.
Sorry for all the questions!
It also lists the dungeon names.
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CrimsonFist
Member
If you avoid the hidden achievements, which some sites should filter out by default, there's only one that I'd consider a spoiler, and it's not story related.
Personacentral.com has a list without the hidden trophies. There are no story spoilers at all.
Funyarinpa
Member
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I just beat P2: Innocent Sin.
I'm glad I played this because I really like the cast and story. The characters looked way better in the ending lol especially Michel.
I'm pretty excited to start EP now. Does anyone have tips for it?
Try don't to use Estoma so much. There is a moment where the game really peaks at difficulty and not decrease. I played with my mindset the same way how I played IS. It was bad
The good thing of this is EP battle system is really fun. Kinda weird to say but between the battle system from EP PS1 and IS PSP (which is slightly worse than the original) I prefer the former. The EP PSP battle system looks really amazing and it's faster, but sadly I will wait to play the port until the fantranslation is out.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
thank fuck for the trails series. No other game wouldve work for holding me over until february. Even though i will have cold steel 2 complete possibly this weekend.
I still wont be playing P5 until 2/26 at the earliest...
I still wont be playing P5 until 2/26 at the earliest...
The full list of congratulators from yesterday's stream in order of appearance:
- Takemaru Abiko, novelist (Ningyou series, Banshee's Last Cry)
- Hiroyuki Kobayashi, Capcom (Sengoku Basara, Dragon's Dogma)
- Yosuke Saitou, Square Enix (Dragon Quest X, NieR Gestalt/Replicant)
- Mitsuki Tsujimura, novelist (Kagi no nai Yume wo miru)
- Teita, illustrator (Norn9, Juuza Engi series)
- Yoko Nihonbashi, mangaka (G Senjou Heaven's Door, Shoujo Fight)
- Seiji Mizushima, anime director (Mobile Suit Gundam 00, Expelled from Paradise)
- Yoko Taro, game director (NieR, Drakengard series)
- Arco Wada, illustrator (Fate/EXTRA series)
- Takemaru Abiko, novelist (Ningyou series, Banshee's Last Cry)
- Hiroyuki Kobayashi, Capcom (Sengoku Basara, Dragon's Dogma)
- Yosuke Saitou, Square Enix (Dragon Quest X, NieR Gestalt/Replicant)
- Mitsuki Tsujimura, novelist (Kagi no nai Yume wo miru)
- Teita, illustrator (Norn9, Juuza Engi series)
- Yoko Nihonbashi, mangaka (G Senjou Heaven's Door, Shoujo Fight)
- Seiji Mizushima, anime director (Mobile Suit Gundam 00, Expelled from Paradise)
- Yoko Taro, game director (NieR, Drakengard series)
- Arco Wada, illustrator (Fate/EXTRA series)
ShadowSoldier89
Member
TiTS was why I jumped in on ToCS. I fucking love ToCS, but TiTS is even better, though not by much
Ludger Kresnik
Member
I tried my hardest to like Trails of Cold Steel but everything about that game seemed specifically designed to turn me off. I have Sky FC on Steam that I haven't tried yet tho, maybe I'll somehow have better luck with that.
The wait for P5 itself doesn't seem that daunting since what's another 5 months to the 7 years since I first played P4. I have an import copy on the way but I'm unsure if I feel up to playing the whole thing in Japanese. shrugs
The wait for P5 itself doesn't seem that daunting since what's another 5 months to the 7 years since I first played P4. I have an import copy on the way but I'm unsure if I feel up to playing the whole thing in Japanese. shrugs
Mediking
Member
I think it's about time I played Persona 1 and 2.
I will be playing SMT IV: Apocalypse and Dragon Quest VII, so the wait for me is not that bad. Maybe I will end buying a PS3 as a Christmas present to me, I really want to play Trails of Cold Steel 1 & 2, even if I now it would better to wait just a little more to Trails in the Sky the 3rd.
Decisions~~
Decisions~~
ShadowSoldier89
Member
you might as well play them, I find missing out on Ao and Zero first to be worse, but these games stand on their own just fine, and I'm still looking forward to playing the 3rd next year
Mediking
Member
The only way I'll play SMTIV:A if the characters are actually likeable this time. I can deal with a bad map. I can deal with difficulty spikes. But I won't deal with a Jonathon or Walter clone. They were both so bland. Isabeau was well..... alright.
StrikeFirst117
Banned
Well been a while since I posted, looks like I forgot to cancel my order from Amazon Japan, got a 20th Anniversary persona 5 here now welp guess I'm playing it then.
I'll also get the localised version when it comes out.
I'll also get the localised version when it comes out.
Mediking
Member
This is the best "welp" situation I ever read. Enjoy it!
atlusprime
Atlus PR
Pro-tip: SMTIVA reviews are out today!
Mediking
Member
Come on, man. You already know I'm gonna be supporting the game regardless of reviews. Lol
StrikeFirst117
Banned
Trust me I was shocked as hell, though come to think of it I think this happened with Persona 4 Ultra Suplex Hold.
Mediking
Member
Hahahahaha awesome. So do you know Japanese well?
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Apparently there are lines for this game in Japan
StrikeFirst117
Banned
A bit, not too good though I guess I'll be literally blind at points lol.
Mediking
Member
Apparently there are lines for this game in Japan
Good!!!!
Hahaha perfect. Make sure to post your inevitable positive impressions of the game!
StrikeFirst117
Banned
Yep definitely, got a half day at work tmoz, so fuck yes.
I like the idea of having a completely different atmosphere from Persona 4, which was pretty light-hearted and laid-back. Everyone was so durn helpful there, so it'll be nice to have a different set of interactions.
I remember him saying he wanted to play Undertale back then but couldn't due to the lack of a japanese translation, wonder if he ever got around to it.
It's interesting to read his perspective on the game, and seeing how most people are saying this game is darker than the previous (2) Persona games then it must be right up his alley.
It's also the second time Square or someone directly related to them has acknowledged Persona 5 as a noteworthy competitor to their own products so that's neat.
EDIT: Also, there are a few reviews out for Apocalypse already. Surprised there's no review thread for it yet.
Ludger Kresnik
Member
I love this man.
the_sun_king
Member
I'm currently (finally) playing through Yakuza 5. It's no urban fantasy picaresque tale starring high school students, but it's set in a contemporary environment across multiple cities so I'm getting my vicarious digital experience of Japan there. This and a couple of other games coming out before February 14 are what'll tide me over (I ultimately decided against importing a couple weeks ago). Oh, and the OST.
Otherwise, I have to put P5 out of sight, out of mind. I only get bummed out when I dwell on it for the time being. It's bitter sweet how its Japanese release is such an event while its release next year in every other territory will barely register a blip on the radar.
Otherwise, I have to put P5 out of sight, out of mind. I only get bummed out when I dwell on it for the time being. It's bitter sweet how its Japanese release is such an event while its release next year in every other territory will barely register a blip on the radar.
Same here. He writes unique stories and I can't wait to see what he'll do in NieR Automata.
I remember him saying he wanted to play Undertale back then but couldn't due to the lack of a japanese translation, wonder if he ever got around to it.
It's interesting to read his perspective on the game, and seeing how most people are saying this game is darker than the previous (2) Persona games then it must be right up his alley.
It's also the second time Square or someone directly related to them has acknowledged Persona 5 as a noteworthy competitor to their own products so that's neat.
It's actually the third time. There was also a message by Yosuke Saito of Dragon Quest X fame:
So, uh... Yeah, P5 turned into a big deal.
How far you're get to, if you don't mind answering? And if you say "I didn't get past the prologue" then you're in for the ass beating of your life!
Tinfoilhatsron
Banned
I love when developers comment on each other's games! There's always new insights to be learned,
Pretty cool that the city is legitimately dark. And yes, the Shibuya subway system is so confusing. There is no shame in asking for help there, lol.Also makes me feel good about supporting Nier:A when it comes out.
Hot damn I didn't know about that one.
There's also the collaboration with Monster Hunter so in a way even Capcom's acknowledging Persona is a big deal. Sega obviously also respects it and Atlus in general a lot considering how they specifically mentioned them when they said they were aiming to be better and please their fans.
I wonder when the transition from "fairly niche franchise with loyal fanbase" to "arguably third most important JRPG franchise sans monster collecting multimedia affairs" happened. I suspect it started somewhere between the anime adaptation and P4 Arena. P5's first trailer being as good as it was probably sealed the deal.
I will refrain from saying persona is big until I see some sales numbers.
Japanese numbers tend to be unpredictable