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[CrazyTank940]

Just did the quiz, got a 92% match with Tower

The Tower 92%
The High Priestess 75%
The Hermit 67%
The Fool 67%
The Devil 67%
The Lovers 67%
The Moon 67%
The Empress 67%
The Emperor 67%
Death 58%
The Star 58%
Justice 50%
Strength 42%
The Hanging Dragon 42%

 

[GreatMightySymp]

High Priestess, although I'm not really that superstitious. Rest of the stuff matches up alright, though.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

The Moon

Divinatory Meaning: Completion, Fulfillment. The end of a major cycle. The world of dreams. Reverse Meaning: Holding back reality by living in a dream world. You have a keen sense of people and are able to identify power where others are oblivious. You are drawn toward celestial bodies and draw strength from them. Others find you intriguing, not being able to put their finger on what it is about you that they cannot resist.

Nope. Though that reverse meaning's pretty accurate.

 

[SloaneRisette]

Honestly, the reverse Hermit is pretty accurate to me at times...

 

[FluxWaveZ]

Honestly, the reverse Hermit is pretty accurate to me at times...

The reverse Hermit is accurate to me at all times. It's pretty neat, though it's unfortunate no party member in the series has had that arcana yet.

 

[TWILT]

I got...

Death
Divinatory Meaning: The clearing away of negative conditions in order to make way for new, more positive influences. Reverse Meaning: Not being able to let go. You have an uncanny ability to just let things go…or at least you have convinced others of this. You want to give people the benefit of the doubt, but you have been hurt and struggle doing so. Focus on coming to terms with those specific past trials that you hold so close to your soul.

I also got a tie with Moon. *shrugs*

 

[SloaneRisette]

The reverse Hermit is accurate to me at all times. It's pretty neat, though it's unfortunate no party member in the series has had that arcana yet.

In Persona 5 the Navigator should be of the Reversed Hermit and just spend all their time navigating from their room while posting on GAF lying in bed.

 

[TurnipFritters]

i'm the "devil"

 

[we.are.the.armada]

Could be accurate, thanks for sharing guys. Here's what it said I am:

"You Scored as The Emperor

Divinatory Meaning: The Struggle for personal independence. Reverse Meaning: Unable to receive from others. You are very independent. You feel awkward asking for assistance and don’t like accepting help from others. It is important to you to achieve those things that you’ve set your sights on, but often are not sure how to accomplish them."

Hey isn't Kanji an Emperor? I guess that I can relate to that guy. I was somewhat of a bully growing up, it was always easier to intimidate others than be their friend. I love cute shit, but I can't embrace that, not yet anyway.

 

[jello44]

I got "Hanging Dragon" which I suppose is Hanged Man?


I dunno, reverse Hermit sounds way more like me.

Though I suppose this fits too.

Reverse Meaning: Seeing the world as if it were upside down

Hey isn't Kanji an Emperor? I guess that I can relate to that guy. I was somewhat of a bully growing up, it was always easier to intimidate others than be their friend. I love cute shit, but I can't embrace that, not yet anyway.

Yes and embrace the kawaii~ :3

 

[Omikaru]

Despite getting Hermit, I think I'm probably Reverse Hermit too.

 

[Young Magus]

You Scored as The Moon
Divinatory Meaning: Completion, Fulfillment. The end of a major cycle. The world of dreams. Reverse Meaning: Holding back reality by living in a dream world. You have a keen sense of people and are able to identify power where others are oblivious. You are drawn toward celestial bodies and draw strength from them. Others find you intriguing, not being able to put their finger on what it is about you that they cannot resist.


The Emperor
92%
The Empress
92%
Death
92%
The Moon
92%
The Tower
83%
The Hanging Dragon
58%
Justice
58%
The Hermit
58%
The High Priestess
50%
The Devil
50%
The Fool
50%
The Lovers
50%
The Star
42%
Strength
8%
... Interesting

 

[SloaneRisette]

Could be accurate, thanks for sharing guys. Here's what it said I am:

"You Scored as The Emperor

Divinatory Meaning: The Struggle for personal independence. Reverse Meaning: Unable to receive from others. You are very independent. You feel awkward asking for assistance and don’t like accepting help from others. It is important to you to achieve those things that you’ve set your sights on, but often are not sure how to accomplish them."

Hey isn't Kanji an Emperor? I guess that I can relate to that guy. I was somewhat of a bully growing up, it was always easier to intimidate others than be their friend. I love cute shit, but I can't embrace that, not yet anyway.

That sounds incredibly accurate to me, at least in school and work affairs.

Though I think the sheer solidarity from the Hermit/Reversed Hermit fit me more, more than likely.

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I'll never be a party member with this dumb Arcana

 

[Uncle AJ]

I got Empress.

 

[Trigger]

That sounds incredibly accurate to me, at least in school and work affairs.

Though I think the sheer solidarity from the Hermit/Reversed Hermit fit me more, more than likely.

Spoiler

I'll never be a party member with this dumb Arcana

You'll be a boss with pretty cool music tho!

 

[SloaneRisette]

You'll be a boss with pretty cool music tho!

I don't wanna fight you guys though

 

[Ties]

The Lovers
100%
The Tower
92%
The Emperor
92%
The Fool
92%
The High Priestess
83%
The Star
83%
Strength
83%
The Empress
75%
Death
75%
The Moon
75%
Justice
67%
The Devil
50%
The Hermit
50%
The Hanging Dragon
33%

death.

And I finally bought P4A the other day and playing through the Story Mode makes me a bit nostalgic. I was about to purchase a Vita just so I can run through P4G with the added story elements again! I find it a bit odd how they were essentially setting up Persona 5, or at least a sequel to the P3 and P4 universe, with P4A though. So the main protagonist is going to be

Spoiler

Elizabeth?

next time around?

 

[Dantis]

Almost certainly not. Considering everything that Persona has been moving towards, that wouldn't fit.

More likely a spinoff.

 

[Trigger]

I wouldn't be surprised if that's just a potential lead in to a P4A sequel.

 

[Noi]

Went back to P4A today to finish off some story routes I hadn't done since I beat Golden yesterday.

Yukiko's Gag ending...

 

[Ties]

I'd be disappointed if it was just to set up a P4A sequel.

I always thought it would be really interesting to delve into the relationships of all the Velvet Room attendants, where they originated, etc. But I wouldn't mind another P4A game, the combat is fantastic, one of my favorite fighters. *. * It feels like everything I've wanted from Arcana Heart and Blazblue merged into this perfect title; and the online is great too! I'd like Margaret and more of the P3 cast to be playable in the eventual sequel though, and maybe even Marie?

 

[Squire]

Hard-boiled Narukami!

Oh wow, this is dxcellent! You have to color this!

I wouldn't be surprised if that's just a potential lead in to a P4A sequel.

P4A's totally gettin' a sequel.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

P4A's totally gettin' a sequel.

Most likely, but it'll be a while until then...

On a completely unrelated note, I wonder if a game focused around Social Links would work. Not just in a dating themed visual novel or something similarly simplistic, but in a way that took the S. Link formula and fleshed it out to make an entire game function around social dynamics. That seems to be exactly what Cherry Tree High Comedy Club tried to do, but the poor writing of the characters and their relationships held it back, among other things.

 

[SloaneRisette]

Most likely, but it'll be a while until then...

On a completely unrelated note, I wonder if a game focused around Social Links would work. Not just in a dating themed visual novel or something similarly simplistic, but in a way that took the S. Link formula and fleshed it out to make an entire game function around social dynamics. That seems to be exactly what Cherry Tree High Comedy Club tried to do, but the poor writing of the characters and their relationships held it back, among other things.

I bought that game after watching the Quick Look from Giant Bomb but haven't played it yet.

I don't know if I ever will.

But I do have plans for a game I'll eventually be making that'll take some of the S. Link stuff into account, at least in the way of fleshing it out more.

 

[Dantis]

Oh wow, this is dxcellent! You have to color this!



P4A's totally gettin' a sequel.

Thanks!

And yeah, a P4A sequel is also a possibility. Whichever it is, I don't think it will be P5 that that particular plotline relates to. I feel like it would go against the direction in a lot of ways. Even things like the character design, because Soejima seems to be placing more and more emphasis on stylishness as time goes on.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

Thanks!

And yeah, a P4A sequel is also a possibility. Whichever it is, I don't think it will be P5 that that particular plotline relates to. I feel like it would go against the direction in a lot of ways. Even things like the character design, because Soejima seems to be placing more and more emphasis on stylishness as time goes on.

Hm... well, we're all expecting a Persona 5 release before an eventual Persona 4 Arena 2, right? Given the fact that Atlus practically established brands with "Persona 3" and "Persona 4" with a lot of different products and media relating to those two games, it's safe to say that the same will occur with Persona 5. If that's the case, then wouldn't it be weird for the sequel to the fighting game to not have the new big thing—Persona 5—significantly involved in the story?

 

[SloaneRisette]

Thanks!

And yeah, a P4A sequel is also a possibility. Whichever it is, I don't think it will be P5 that that particular plotline relates to. I feel like it would go against the direction in a lot of ways. Even things like the character design, because Soejima seems to be placing more and more emphasis on stylishness as time goes on.

The main reason I want a P4A sequel is just for more characters. I feel like no Junpei was a missed opportunity.

 

[Dantis]

Hm... well, we're all expecting a Persona 5 release before an eventual Persona 4 Arena 2, right? Given the fact that Atlus practically established brands with "Persona 3" and "Persona 4" with a lot of different products and media relating to those two games, it's safe to say that the same will occur with Persona 5. If that's the case, then wouldn't it be weird for the sequel to the fighting game to not have the new big thing—Persona 5—significantly involved in the story?

I'm not sure I follow what you mean?

 

[FluxWaveZ]

I'm not sure I follow what you mean?

I guess I'm assuming that the plotline that P4A established would be pursued in P4A2, so when you mentioned that you don't think the aforementioned plotline would relate to P5 I thought that would be odd since Persona 5 would be the "main" Persona game at the point of P4A2's release and that they would essentially have to ignore P5's popularity so that P4A2 did not have any implications with that story.

Hopefully that's clearer, heh.

I think he's trying to articulate that since Persona 3 and 4 were built up as interconnected games, then he's expecting that the aforementioned two will have a huge role in Persona 5's plot.

Ah, no! Haha, I totally didn't mean that, because I really don't want much of a P3 and P4 presence in the Persona 5 RPG other than minor references and cameos like the previous games handled it. I was really just talking about the potential fighting game sequel.

 

[Ties]

I'm not sure I follow what you mean?

I think he's trying to articulate that since Persona 3 and 4 were built up as interconnected games, then he's expecting that the aforementioned two will have a huge role in Persona 5's plot.

I don't want that, honestly. I want Persona 5 to take place in an entirely new universe separate from Persona 3 and 4. The fighting game off-shoot will suffice for the continual development of that plotline and its characters.

Edit:

Yeah, I'd feel a bit iffy with Persona 5 characters making a canon appearance in P4A2.

 

[Dantis]

I guess I'm assuming that the plotline that P4A established would be pursued in P4A2, so when you mentioned that you don't think the aforementioned plotline would relate to P5 I thought that would be odd since Persona 5 would be the "main" Persona game at the point of P4A2's release and that they would essentially have to ignore P5's popularity so that P4A2 did not have any implications with that story.

Hopefully that's clearer, heh.

This is absolutely what I'm assuming they'll do.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

This is absolutely what I'm assuming they'll do.

Wouldn't that mean there'd be no P5 characters in P4A2? I don't know if they could avoid capitalizing on P5's popularity... Then again, guess they could just base the P4A series on everything Persona 4 and prior and it'd do just fine.

In any case, we're just discussing hypotheticals on hypotheticals at this point. Guess all that really matters is that we're just all interested in seeing what they do with P4A's cliffhangers, whenever that happens...

 

[Ties]

Wouldn't that mean there'd be no P5 characters in P4A2? I don't know if they could avoid capitalizing on P5's popularity... Then again, guess they could just base the P4A series on everything Persona 4 and prior and it'd do just fine.

In any case, we're just discussing hypotheticals on hypotheticals at this point. Guess all that really matters is that we're just all interested in seeing what they do with P4A's cliffhangers, whenever that happens...

I highly doubt they would exclude Persona 5 characters from the upcoming game. Just make their appearance non-canon, and exclude them from the canon plotline that the fighters are currently following. I could see Atlus giving them joke arcs similar to the ones in Blazblue's narratives. It could work!

I'm more interested in them elaborating on the Shadow Operatives organization, if anything. Just how dense is the Persona user population in the world?

 

[Dantis]

Wouldn't that mean there'd be no P5 characters in P4A2? I don't know if they could avoid capitalizing on P5's popularity... Then again, guess they could just base the P4A series on everything Persona 4 and prior and it'd do just fine.

In any case, we're just discussing hypotheticals on hypotheticals at this point. Guess all that really matters is that we're just all interested in seeing what they do with P4A's cliffhangers, whenever that happens...

But surely P4A will be set after P4A, whereas P5 will be set a few years in the future?

 

[FluxWaveZ]

I highly doubt they would exclude Persona 5 characters from the upcoming game. Just make their appearance non-canon, and exclude them from the canon plotline that the fighters are currently following. I could see Atlus giving them joke arcs similar to the ones in Blazblue's narratives. It could work!

I'm more interested in them elaborating on the Shadow Operatives organization, if anything. Just how dense is the Persona user population in the world?

Sure, they could just throw canon out the window and go crazy with character inclusions and such, but I can't see that happening given how much emphasis they were putting on P4A being a canon sequel to P4.

Also, Persona 2 had Persona users everywhere and some dude in the Velvet Room says that there have been thousands of "guests" there.

But surely P4A2 will be set after P4A, whereas P5 will be set a few years in the future?

Yeah, I agree. Unless they get kinda weird, P5 will definitely take place a few years in the future compared to P4A2 (if it were to take place a short while after P4A). Then again, if P4G's small line of dialogue is to be taken seriously, then it could be inferred that nothing big happened between P4A and P4G's epilogue and that P4A2 could take place at anytime, which I think would be unlikely for the purpose of reusing P4A's assets...

 

[SloaneRisette]

In case anyone cares, this guy uploaded what appears to be every song from the Persona Music Live 2012 concert.

 

[Ties]

Sure, they could just throw canon out the window and go crazy with character inclusions and such, but I can't see that happening given how much emphasis they were putting on P4A being a canon sequel to P4.

Also, Persona 2 had Persona users everywhere and some dude in the Velvet Room says that there have been thousands of "guests" there.



Yeah, I agree. Unless they get kinda weird, P5 will definitely take place a few years in the future compared to P4A2 (if it were to take place a short while after P4A). Then again, if P4G's small line of dialogue is to be taken seriously, then it could be inferred that nothing big happened between P4A and P4G's epilogue and that P4A2 could take place at anytime, which I think would be unlikely for the purpose of reusing P4A's assets...

They can also opt to go the DLC route, or just not make them unusable in the story. I mean, Link was playable in the Gamecube version of Soul Calibur 2, and that didn't really mess up the overarching canon at all, so it's plausible to add in characters that won't make any sense otherwise. I think it's okay for the sake of cast diversity in a fighting game.

And yikes, that's an awfully large number of people that have the "Fool" arcana. I always assumed that only a select few can obtain that type, but if it's really that large of a number then I'd like P5 to be set somewhere other than Japan for a change of pace. Persona 3, 4, and Arena did a pretty good job in developing the dealings of the Persona community, but I'd like to see how Persona users someplace else in the world deal with the threat of Shadows. Didn't Arena allude to Shadows going overseas at some point, or no?

I'd still like it if Persona 5 was developed outside of the universe Persona 3 and 4 established though. I'd like to see some more involvement from Philemon and demons in the next installment.

In case anyone cares, this guy uploaded what appears to be every song from the Persona Music Live 2012 concert.

How big is Persona in Japan? I knew it was a bigger deal over there than in the West, but I never knew the extent of its popularity.

These live renditions sound so grand. Reach Out to the Truth. <3

 

[Dantis]

In case anyone cares, this guy uploaded what appears to be every song from the Persona Music Live 2012 concert.

I love the live Key Plus Words. Hirata's hand gestures when she says "There's no turning back now!" make me laugh every time.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

And yikes, that's an awfully large number of people that have the "Fool" arcana. I always assumed that only a select few can obtain that type, but if it's really that large of a number then I'd like P5 to be set somewhere other than Japan for a change of pace. Persona 3, 4, and Arena did a pretty good job in developing the dealings of the Persona community, but I'd like to see how Persona users someplace else in the world deal with the threat of Shadows. Didn't Arena allude to Shadows going overseas at some point, or no?

There have been thousands of guests (the blind man who says it actually gives an extremely specific number), but keep in mind that none of the numerous Persona 2 "guests" are of the Fool arcana. It was only in Persona 3 and Persona 4 where only the main characters had access to the Velvet Room (

Spoiler

and even then, all of the P3 characters end up becoming guests in The Answer

). I don't remember about Arena mentioning something about the threat of Shadows elsewhere in the world.

I actually do not want the return of demons like in P1 and P2 at all. I love the divide between "real world" and "crazy world" that P3 and P4 established and I don't want a demon invasion scenario like P1 and P2 dealt with.

 

[buddha0991]

I want, Demons by day, Shadows by night.

 

[Soma]

I actually do not want the return of demons like in P1 and P2 at all.

I would absolutely prefer demons compared to pallete swaps of 7-8 shadow enemies (yes I'm exaggerating but still).

That and there are very few things more satisfying than trash talking a demon in his face only to have him become interested in you and become your friend.

 

[SloaneRisette]

There have been thousands of guests (the blind man who says it actually gives an extremely specific number), but keep in mind that none of the numerous Persona 2 "guests" are of the Fool arcana. It was only in Persona 3 and Persona 4 where only the main characters had access to the Velvet Room (

Spoiler

and even then, all of the P3 characters end up becoming guests in The Answer

). I don't remember about Arena mentioning something about the threat of Shadows elsewhere in the world.

I actually do not want the return of demons like in P1 and P2 at all. I love the divide between "real world" and "crazy world" that P3 and P4 established and I don't want a demon invasion scenario like P1 and P2 dealt with.

Yeah, I really like the divide between that, and I think the Shadows work best in that context.

It would be cool if there were Shadows elsewhere in the world, though I don't see that really happening anytime soon,

Spoiler

at least until we get the Akihiko action game spin-off from Platinum Games

but it could be cool nonetheless. I could *potentially* see them tying it in as a part of the plot for 5, like "Oh hey, the entire world is going to crap now!" or something, but that's just more of my speculation/what I wouldn't mind seeing.

 

[Omikaru]

There's been meltdowns on the "Persona Europe" Facebook page today because some little shit stirrer has said the EU version of P4A has been shitcanned. Here's the post:

"Hello people. I'll get straight to the point.

I work for ZEN United, the publisher of this game in Europe and I'm as upset as you about all this 'delaying the game one more time' BS. I'll be honest, the game isn't coming out. Atlus and Arc System Works notified to us in December that we no longer had permission to publish this game. The reason? There will be a sequel/expansion of this game that we won't publish because they've already asked for another publisher. Yes, just as you read it.

They didn't gave us many details, it's called "Persona 4 The Ultimate in Tarutarosu Arena" in japan and will launch this summer worldwide. There are new characters and battle stages added, and by the way they broke our contract, it seems like it will include content of the first game.

We're VERY sorry about this, of course, we'll give a pressnote soon explaining everything. Please, understand that we don't have the rights about the Persona franchise and we didn't developed the game, so there's nothing we can do. The decision was made by Atlus, so we still looking for publish another Arc System Works games. I hope that you'll forgive us, it's all we can ask you. If there's something you might ask, I'll try to answer it."

Of course, this is all sourced from GameFAQs so it's complete bollocks, and Zen have said as much, but I still find it amusing. The delay for release has made the uninformed fandom become slobbering neckbreathers prepared to believe any rumour -- good or bad -- that some random commenter makes.

Alas, until Arc System Works finishes that Xbox 360 version, or Zen decides to go on and release the PS3 version regardless, the misery continues.

And that's your P4A PAL misery update for this week...

 

[SloaneRisette]

There's been meltdowns on the "Persona Europe" Facebook page today because some little shit stirrer has said the EU version of P4A has been shitcanned. Here's the post:



Of course, this is all sourced from GameFAQs so it's complete bollocks, and Zen have said as much, but I still find it amusing. The delay for release has made the uninformed fandom become slobbering neckbreathers prepared to believe any rumour -- good or bad -- that some random commenter makes.

Alas, until Arc System Works finishes that Xbox 360 version, or Zen decides to go on and release the PS3 version regardless, the misery continues.

And that's your P4A PAL misery update for this week...

Honestly, as much as I could see this not being true, I could just as easily see it being true just due to ASW always making new versions of their games. I mean, with BBCP I could see it being less likely, but I once asked Jiyuna (Japanese FGC member) if he figured P4A would get a new version, and he said he figured it would be likely. Obvious that's just a random guy, more or less, so it's not concrete, but a year after the US release seems like a good time to release an update.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

Honestly, as much as I could see this not being true, I could just as easily see it being true just due to ASW always making new versions of their games. I mean, with BBCP I could see it being less likely, but I once asked Jiyuna (Japanese FGC member) if he figured P4A would get a new version, and he said he figured it would be likely. Obvious that's just a random guy, more or less, so it's not concrete, but a year after the US release seems like a good time to release an update.

Nah, I'd have to say that even an arcade release in Japan of a P4A iteration later this year would be nigh impossible.

After P4A's North American release, Atlus stated that the Persona Team is completely focusing on Persona 5's development. ASW's BlazBlue team, on their side, is fully focused on Chrono Phantasma that will be releasing later this year.

Of course, if they like money, they'll eventually release a sequel to one of the fastest selling fighting games ever in Japan, but I really can't see anything concerning a sequel releasing this year.

 

[SloaneRisette]

Nah, I'd have to say that even an arcade release in Japan of a P4A iteration later this year would be nigh impossible.

After P4A's North American release, Atlus stated that the Persona Team is completely focusing on Persona 5's development. ASW's BlazBlue team, on their side, is fully focused on Chrono Phantasma that will be releasing later this year.

Of course, if they like money, they'll eventually release a sequel to one of the fastest selling fighting games ever in Japan, but I really can't see anything concerning a sequel releasing this year.

Well, I couldn't see an arcade release of a P4A sequel, but I could see some DLC or something. I'm sure it won't happen, and yeah, both Atlus and ASW are busy with their respective big projects, but more characters would be nice, at the very least.

 

[Dantis]

There's been meltdowns on the "Persona Europe" Facebook page today because some little shit stirrer has said the EU version of P4A has been shitcanned. Here's the post:



Of course, this is all sourced from GameFAQs so it's complete bollocks, and Zen have said as much, but I still find it amusing. The delay for release has made the uninformed fandom become slobbering neckbreathers prepared to believe any rumour -- good or bad -- that some random commenter makes.

Alas, until Arc System Works finishes that Xbox 360 version, or Zen decides to go on and release the PS3 version regardless, the misery continues.

And that's your P4A PAL misery update for this week...

Haha, oh dear.

I'm going to be incredibly interested to see how low this charts on Amazon UK on release. I'll be impressed if they break into the top 1000.

 

[Trigger]

I would absolutely prefer demons compared to pallete swaps of 7-8 shadow enemies (yes I'm exaggerating but still).

We really need less palette swaps in P5. The devs can be so lazy at times. Half the shadows from P4 were recycled enemies from P3.

 

[Omikaru]

Haha, oh dear.

I'm going to be incredibly interested to see how low this charts on Amazon UK on release. I'll be impressed if they break into the top 1000.

Do Amazon even do a top 1000? I thought they only went up to 100. At any rate, I'd be surprised if the game shifted more than 10k units across the continent, and that's an optimistic guess.

And I think its impact will be muted, anyway. I'm still maintaining that the game is going to crater whatever its release date, so they'll just plop it out for PS3 at the end of next month and then for Xbox 360 "when it's done".

 

[Noi]

We really need less palette swaps in P5. The devs can be so lazy at times. Half the shadows from P4 were recycled enemies from P3.

I of course want new enemies, but I often feel like that's part of the fun of the SMT umbrella as a whole. With the core games, having played through Raidou 1 and P3, I kinda had some general knowledge of what demons were weak to when I played Nocturne and Strange Journey. There were some differences here and there of course, but having that sense of familiarity helped with going through them. With P3 > P4, I recalled that some enemy types were often weak to the same elements, so that actually helped me out with casting the right weaknesses right from the start.

Besides, the shadows are mostly filler for the bigger fights anyway. :V I'd rather they make 'em as fun as the P3 bosses could be sometimes, P4 could have used more bosses like Fortune & Strength in P3.