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PES 2013 - Pro Evolution Soccer |OT| A New Hope
- Thread starter Blablurn
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Are these Final Fantasy summons or football players?? What were they thinking??
Palmieri was crazy awesome. Schwarz too. Never put any japanese guys from the youth squad because they were ridiculously OP, though...
shoplifter
Member
No Minanda - but he's been replaced by MINANDINHO
Wow, reading those names makes my head hurt. Suddenly, "Wojciech Szczęsny" is sounding more and more like "Richard Wright" to me.
I think I can live with that =)
I think I stopped playing this game yesterday. Probably won't go back to it. Mind you, I'm a PES-Fan and I hate FIFA with a passion. Both games are just shit. FIFA, because I feel nothing while playing it, and PES because it has so many issues and really didn't change over the years. The AI is just too fucking dumb. In the offensive play but also in the defensive play. The game is just not believable. It's like you watch a bunch of really really really bad amateur players kicking.
I hope for next gen. They should also stop the yearly cash ins and try to find a better model. In 9 months you can do only so much and I guess it's pretty hard to finish a game for release, so over the course of a generation you probably loose 1-2 years development time all in all.
I hope for next gen. They should also stop the yearly cash ins and try to find a better model. In 9 months you can do only so much and I guess it's pretty hard to finish a game for release, so over the course of a generation you probably loose 1-2 years development time all in all.
I hate to say it but I am feeling the same way right now. This new version just isn't different enough to make me want to keep putting up with the old flaws. Gonna put it down for a bit and come back to it later, maybe I am just a bit burnt out on it. ( I played 2012 up until and even after I got 2013).
Gamecocks625
Member
WHO ATE ALL THE PIES??
please tell me that sign is still in the stadium
please tell me that sign is still in the stadium
But... but... free STEEL BOOK CASE!
With which right they ask full price for a 9 month dev cycle while others take the same amount of money for 2 to 4 years. I know I know, they are not the only one doing it that way, but the minimal updates in the sport series are the worst imo, it's not only PES but only FIFA and probably all of the other EA cash ins. I guess one of the reasons I stopped playing those games. It's quantitiy over qualitiy all over the sports sector. And they still do it this way although we have digital distribution strategies available that could change a lot. But no. To be honest, it kinda satifies me to see that they sell less and less of this shit. It's just bad that at the same moment EA startet selling more and more of an even shittier game.
Spat_triate
Member
http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showthread.php?t=68264
Modding community to the rescue. This tool has a feature called 'Balace CPU/Human Teams' that gives your players the same AI as the CPU. That means that they don't always play like Beginner Level CPU. It works very well.
http://www.pes-patch.com/2012/09/pesedit-com-2013-patch-1-1.html
I've been using this teams patches for the last 3-4 years. Professional quality stuff.
Wow, first time I hear of this. Sounds like magic, me like.
edit: cannot see the page, cannot register (says signups are disabled by administrator), got an external link?
It's just a shame they choose to add Bundesliga 2 instead of another top European division.
For consoles I'd go with FIFA and Pro Evo on PC due to the ease of modding the game.
Does the AI have insane accuracy in close free kicks? Is your defense braindead and will stumble every time there's a ball through, or an opponent rushing towards them? Is your goalkeeper useless in almost every situation that requires him to take control of a loose ball? Do you get a yellow card every time you approach with a bit of force regardless of where the foul is committed, time left, aggression level or urgency of the play?
Yep, it's still PES.
Yep, it's still PES.
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
Are NTSC and PAL edit modes still incompatible? If so, anybody know wher I can find a PS3 NTSC edit file?
Spat_triate
Member
http://jenkey1002.blogspot.com/
OR
http://www.pesjp.net/Gameplaytool/2013/index.html
They add more div 2 leagues as time goes on. Last year I think they had all the major ones.
Cheers man, will check that out.
Spat_triate
Member
Dayum
Dayum
Is this why Ronaldo is sad?
Dayum
I don't even know why Fifa is selling tons and tons. Is it because of the licences? Certainly not because it's catching the sport so well.
Dayum
Wow, in Italy, it should be one of the biggest market for PES. Obviously everyone bought FIFA because of Marchisio.
lol that's cold.Dayum
kobashi100
Banned
Because Konami lost so many PES gamers with there weak efforts in the 360/PS3 era. I honestly dont think Konami will ever get them back exclusively.
Even though they are getting back on track I think its real tough for them.
Having the same exact errors every game doesn't really help. I feel like 15-20 people may be working on these games, at best...
Yeah, PES fans jumped ship. FIFA already sold better than PES previously, the best PES ever got was close to FIFA's sales in PES 5/6. PES fans jumping ship causes a landslide victory every year.
i was as die hard a pro evo fan as there could be, hated fifa, thought pes 6 was the best football game in existence. Now i love fifa and ever pes game since 6 hast felt terrible. I have to push myself to even try the demos these days.
Broder Salsa
Banned
Having so many teams and being way more accurate with stats and such. Not having been a joke this gen (seriously after PES08 it's amazing anyone would ever give it another try). Lots of different game modes.
It's really no wonder, at this point it takes a lot more for PES than just catching up which is what it's still doing, to sell well, most people has gone to Fifa, even people like me who was a huge ISS/PES fanboy back on ps1 and ps2.
kobashi100
Banned
it will be £25 or less in the UK next month. It will sink like a stone over the next few weeks.
I have seen one site already drop PES 2013 to £28 and its only a week old.
I'm about done with Konami and PES despite looking promising I can't even play my favourite mode (Master League Online) due to this shit:
I can play anything else on the PC just fine, even on the god awful GFWL. I even disabled my firewalls and DMZ'd my PC (lulz) just put it to bed and confirm Konami's servers/netcoding suck balls. Tried everything, even switching routers, port forwarding......nothing.
Back to Fifa it is then. Good job it only cost me £15, waste of money.
NINJA EDIT: Ok, I got it working - using a VPN to Amsterdam, but seriously...WTF?
I can play anything else on the PC just fine, even on the god awful GFWL. I even disabled my firewalls and DMZ'd my PC (lulz) just put it to bed and confirm Konami's servers/netcoding suck balls. Tried everything, even switching routers, port forwarding......nothing.
Back to Fifa it is then. Good job it only cost me £15, waste of money.
NINJA EDIT: Ok, I got it working - using a VPN to Amsterdam, but seriously...WTF?
Spat_triate
Member
Konami reaped what they sowed this generation, no more no less. I have no clue what they do with the proceeds that they get from PES (It still sells better in South America/Japan and some parts of Europe).
EA knows what they have with FIFA and at least seems interested in reinvesting some of what they make back into tech that supports the game.
By contrast, Konami has done fuck-all with their tech since the PS2 days. The games stagnated then got worse and customers moved on.
Every year they sell smaller and smaller quantities of a series that has the potential to make them a ton of money. I hope the development team has had the fire lit under their asses, because if PES 2014 is anywhere as bad as PES 2008 was, it's all over.
EA knows what they have with FIFA and at least seems interested in reinvesting some of what they make back into tech that supports the game.
By contrast, Konami has done fuck-all with their tech since the PS2 days. The games stagnated then got worse and customers moved on.
Every year they sell smaller and smaller quantities of a series that has the potential to make them a ton of money. I hope the development team has had the fire lit under their asses, because if PES 2014 is anywhere as bad as PES 2008 was, it's all over.
Relying on the fans to complete your game post-launch is not the way to sell a game where success depends on that missing piece.
I am talking about team rosters and not licenses.
It's funny that even though PES this year is still horrible, FIFA is even more horrible. I would be less pissed if I could buy FIFA instead of PES but unfortunately FIFA is just so bad that it makes PES look good even though PES is horrible as well.
We need a third developer.
We need a third developer.