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[Huw_Dawson]

It is a bit odd to have two threads for the same topic on GAF, I don't recall this ever happening before

So if I am right in what I have read, this dude came out with a racial slur on a livestream after getting shot at, quickly apologised (?) on the stream but the damage was done by that point?

That is a level of actual idiocy that defies comprehension. Even in the UK the n-bomb is one of the worst words a white person can use.

YouTube is a dead site for little fish now, this will likely kill it further. :/

 

[Thornton Reed]

I've just seen the footage. It's horrible. I can't believe there are people out there defending this shit.

 

[Fat4all]

It is a bit odd to have two threads for the same topic on GAF, I don't recall this ever happening before

So if I am right in what I have read, this dude came out with a racial slur on a livestream after getting shot at, quickly apologised (?) on the stream but the damage was done by that point?

That is a level of actual idiocy that defies comprehension. Even in the UK the n-bomb is one of the worst words a white person can use.

YouTube is a dead site for little fish now, this will likely kill it further. :/

he didn't apologize

he said his stream watchers wouldn't care that he said it

 

[Burbeting]

It's not rocket science. He used a racist slur as an insult, and he did it with ease. There is nothing to defend here. Worst part is that he has lot of followers among children.

 

[Moosichu]

I agree with this.
There are white ppl who are racists and there are white ppl who don't admit it. Deep down we all know it

This just isn't true.

Racism is learnt behaviour, no one is born racist and the concept is less than 1000 years old.

Yes, some people only show their true colors when they think "you are one of them". But just because racist are cowards, doesn't mean everybody is secretly racist.

 

[CannonFodder52]

I don't understand the argument of and someone tweeted this response to me "If the majority officially acknowledged that the word(s) had no power to them then being racist with words would be that much harder." Words don't have power? This sounds like a failing philosophy student trying to do a edgy presentation for their Major.

I hear this "words have no power" shit pretty often from white guys. Same people will throw a tantrum if you say affirmative action or feminism.

 

[Stead Fast]

It is a bit odd to have two threads for the same topic on GAF, I don't recall this ever happening before

So if I am right in what I have read, this dude came out with a racial slur on a livestream after getting shot at, quickly apologised (?) on the stream but the damage was done by that point?

That is a level of actual idiocy that defies comprehension. Even in the UK the n-bomb is one of the worst words a white person can use.

YouTube is a dead site for little fish now, this will likely kill it further. :/

The excuse being bandied around is he says to a player "Jeez man, what a fucking n******!" Then pauses, for half a second, closes his eyes in frustration, then cries "what the fuck, Sorry, but what the fuck?" Continues playing, then says "What a fucking asshole, I don't mean that in a bad way! *chuckling a lot now*"

That's 'the apology' people are defending.

 

[Die Squirrel Die]

YouTube is a dead site for little fish now, this will likely kill it further. :/

I feel sorry for the non-racist Youtubers and streamers who are going to get squeezed by this because Youtube at least (I don't know about Twitch) would rather just algorithmically push down on everyone, rather than prune the racist weeds.

 

[hesido]

I'm not sure if I support this.

What's GAF verdict on let's play's?

Should publishers / developers try DMCA takedowns Youtubers with certain world views?

Are the ones that do not file DMCA's supporting the views that of the Youtuber?

 

[Zolo]

I'm not sure if I support this.

What's GAF verdict on let's play's?

Should publishers / developers try DMCA takedowns Youtubers with certain world views?

Are the ones that do not file DMCA's supporting the views that of the Youtuber?

There's a topic discussing that. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1431275

 

[Dutch Gronk]

I'm not sure if I support this.

What's GAF verdict on let's play's?

Should publishers / developers try DMCA takedowns Youtubers with certain world views?

Are the ones that do not file DMCA's supporting the views that of the Youtuber?

If a "certain world view" is that of a racist, unapologetic piece of shit then yes.

 

[Thornton Reed]

I'm not sure if I support this.

What's GAF verdict on let's play's?

Should publishers / developers try DMCA takedowns Youtubers with certain world views?

Are the ones that do not file DMCA's supporting the views that of the Youtuber?

this is a slippery slope. I'm not in favour of this.

 

[stray_moogle]

I'm not sure if I support this.

What's GAF verdict on let's play's?

Should publishers / developers try DMCA takedowns Youtubers with certain world views?

Are the ones that do not file DMCA's supporting the views that of the Youtuber?

It's a political statement against racism, so yeah, I personally support this. It doesn't really matter if the DMCA goes through, what matters is the developers' opinion over the matter.

 

[Stead Fast]

I'm not sure if I support this.

What's GAF verdict on let's play's?

Should publishers / developers try DMCA takedowns Youtubers with certain world views?

Are the ones that do not file DMCA's supporting the views that of the Youtuber?

The whole point of allowing Lets Players to play their games and generate ad revenue on them is to allow for free advertising and promotion of their game, no?

Why would you want to associate your game with a racist?

 

[Boke1879]

There's a thread for that. Discuss it there.

 

[Doc_Drop]

I'm not sure if I support this.

What's GAF verdict on let's play's?

Should publishers / developers try DMCA takedowns Youtubers with certain world views?

Are the ones that do not file DMCA's supporting the views that of the Youtuber?

It's down to YouTube, they are not acting on blatantly racist and shitty content creators. If a company wants to use whatever power they have to get said scum to stop making money off their IP then they have every right. It's on YouTube to then address the issue. In this case it's essentially a open protest unlike the types to use DMCA takedowns to suppress criticism

Edit - I see there is a thread for that, I'll stop going off topic here

 

[Messofanego]

It says a lot about a person when you see what words they can use casually.

https://twitter.com/Yoojin_Cho/status/900725436556161024

No way can someone just say "Martin Luther coon" unless they've been using it regularly in their vocabulary. Only a racist would suggest taking down black leaders' signs as retaliation for taking down his precious confederate loser statues.

 

[Bishop89]

I'm not sure if I support this.

What's GAF verdict on let's play's?

Should publishers / developers try DMCA takedowns Youtubers with certain world views?

Are the ones that do not file DMCA's supporting the views that of the Youtuber?

Would it even make any difference now (for previously uploaded content)?
I assume the majority of the videos clicks would be in the opening few weeks/months, and this wouldn't mean much to the content creators x plus months/years down the line.

Or am I being naive?

EDIT: There's a thread about it? alright, ignore this post then.

 

[Wonderfalls]

One of the more saddening aspects of this is people from outside the US pretending like yelling the n-word would just be considered a jolly jape elsewhere. I mean, shit, maybe, but that would just be indicative of an even bigger problem.

In the UK it's absolutely unacceptable. In fact there was a recent public furore when a member of parliament used the word in a meeting. So whilst I can't say what's commonplace in other European countries it's absolutely not considered acceptable here.

 

[PrimeX]

This just isn't true.

Racism is learnt behaviour, no one is born racist and the concept is less than 1000 years old.

Yes, some people only show their true colors when they think "you are one of them". But just because racist are cowards, doesn't mean everybody is secretly racist.

This is not 1k years old. Should I remind you that the a antiquity greeks were calling 'barbarian' and 'lesser humans' the light skinned/fair haired ppl they encountered?

 

[Chairmanchuck]

In the UK it's absolutely unacceptable. In fact there was a recent public furore when a member of parliament used the word in a meeting. So whilst I can't say what's commonplace in other European countries it's absolutely not considered acceptable here.

I doubt in most european countries its acceptable and the posters who say "It doesnt mean that" are either lying or just plain ignorant. Also most people who say "Its not a bad word in our language" are junior members with a few posts, so might be trolling too.

 

[Widge]

In the UK it's absolutely unacceptable. In fact there was a recent public furore when a member of parliament used the word in a meeting. So whilst I can't say what's commonplace in other European countries it's absolutely not considered acceptable here.

Luis Suarez incident a few years back too. 8 game ban.

 

[Anticol]

I'm not sure if I support this.

What's GAF verdict on let's play's?

Should publishers / developers try DMCA takedowns Youtubers with certain world views?

Are the ones that do not file DMCA's supporting the views that of the Youtuber?

Certain world views? being a racist is having a world view?

Why are so many idiots around? Wtf is wrong with you people?

What's next, calling a nazist wishing for the extermination of other races a "world view"? You fkn disgust me.

 

[derFeef]

I doubt in most european countries its acceptable and the posters who say "It doesnt mean that" are either lying or just plain ignorant. Also most people who say "Its not a bad word in our language" are junior members with a few posts, so might be trolling too.

Not too long ago I had someone say to me that the word is perfectly fine, especially if you are giving money to "them" because "they need it" - so now they are "allowed" to say the word. I could not believe what I heard.

 

[luulubuu]

the fact that is the white theme makes it even better

 

[Fat4all]

the fact that is the white theme makes it even better

hey now
hey now
hey now




light is right

 

[PhantomThief]

I'm not sure if I support this.

What's GAF verdict on let's play's?

Should publishers / developers try DMCA takedowns Youtubers with certain world views?

Are the ones that do not file DMCA's supporting the views that of the Youtuber?

If I was the developer I wouldnt want this racist punkass playing my games and making money off it either, while spouting racist language on stream.

 

[Supermanisdead]

I hope this guy goes broke and his media accounts are all banned. What a fucking racist piece of shit.

 

[Rellik]

Luis Suarez incident a few years back too. 8 game ban.

Which was nowhere near enough.

Drop the N word on a police officer in the UK and see where it gets you. I hope you like the food at the local police station.

 

[takriel]

Certain world views? being a racist is having a world view?

Why are so many idiots around? Wtf is wrong with you people?

What's next, calling a nazist wishing for the extermination of other races a "world view"? You fkn disgust me.

#bothsides are at fault here bro

 

[kinezu]

Why on Earth would somebody use the "n" word to denigrate someone? I mean there are many, many ways to tell somebody that you are mad at them. I really think it's discusting and when somebody says that with such ease it's clear that they say it very often. As a non-native English speaker i feel that i have to go out of my way and then some to say that word so for PDP i think that is no excuse.

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

hey now
hey now
hey now




light is right

Nah, once you go black you can't go back

Spoiler

because the white theme will blind you

.

 

[Veitsev]

Why on Earth would somebody use the "n" word to denigrate someone? I mean there are many, many ways to tell somebody that you are mad at them. I really think it's discusting and when somebody says that with such ease it's clear that they say it very often. As a non-native English speaker i feel that i have to go out of my way and then some to say that word so for PDP i think that is no excuse.

Someone says it casually like this because they use it a lot.

 

[ScientificPizza]

This is not 1k years old. Should I remind you that the a antiquity greeks were calling 'barbarian' and 'lesser humans' the light skinned/fair haired ppl they encountered?

Yeah saying racism is less than a thousand years old is disingenuous at best

 

[TheContact]

Pewdiepie is a racist piece of shit? Who knew? Everyone? Oh yea

 

[Fat4all]

Nah, once you go black you can't go back

Spoiler

because the white theme will blind you

.

get better eyes, skrub!

*burning, pure eyes*

 

[Kayant]

Any updates on possible sponsor drop outs and the like(I know fat chance but hey).

 

[Diabolical]

This guy never ceases to amaze (or surprise) with his utter ignorance.

 

[Thornton Reed]

Certain world views? being a racist is having a world view?

Why are so many idiots around? Wtf is wrong with you people?

What's next, calling a nazist wishing for the extermination of other races a "world view"? You fkn disgust me.

what if a gamergate Dev releases a game and they start issuing DMCA takedowns as they sit on the other side of the debate of people playing their game.

i think all Anticol is saying this could be opened up to abuse. Well thats how i see it.

Don't get me wrong I agree with the dev's at Campo Santo, I wouldn't want my product associated with PewDiePie after this.

 

[Markoman]

Just stop it, boy. You're an unintelligent young man who was lucky to break the bank. Fair game, take the money and call it quits. Your intellect doesn't seem to be on the same level as the responsibility you've earned in the process of becoming a star.

Good lord, what a jerk. And holy shit the defense force....I can't believe that there's still people out there who believe that it's ok for white people to use the N-word, just because black people do it. Oh, and there's still the "I listen to Rap music, so I do get black culture crowd"

 

[Paquete_PT]

as a Portuguese person myself, this post is embarassing on about 5 different levels.

Not shocking mind you, since my country is racist as shit. And homophobic, dont even get me started on that.

As a portuguese, you need to get out of the country more if you think our country is "racist and homophobic as fuck". We have people from very different backgrounds and ethnicities living in the same environment. Portugal was the 8th country worldwide to accept same-sex marriage. As Europe leans right we have a strong left at the helm. This would be another topic on itself, just couldn't let that pass without evidence backing it.

There is indeed a cultural and regional difference to the way some words are interpreted and used. Power is given to words through history, context and intent.
I believe it's true that most europeans "learned" or heard the n-word in different contexts. We hear it being used liberally in music, movies and tv shows, some times in a comedian environment. Here in Portugal the exact word is not used neither as an insult nor as a joke (in its english form or the portuguese translation), even though other (very similar) words will gain the same meaning depending on the way you use them.

That being said, those of us who use the internet and know a little bit about american social culture know how the word is perceived and the do's and don'ts. (I'll admit that the fact that we can't even write it down seems strange to me).

Of course, all this is meaningless when PDP clearly knows the meaning and uses it a spiteful and, shall I say, violent, way.

 

[PhantomThief]

what if a gamergate Dev releases a game and they start issuing DMCA takedowns as they sit on the other side of the debate of people playing their game.

i think all Anticol is saying this could be opened up to abuse. Well thats how i see it.

Don't get me wrong I agree with the dev's at Campo Santo, I wouldn't want my product associated with PewDiePie after this.

What gamergate games?

Also, why would you want to play a game made by a gg asshat?

 

[NeoRaider]

100 pages in less than 24h?? Wow
This guy sure is getting some attention...

 

[qa_engineer]

I've just seen the footage. It's horrible. I can't believe there are people out there defending this shit.

Have you see who the president of the United States is? Of course there are people defending this.

 

[PhantomThief]

100 pages in less than 24h?? Wow
This guy sure is getting some attention...

Racists keep coming out of the woodwork.

Also use 100 replies man, so 50 pages.

 

[Chairmanchuck]

what if a gamergate Dev releases a game and they start issuing DMCA takedowns as they sit on the other side of the debate of people playing their game.

How many GG devs would that be in the long run? I mean then I cant play 3 games on "my" stream.

What gamergate games?

Stuff like Hatred I guess or that E3 futuristic one.

 

[derFeef]

What gamergate games?

Also, why would you want to play a game made by a gg asshat?

Have you played The Vanishing of Ethan Carter?

 

[Fat4all]

100 pages in less than 24h?? Wow
This guy sure is getting some attention...

you get what you deserve


like the time I got socks of St. Patrick's Day instead of whiskey


that was a weird one

 

[Rellik]

100 pages in less than 24h?? Wow
This guy sure is getting some attention...

Well, even the BBC News (World) Twitter account reported it.

 

[Thornton Reed]

What gamergate games?

Also, why would you want to play a game made by a gg asshat?

There is one coming out soon isn't there? I was just using that as a hypothetical situation to highlight were this COULD potentially be abused.