Pewdiepie just can't help himself with the N word...the 4th time
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Do you also refuse to tell your kids why it's not ok to call a woman "bitch"? If they said that to their mother or family member would you just sit idly by because you would consider it sexist to do so?
Racism exists and we are living in it. Trying to ignore it just makes things worse. Try to make your kids good people rather than ignorant people.
The à¹ÛBronx
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Someone mind helping me understand what he was going to say this time, sounded like it started with "nev". Not suggesting this is all a misunderstanding, because it's apparent I'm the one lacking info.
The post you replied to was well thought out. Yours on the other hand is a typical knee jerk Internet judgemental wank response.
At no point did he indicate he was ignoring racism. From reading the post their thought of racist behaviour was clear. Did you actually read it, before hammering aggressively on your keyboard?
As for the edited parenting advice, does that come from personal experience?
Quadraphonic
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The ๖ۜBronx;249077970 said:
A lot of times, people will try to say things that RHYME with the N-word to get around not being able to say it.
Earlier someone mentioned the emoji.
That is also DIRECTLY tied to the N-word.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nibba
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/b-button-emoji-🅱
Nightmare452
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In the video, he clearly starts saying a word to an opposing player (which he just fought in PUBG) with "ne..." and then he catches himself and states "no, I can't say that, not after this week, I gotta watch to say stuff like that again." It's kinda clear he was gonna say something derogatory and he knew it was similar to what had happened last time earlier in the week.The ๖ۜBronx;249077970 said:
In this case, he caught himself and thats actually hard to do live like that, but his intent seems to be that he was going there again. That's why everyone here is up in arms. I for one never watched his stuff, not the "watch youtubers stream gameplay" person, but some have a right to protest him if they feel its justified.
SilverArrow20XX
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So the 3rd time was him describing the 2nd time and....he didn't say it a 4th time, he just almost said it and stopped himself. That's kind of an improvement if he's trying to eliminate it from his vocabulary. I mean, it shouldn't have been there in the first place, but if he's trying to be more aware of it that's a good thing. Question is if he's genuinely trying to improve or if he just wants to stop getting in trouble for saying it on camera.
A white guy making the conversation about his plight when talking about the N word is not very well thought out.
Ummmm, yes, I did read it.
Words have meanings and we should teach our kids what they are so they know how to use words? It's not a difficult concept to grasp. Should we also refuse to teach kids history?
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Is it not good to teach kids to recognize bad people and what is bad, so they can fight against it? Would you refuse to teach your kids what stealing is? Wouldn't they go on to steal without knowing the consequences?
That's the whole root of the issue. Doing things you're not supposed to and then playing victim because you were never told otherwise.
How hard is it to tell your kids that for a very long time that word was used to hurt black people and so black people decided for themselves to take that word back?
And that after white people enslaved black people white people really shouldn't be telling black people what they can or cannot do.
It's so strange to me how so many white people get so upset that they're not allowed to use that word but black people are.
Also there's a pretty significant difference between "-er" and "-a".
You guys are so gullible. The almost slip was already his intent.
N21
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There's nothing wrong with you finding hilarious but don't get mad at someone when they call you the n-word.
I know right? Popular internet personality who is followed by lots of kids and is already getting LOTS of attention casually drops the N-bomb. Why are people making a big deal?
Just ignore white supremacists, y'all. They will go away. Your kids will totally not be affected, either.
SilverArrow20XX
Walks in the Light of the Crystal
Oh. I don't follow him at all so I didn't really have context.
He really shouldn't be cursing so much at all since he's so popular with kids.
I'm sure these same kids listen to rap music and hear plenty of N bombs. Whats the difference?
Hmm, I really don't understand why the "As a black guy" qualifier had to be there, but alright lol
Yea I really was impressed by how tone deaf his posts were. The conversations I'll be having with my children will be very different, that's for sure.
SilverArrow20XX
Walks in the Light of the Crystal
Well, despite listening to that music, they aren't the target audience or the main demographic.
The à¹ÛBronx
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Thank you. Such a sad world we live in where people feel a compulsion to say the word, know it's wrong and somehow thing saying something that rhymes (with the intent of effectively saying the word) is a better or acceptable solution.
He may laugh it off but the fact he finds it hard to not throw around the n-word as an insult, to the extent where this is two days after a global uproar about his use of it, is actually pretty unsettling. Like the tip of an iceberg it makes you wonder just how often it's said in his personal life.
I'm not sure if you misunderstood my intentions but I was never suggesting he was blameless nor that people shouldn't be protesting.
Messofanego
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Stopping white people from engaging in the discussion about whether the N word is fine to say isn't racism. White people are the ones who enslaved black people, remember. Black people have reclaimed the N word and if they want to say "nigga" to reduce the worse word's power, let them you white people. Give them at least that. If you're white, you don't have a say in whether you want black people to stop saying it. Same as women reclaiming "bitch" or LGBT people reclaiming "queer". That conversation should be between them. Sorry it's not as black and white as whether you can use the word or no one is allowed to use it.
It doesn't bother you that he's helping to groom a generation of apathetic individuals who are completely numb to hateful rhetoric?
Groom a generation? Ignorant generations have existed since the dawn of time.
The à¹ÛBronx
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I grew up loving hip-hop and, sadly, messing around on /b/ and its environments. There's a pretty massive difference and even then I understood it, I just didn't care about the latter. As I grew up and got more world experience I saw and appreciated the effect words like "n*****" and "f*****" had on people and realised how wholly ignorant and selfish my disregard for that had been.
toddhunter
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While that is true, those generations also then had to go out and join "the real world". It is quite difficult to be a dick to someone at a pub in person when they can punch you in the face. Even if you try this, you'll eventually pick the wrong person and learn the hard way.
The new way of doing things is to retreat anonymously into a safe space online and ascend further up your own ass.
Sony
Nintendo
You can't. He has a large audience outside of the US where using the N-word isn't a big deal. Not saying I agree with it, but the N-word doesn't have a big a bearing outside of the US.
Ok. That's a start. Don't tell me what I can't do. <3
I mean, he has 50+ million subscribers and plenty of them are kids. Pewdiepie ain't helping nothing regardless of the dumb people of the past. He's only contributing further to stupidity, racism, and attempts to discredit mainstream news.
The à¹ÛBronx
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People that cannot stop themselves from saying the n-word as an insult to people are, yes. When you've had the world at your throat about it and almost let it slip two days later it seriously is indicative of a larger issue.
Sony
Nintendo
Look at is his history of racism. That barely made a dent, let alone hurt him. Added to that, he's a videogame streamer. I don't think I have to tell anyone who plays online how liberally the N-word is used.
I truly pity your weak and ignorant view of the racial dynamics in our present age. When you allow personalities like this guy, who has a tremendous reach to an impressionable audience to skate by when he says repugnant shit like this, then you're letting everyone else who says this language get away with it too. Which means you have no respect, nor any understanding of your culture and history, and how that word has tremendous power.
I don't know if this a troll, or you're telling the truth, but as a black man myself--I can tell you're a fucked individual with this mindset of yours.
N21
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Not really, ignorant about certain things, yes. Don't lump people you don't know and start to assume their behaviours.
:I
The à¹ÛBronx
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No, not really. If you feel that way about yourself that's fine but don't apply it to the rest of humanity.
You are absolutely right, but if we all just sit around and let our hobby be hijacked by pieces of shit like PDP...
Like, where the fuck is the counterattack? Why is there not a concerted effort by gamers to vaporize this horrid fucker?
Is gaming inherently shit?
no
But neither is Pewdiepie clearly. Unless you think Outcast 2 and the like does actually appeal to kids.
That's why I won't agree with the "he must be child friendly argument".
No one would ask GTA to tone stuff down because kids play it, even if many kids play it, because when they shouldn't be.
Wouldn't surprise me if this whole thing is just for more attention and views though, as they say, even bad publicity is good publicity, but if that's it, it's incredibly short sighted and hes not seeing what his actions are doijg for youtube in the long term.
Chairmanchuck
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Yep.
Someone uses the N-word, makes a social experiment letting Indian people write "Death to all jews", selling a hitler beard t-shirt, using "Hitler did nothing wrong" Memes, does one show in an army uniform after his "HItler" jokes, says "fucking nigger" in the heat of the moment...
... the word just seems to be abused.
The à¹ÛBronx
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Perhaps enlighten me as to how I'm a racist, since you're so sure.
That's one way to admit your racism. Invite the world.
As a black guy I wonder if you'll find it hilarious if a bunch of these Pewdiepie kids call you/family/friends the n-word down the line.
He's grooming kids for inevitable ass whoopings.
Are you just gonna keep being obtuse the entire time?
I dunno about you but I have never uttered a racial slur in my entire life. Nor have I seen anyone to be inferior or superior.
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