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[neocycle]

Try Darksiders if you like dungeons.

 

[DGrayson]

Did anyone ever play through the Master Quest and is it worth it?

 

[Stafford]

Welcome to the Family!

Glad you enjoyed OoT. I would strongly recommend MM right away. The Time mechanic is very light, especially when you learn to slow it down, so don’t let that be a showstopper.
After that, if you haven’t played it yet, play Twilight Princess.

I really want to, but I don't have a Cube anymore and neither a Wii, plus I really dislike motion controls. A copy for Cube is more than I want to spend on it.

Try Darksiders if you like dungeons.

Played them all, except for the isometric one, love those games.

 

[Danknugz]

i never got stuck just never finished it, need to go back myself too. it's the next chronologically in my zelda backlog. 1998 was a year of great emotional turmoil for me and hearing this game mentioned triggers me.

 

[TintoConCasera]

Did anyone ever play through the Master Quest and is it worth it?

Only as a teen when it came out included with WW.

I remember it's dungeons being more challenging for sure, but since I played it so long ago I can't say if the level design is actually better. Still worth a try for sure, deku tree alone is a good example of how much more challenging it is.

 

[Soodanim]

Did anyone ever play through the Master Quest and is it worth it?

I did. It’s an interesting remix for the dungeons, with some being more challenging than others. I don’t remember all of the dungeons and changes off the top of my head, but you definitely take some different routes and there are things you simply don’t expect to see.

If you have access to it I would say it’s definitely worth experiencing one of the greats in a different way. It’s never going to be considered better than the original, but that’s not what it’s aiming for.

Overall I liked it.

 

[Hookshot]

My vague memory of the master quest is a cow inside Jabu Jabu

 

[Stafford]

Welcome to the Family!

Glad you enjoyed OoT. I would strongly recommend MM right away. The Time mechanic is very light, especially when you learn to slow it down, so don’t let that be a showstopper.
After that, if you haven’t played it yet, play Twilight Princess.

Yeah, it took a short while for me to adjust to stuff here. The first time I got game over and had to do it all over, or so I thought until I realised I only had to find the lost fairy to get the ability to shoot blobs, and yep speaking to the scarecrow to learn how to play a particular song backwards, incredibly cool stuff. It has clicked with me. This time mechanic isn't going to ruin it for me. I'm normal again, I got my weapon and shield and I can go outside now.

I have questions though, lol, but I trust the game will explain all in due time.

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

Ocarina of Time is the best complete Zelda package. It has the gameplay, the dungeons, the items, the feels, the direction. If the Water Temple was a bit more straightforward and didn’t have that fight with Dark Link, nobody would remember a single bad thing from OoT. I guess the PC recompile with 60fps and free camera fixes the only real couple of technical issues the game had and that make it a bit hard to go back to these days.

Majora’s Mask is a more complex and demanding game, but it rewards handsomely whoever has the patience to learn and understand it.
It is a stunningly mature game disguised as a fairy tale for kids - just like the fairy tales of old. It takes the premise of Groundhog Day and builds a tremendously dark story around it. Solving every NPC storyline in MM is incredibly rewarding and creates a real connection with the game’s world and characters. You really feel like you did some good for these people, even if you’re still to solve the greater threat. MM punches above and beyond most realistic, cinematic games that came after it. But yeah, it’s not easy to get into.

Both games are amazing. OoT is just the most straightforward of the two. It’s a game that really everyone can enjoy, as long as they’re not so jaded that they absolutely need real people and real(istic) environments to enjoy a story.

 

[Kamina]

I really want to, but I don't have a Cube anymore and neither a Wii, plus I really dislike motion controls. A copy for Cube is more than I want to spend on it.

I presume you don’t have a WiiU either then. Well, perhaps Nintendo will release the HD Versions of TP and WW for Switch or Switch 2; there have been rumors for years.

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

Did anyone ever play through the Master Quest and is it worth it?

I hated it. Most it does is just randomly put the “light four torches to open door” puzzle in places it wasn’t before, to a comical degree. Apart from that, I remember practically nothing of interest in it compared to the original. It’s been a long, long time since I played it, mind. I basically played it once on the GameCube bonus disc and never again.

 

[Stafford]

Question about Majora's Mask....

Sometimes I use a guide for some smaller optional stuff I could miss out on. I know, it's better to discover shit yourself but yeah.....it is what it is. I am wondering though, the stuff for citizens such as the bomb lady, Kamaro etc, all are in different locations and different times.

If I didn't know about these thanks to the guide I would just need to randomly be in those areas at those times to get these quests? It feels very different from how games have been doing this for years, as in making it clear to you where side quests can be found. This takes some getting used to, lol.

Also, when I found certain items stuff as the deed and I reverse time back to day 1 it's gone. Will this be the same with items such as the bomb mask? Because man that's going to be a hassle and annoy me.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

The best girl of Ocarina of time.

 

[EverydayBeast]

Majora’s mask is pretty high level, the clock system raises alarms for some and everything can feel leftover from OOT but everyone knows it’s the best Zelda game.

 

[Stafford]

Majora’s mask is pretty high level, the clock system raises alarms for some and everything can feel leftover from OOT but everyone knows it’s the best Zelda game.

Yeah I can see why it scares some people off, those that just want to explore at their own pace and not having to worry about timers. But so far it seems fair to me. I just checked and I keep items such as the masks if I rewind time, with the exception of some items. It's not too bad and certainly not as annoying as I was afraid it would be.

That being said, i haven't reached the point yet where I see.....the point of the timer, it's neither hampering my experience, nor really improving it, yet. It's there.

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

Question about Majora's Mask....

Sometimes I use a guide for some smaller optional stuff I could miss out on. I know, it's better to discover shit yourself but yeah.....it is what it is. I am wondering though, the stuff for citizens such as the bomb lady, Kamaro etc, all are in different locations and different times.

If I didn't know about these thanks to the guide I would just need to randomly be in those areas at those times to get these quests? It feels very different from how games have been doing this for years, as in making it clear to you where side quests can be found. This takes some getting used to, lol.

Also, when I found certain items stuff as the deed and I reverse time back to day 1 it's gone. Will this be the same with items such as the bomb mask? Because man that's going to be a hassle and annoy me.

It was contained enough that you were expected to observe people's actions throughout the three days without having to deal with too much information. Also, most quests only need you to pay attention on the first day, then you get a trail to follow through the following two days. But yeah, some quests can be pretty obscure. Some of them can't be completed unless you have gotten pretty far into the game and obtained most items.

Some items disappear when you reset the clock, but you will never lose masks.

 

[amigastar]

Majora’s mask is pretty high level, the clock system raises alarms for some and everything can feel leftover from OOT but everyone knows it’s the best Zelda game.

Big words, there. I finally should convince myself and play it on the 3DS.

 

[clarky]

Up there with Deus Ex as the best games ever made. Ocarina of Time 3D still gets milage on my 3DS to this very day.

There's something about the ending that's very bittersweet to me that makes the entire game so endearing. Stays with me all these years and replays later.

What a game.

Deus Ex man what a game. If i could purchase you a beverage I would.

 

[Stafford]

It was contained enough that you were expected to observe people's actions throughout the three days without having to deal with too much information. Also, most quests only need you to pay attention on the first day, then you get a trail to follow through the following two days. But yeah, some quests can be pretty obscure. Some of them can't be completed unless you have gotten pretty far into the game and obtained most items.

Some items disappear when you reset the clock, but you will never lose masks.

I'm at Woodfall Temple now. It's often too tempting to grab a guide but I didn't and it feels good to achieve stuff on your own. I'm definitely loving it, played all evening and I plan to play way, way more tomorrow.

 

[Kamina]

Question about Majora's Mask....

Sometimes I use a guide for some smaller optional stuff I could miss out on. I know, it's better to discover shit yourself but yeah.....it is what it is. I am wondering though, the stuff for citizens such as the bomb lady, Kamaro etc, all are in different locations and different times.

If I didn't know about these thanks to the guide I would just need to randomly be in those areas at those times to get these quests? It feels very different from how games have been doing this for years, as in making it clear to you where side quests can be found. This takes some getting used to, lol.

Also, when I found certain items stuff as the deed and I reverse time back to day 1 it's gone. Will this be the same with items such as the bomb mask? Because man that's going to be a hassle and annoy me.

There are a lot of sidequests in MM.
The Bombers notebook helps keeping track of storylines, so you should be fine without a guide mostly, but yes, there are some things you come by on accident only, like the thief trying to steal the bomb bag.

 

[Stafford]

There are a lot of sidequests in MM.
The Bombers notebook helps keeping track of storylines, so you should be fine without a guide mostly, but yes, there are some things you come by on accident only, like the thief trying to steal the bomb bag.

Yeah the notebook is ideal! I just finished the Woodfall Temple, man I'm hooked!

 

[Stafford]

Just another post saying how awesome this game is. These masks you get truly are fucking dope! It's so different from OOT too. And I'm glad to say the time mechanic hasn't been a bother at all. Managed to finish temples in time and if I do gotta go back, it's not that these bosses are that challenging, so that's good.

I'm at the beach now, loving it.

 

[zokie]

congrats and hope you will play Majora Mask soon , i am glad i did not have nightmares about MM on 3DS

i remember that i have completed OOT but i forget is it on N64 or 3DS

My copy of MM on 3DS are still backlogged and not completed , sometimes the glasses free 3D makes my eyes tired

And also hoping that OOT and MM will get remastered on Switch 2 with improved controls , graphics and maybe some new content

 

[BlackTron]

Just another post saying how awesome this game is. These masks you get truly are fucking dope! It's so different from OOT too. And I'm glad to say the time mechanic hasn't been a bother at all. Managed to finish temples in time and if I do gotta go back, it's not that these bosses are that challenging, so that's good.

I'm at the beach now, loving it.

An asset flip that was actually a sequel/different game. Another layer of surrealness.

 

[Stafford]

Lmfao bro!

So after plenty hours in this game I just found out I CAN skip the mask animations. I mean it's not the end of the world having to watch the animations, but knowing I can skip? Yes!

 

[fart town usa]

OOT is just as good today as it was when it released.

Don't sleep on Twilight Princess if you want something similar to OOT.

 

[rubik's dude]

OOT is just as good today as it was when it released.

Don't sleep on Twilight Princess if you want something similar to OOT.

I'd highly recommend the Twilight Princess manga too, if you enjoy the game. All of the LoZ games have been adapted into manga, and it's the best outta all of em. 11 volumes in total, lots of characterization, it expands on the story and lore immensely, and ties in more subplot from the Hero of Time Link (OoT/MM).

 

[fart town usa]

I'd highly recommend the Twilight Princess manga too, if you enjoy the game. All of the LoZ games have been adapted into manga, and it's the best outta all of em. 11 volumes in total, lots of characterization, it expands on the story and lore immensely, and ties in more subplot from the Hero of Time Link (OoT/MM).

Niiiiiiice. I'm glad you mentioned that. I knew it existed but I had only seen single volumes. I own OOT and Oracle. Those mangas are awesome.

 

[AJUMP23]

Great game congrats on completing it.

 

[Soodanim]

asset flip

 

[Stafford]

OOT is just as good today as it was when it released.

Don't sleep on Twilight Princess if you want something similar to OOT.

Yeah I would get on it right after finishing MM, but the problem is I don't have a Wii anymore, nor a Gamecube. I hate motion controls and getting a copy for Cube would be more money than I'm willing to spend on it. And I wonder how blurry it would look on my big screen TV. OOT and MM are via emulator after all.

Remaster for Switch (2) please.

 

[Stafford]

I completely forgot about Xbox Series and its dev mode, until on YouTube I saw a video of Twilight Princess running on Series S via emulator. It's the Wii version though and problematic because of the motion controls. Can anyone tell me if the Cube version works good via emulation? That could be the solution for me.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

That game was very enjoyable at the time it came out, it was a true adventure and a great experience in the world of video games as well as the media.

Malon is the beauty of the game.

 

[Rodolink]

Praise the greatest game ever made.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

 

[MAX PAYMENT]

It was truly incredible what they were able to achieve. Awesome game.

 

[Stafford]

Epic! I'm sad that I'm almost done with this.

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

Congrats! You chose well. My first Zelda game and only the second game on n64 I ever actually finished, after Mario. Dungeon design and sound was masterclass. The music still stands the test of time as some of the best, ever.

 

[Arachnid]

Replayed it a few years ago and yeah, it not just holds up, it's even better than most of the stuff coming out nowadays.

Consider all the stuff that's in the game: about 11 dungeons, each with it's own music, puzzles and great level design. Lots of side activities, a day night system, a fantastical but kinda mature at times story, lots of enemies and even horse riding in 1998, and all of this developed in what, 2 years?

OOT puts modern games to shame imo.


Played it for the first time earlier this year and had a great time! The timer can be a little bit annoying at the start, but once you get to play some more it's not so much of a chore. Amazing game for sure.

It's one of the few Zeldas I haven't played. I wasn't sure if it held up tbh

I'll give it a go

 

[gamer82]

just started this today on my 2ds i snagged from the bay never really finished this before and its been a while.

since my switch is gone i wanted something to tide me
Over till switch 2 .

Majors mask next if i manage to finish it. The old man tends to fall asleep these days

 

[Stafford]

Just finished Majora’s Mask. Absolutely awesome game!

Got all masks, admittedly with the help of a guide for one side quest, because had I not used a guide I wouldn’t have ever had that side quest because how am I supposed to know some of this stuff? Meaning the Kafei quest, solely, lol.

But that’s ok, for the main stuff I did that without a guide.

 

[CartesianMan]

Someone said, 'OOT is just as good today as it was when it was released.'

It’s not. It was a great game back then, even generational, but today it’s horribly outdated.

And that’s OK and normal. Make the way for something new.

 

[Feel Like I'm On 42]

I'm a 80s baby, 1982 to be precise and while me and my brother had the Nintendo 64 back then with of course OOT, we never finished it. In fact, we got stuck in the water temple and took a break, only to never return to it.

But as I always say, better late than never, right? It's amazing what a timeless game this proves to be and how ahead of its time it really was. The blocky visuals, the 4:3, framerate don't matter at all, it's the overall experience and it still works. Loved the temples with the puzzles, the ocarina itself, the characters, story, atmosphere, music.

It's when I was playing this that I once again realised that I miss actual hand crafted, unique temples/dungeons in Breath and Tears. Truly hope they bring that back, I don't mind a big open world, I mean OOT is open world, only on a smaller scale, and it's the unique locations that had me hooked. It's my game of the year, I don't give a fuck about "rules" as in it's not a game that released this year, but it trumps everything else I played.

Now I'm wondering if I should start with Majora's Mask right away or take a break for other games. It has a timer, right? Most of the time I hate it when games have that and that has me a bit reluctant, but I'll give it a chance.


Oh, and I still want a Zelda game looking like this, sheesh.

There's a reason it's the highest ranked game of all time on MetaCritic. The game is a masterpiece. It's a special game that I wish modern gamers and game developers would start moving back to in terms of design. It's jam packed with hand crafted real content, instead of the padded out fake content of modern games. Dungeons that blow away the sad excuse for what Botw and Tears calls dungeons. It's a game that doesn't HOLD PLAYERS HANDS and actually makes you THINK!

I was 17 years old when it came out and it was the most magical gaming experience I've ever had. I'll always consider it my favorite game of all time even though, until recently, I hadn't replayed it in almost 20 years and it definitely holds up. Wish Nintendo would start porting over the 4 games that were the peak of 3d Zelda, Ocarina and MM 3ds remakes and Wind Waker/Twighlight to Switch (or Switch 2).

I can't stress enough the magic of this game at the time. People had been waiting and hoping for the first 3d zelda. Game was delayed multiple times and felt like it was took forever to come out. Then it finally released and exceeded every expectation. Back on the N64 the graphics were also pretty much the best I'd seen. I was mesmerized waking up as Link in the Kokiri forest for the intro section. The music, the atmosphere, the controls and the joyfulness that only Nintendo knew how to do. Best game ever made given it's impact in 98.

 

[Feel Like I'm On 42]

Someone said, 'OOT is just as good today as it was when it was released.'

It’s not. It was a great game back then, even generational, but today it’s horribly outdated.

And that’s OK and normal. Make the way for something new.

Only things that are outdated are the camera and the visuals. Everything else holds up its just a different design philosophy, smaller scale and more linear than today's open world games. That doesn't make it "outdated" just not "modern". Developers would do well to go back to THAT style of game and try to refine it. They won't, because everything has to be open world and everything has to hold the players hand like crazy today.

 

[Stafford]

There's a reason it's the highest ranked game of all time on MetaCritic. The game is a masterpiece. It's a special game that I wish modern gamers and game developers would start moving back to in terms of design. It's jam packed with hand crafted real content, instead of the padded out fake content of modern games. Dungeons that blow away the sad excuse for what Botw and Tears calls dungeons. It's a game that doesn't HOLD PLAYERS HANDS and actually makes you THINK!

I was 17 years old when it came out and it was the most magical gaming experience I've ever had. I'll always consider it my favorite game of all time even though, until recently, I hadn't replayed it in almost 20 years and it definitely holds up. Wish Nintendo would start porting over the 4 games that were the peak of 3d Zelda, Ocarina and MM 3ds remakes and Wind Waker/Twighlight to Switch (or Switch 2).

I can't stress enough the magic of this game at the time. People had been waiting and hoping for the first 3d zelda. Game was delayed multiple times and felt like it was took forever to come out. Then it finally released and exceeded every expectation. Back on the N64 the graphics were also pretty much the best I'd seen. I was mesmerized waking up as Link in the Kokiri forest for the intro section. The music, the atmosphere, the controls and the joyfulness that only Nintendo knew how to do. Best game ever made given it's impact in 98.

Well said, man! I am so, so glad that last year I decided to fire up OOT and how soon it clicked again, and finally actually finishing it. If one game deserves to be finished, it's this.

100% agreed on how games need to go back to this. Bigger is NOT always better. It's crazy how ahead of its time that game was with the big open field and handcrafted dungeons. And Majora's Mask with NPCs actually having a daily schedule, I'm damn impressed.

Breath and Tears are good games but don't hold a candle to the greatness of Ocarina and Majora's Mask. Let them please bring everything to the next game that Breath and Tears lacked.

 

[Stafford]

I am continuing my Zelda streak.

Minish Cap!

 

[BlackTron]

Only things that are outdated are the camera and the visuals. Everything else holds up its just a different design philosophy, smaller scale and more linear than today's open world games. That doesn't make it "outdated" just not "modern". Developers would do well to go back to THAT style of game and try to refine it. They won't, because everything has to be open world and everything has to hold the players hand like crazy today.

Exactly why we're so dependent on remakes. Both posts will unironically age well when we get OOT remake, proving both that it's not outdated and that we're dependent on remakes lol.

 

[BlackTron]

Breath and Tears are good games but don't hold a candle to the greatness of Ocarina and Majora's Mask. Let them please bring everything to the next game that Breath and Tears lacked.

I've been waiting for a real new Zelda since Skyward Sword, which had deep flaws. I have enough timesink make your own adventure walking simulators, now deliver a Zelda game dammit. Adding all that content to make me feel like there was a reward for exploring the map (in the form of gameplay) would work wonders. An aspect of Zelda 1 rather important to its success I'd say...

 

[Maltosier]

Sadly I don't have a PC, do have a laptop but I doubt it's strong enough for emulators. I did see what Breath of the Wild for example can look like and play like with emulators on PC and it's crazy, but PC gaming I've left that behind many years ago.

I just wanted to mention that the PC port is not an emulator. It makes it so you run the game natively like it's a game made for PC. Meaning even some of the worst laptops can run it perfectly fine, perhaps without any extra mods added, which may make it more demanding.

I suggest trying it. Ship of Harkinian for OoT, and 2Ship2Harkinian is MM.

 

[Jsisto]

There’s something that feels almost otherworldly or ethereal about this game to me. About as perfect as a game can get. I’ve played it many times over the years and maybe it’s just the nostalgia but I can’t imagine it ever really being outdated. All the mechanics hold up. The only complaint I can think of it’s how tedious the item switching can be but that’s fairly minor.