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Phil Spencer: What you will see on July 23 is true creative freedom

I don't understand the phil hate? Guy made xbox profitable, has aquired a lot of studios to prepare for mext gen, makes all exclusives available on both pc and console. Turned the xbox brand from very anti consumer practices to being very consumer friendly, game pass destroys anything that sony has.
Sure his messaging may have been mixed the past few weeks but i believe he is passionate about the brand and wants to offer the best it can, so let's wait and see instead of raising the pitchforks. Next gen is just around the corner.
Phil represent progress, and they don't like it because they are scared.
 

M1chl

Currently Gif and Meme Champion
He’s such a good fluffer. I hope he comes to my house and personally sucks my dick before the July 23 reveal.
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Xbox is already putting out a lot of unique, quality, diverse games. Although smaller in scale, but focused on gameplay.

Ori Will of the Wisp
Microsoft Flight Simulator
Age of Empire
Minecraft Dungeons
Gears Tactics
Grounded

All released this year
Flight Simulator 2020 is probably the most next gen title yet among all consoles/pc. It uses something like 2 petabyte of geographic data to render the whole whole world in extremely high detail. They have handcrafted 80 of the world most popular airports to an extreme high detail. That game is just insanity and highly underated for what its doing. The game world is so accurate to real life that its is using actual current flight data & paths.

I've got a feeling it might be quickly adopted for flight training and practice for official use because the detail, graphics and sound is just insane.
 

Batiman

Banned
I always get overhyped but fuck it. I know MS gonna kill it Thursday. Bring on Halo and fable. Elden Ring is gonna be amazing too if they show it there. It’s time for Banjo to return as well even though I’m not expecting it

How long is this gonna be? Working on Thursday but want to get home and watch it hopefully without getting spoiled.
 
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oldergamer

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And we’re quick to forget he was Mattrick’s VP for all of the XB1 decisions. I’m not saying Spencer hasn’t achieved anything of consequence. He’s kept Xbox together in spite of it being ugly. But fans willfully avoid lobbing warranted criticism for how XGS has been managed during his tenure and the disaster they’ve been for this generation.
Spencer wasn't calling the shots, but he is now. You need to get over it, and see what he's done since he started running the division. Its gone from a disaster to something with a promising future and he has the full backing of the MS CEO to do whats needed. He's actually a gamer, and enjoys game culture. I couldn't say the same for mattrick or a few other that have been in similar positions.
 

DeaDPo0L84

Member
Honestly at this point just show me cool shit I can play on my PC. All this talk is honestly just annoying at this point. Make a clear strong case for your brand on the 23rd and stop as all these daily fucking interviews.

Also if you have a genuine emotional investment in a plastic box and say stuff like "oh playstation gamers are gonna get served on the 23rd" you're a fucking idiot and have to be 12 years or younger.
 

Mr.ODST

Member
Halo better blow my fucking eyeballs out

Either way what Spencer has done for the Xbox brand has been great and you can tell everything he has done is to be gearing up for this generation to hopefully give Xbox a true reboot.

Can't wait!
 

The Alien

Banned
The event should be good. I was a little disappointed Greenberg said the show was only gonna be about an hour...so I'll have to check my entitlement.

I'm pretty confident XBox will bring great games this gen...and be the best place to play multiplats.

Lastly, i know this ain't a prediction thread, buy fuck it: (this would make for a solid show)

1st Party Games shown:
Halo Infinite, Fable, Forza Motorsports, Obsidian RPG, Perfect Dark, Everwild, Hellblade 2

3rd Party Games shown:
Cyberpunk, AC Valhalla, Elden Ring
(Have marketing deals for all 3)
 
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Mr.ODST

Member
The event should be good. I was a little disappointed Greenberg said the show was only gonna be about an hour...so I'll have to check my entitlement.

I'm pretty confident XBox will bring great games this gen...and be the best place to play multiplats.

Lastly, i know this ain't a prediction thread, buy fuck it: (this would make for a solid show)

1st Party Games shown:
Halo Infinite, Fable, Forza Motorsports, Obsidian RPG, Perfect Dark, Everwild

3rd Party Games shown:
Cyberpunk, AC Valhalla, Elden Ring
(Have marketing deals for all 3)

Supposedly there is third party reveals etc in the preshow as its going to be an hour before the main presentation?

Not sure but Aaron said to check the preshow out for more stuff.
 
Xbox is already putting out a lot of unique, quality, diverse games. Although smaller in scale, but focused on gameplay.

Ori Will of the Wisp
Microsoft Flight Simulator
Age of Empire
Minecraft Dungeons
Gears Tactics
Grounded

All released this year
These are very different games that aren't all the same single player 3rd person story based action adventure. I also think back to how different their older games are too with quantum break, Sunset, ryse, SoT, bleeding edge, recore, etc. They are going for diverse and supporting whatever the devs want to do. If they want to make another We Happy Few instead of an Uncharted type game in size and quality, they'll support that.
 
Phil represents the direction Xbox is heading. If you like where it is going then I guess you can call it progress, but by that same token you could call Google Stadia "progress" too.
Who is scared? This sounds so fucking childish and dumb. I'm hoping you have an intelligent response, my expectations are low.
Honestly at this point just show me cool shit I can play on my PC. All this talk is honestly just annoying at this point. Make a clear strong case for your brand on the 23rd and stop as all these daily fucking interviews.

Also if you have a genuine emotional investment in a plastic box and say stuff like "oh playstation gamers are gonna get served on the 23rd" you're a fucking idiot and have to be 12 years or younger.
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DeaDPo0L84

Member

Guess my low expectations for an intelligent response should've been lowered. You're replying to someone who probably has more hours with 1st party Xbox games and Playstation games than you. I'm just tired of the childish gamefaq level posting. Grow up, discuss shit, be excited for great games on ALL platforms. Quit making dumb ass comments that sound like you live in your basement while you yell at your mom to heat you up a hot pocket.
 
Guess my low expectations for an intelligent response should've been lowered. You're replying to someone who probably has more hours with 1st party Xbox games and Playstation games than you. I'm just tired of the childish gamefaq level posting. Grow up, discuss shit, be excited for great games on ALL platforms. Quit making dumb ass comments that sound like you live in your basement while you yell at your mom to heat you up a hot pocket.
But i didn't mention Playstation didn't i ?
Here is the post you quoted me for :
Phil represent progress, and they don't like it because they are scared.
People criticizing every tiny thing phil says/does are scared, i didn't said Sony fanboys didn't i ?
Who is scared? This sounds so fucking childish and dumb. I'm hoping you have an intelligent response, my expectations are low.
Honestly at this point just show me cool shit I can play on my PC. All this talk is honestly just annoying at this point. Make a clear strong case for your brand on the 23rd and stop as all these daily fucking interviews.

Also if you have a genuine emotional investment in a plastic box and say stuff like "oh playstation gamers are gonna get served on the 23rd" you're a fucking idiot and have to be 12 years or younger.
By the quality of your posts, you clearly seem like a civilized grown adult who's not living in his moms basement.
Quit making dumb ass comments that sound like you live in your basement while you yell at your mom to heat you up a hot pocket.
Are you discribing yourself ? i'm confused.
You clearly started to have remorse, cmon man it's your mom.
 

reinking

Gold Member
I like Xbox and I like Phil but damned if that did not read like an advert for xCloud. (Which I also like and currently show off at work).
 

DeaDPo0L84

Member
But i didn't mention Playstation didn't i ?
Here is the post you quoted me for :

People criticizing every tiny thing phil says/does are scared, i didn't said Sony fanboys didn't i ?


By the quality of your posts, you clearly seem like a civilized grown adult who's not living in his moms basement.

Are you discribing yourself ? i'm confused.
You clearly started to have remorse, cmon man it's your mom.

It's obvious you were referencing Sony playstation fans, to pretend you weren't is asinine.

Assuming I'm not a civilized adult because I want people to not post saying people are SCARED of videogame execs saying shit is quite ironic.

I'm actually doing quite well at 36 years of age. I play on all platforms,if you look at my previous post in Xbox threads it's generally positive with constructive criticism. I have receipts too that show I have no horse in this race, I want each company to do their best.

But saying things like what you say is ridiculous and doesn't invite conversation. Guess you accomplished something cause you got me to respond.

It just seems there's a huge influx of threads about next-gen stuff whether it's rumors/hypotheticals/or even facts, while it can be fun to discuss a lot of times people get personal and fanboyish to a point that it's annoying and bothersome and usually derails threads (which I contributed to on this thread,I apologize)

Obviously I can just ignore it and move in but I'd like to genuinely discuss everything going on but post like yours saying people are scared of Phil ruin any chance of that cause it's made with intent of getting a reaction.

Edit: also I dont wanna keep derailing this thread cause we're not even discussing the topic at this point. Agree to disagree and move on. I hope the rest of your day goes great 👍
 
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J____Av

Member
MS basically handed Sony the generation with the hubris of the original Xbox One strategy. To see them now in such a great position

The Xbox brand is undeniably the weakest its been in a very long time right now. They may be doing some good things, but they have a LONG way to go before they can reach the heights of the first half of the 360 days. It will be very tough. Especially since its unlikely Sony will have a blunder like the PS3 launch next gen. Which was the biggest reason the 360 took off
 
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CitizenX

Banned
The Xbox brand is undeniably the weakest its been in a very long time right now. They may be doing some good things, but they have a LONG way to go before they can reach the heights of the first half of the 360 days. It will be very tough. Especially since its unlikely Sony will have a blunder like the PS3 launch next gen. Which was the biggest reason the 360 took off

Its been weak for 15 years. They HAVE to give away their exclusives for $15 just to survive.
 
Spencer wasn't calling the shots, but he is now. You need to get over it, and see what he's done since he started running the division. Its gone from a disaster to something with a promising future and he has the full backing of the MS CEO to do whats needed. He's actually a gamer, and enjoys game culture. I couldn't say the same for mattrick or a few other that have been in similar positions.
Your post reinforces my argument that the commonly accepted viewpoint is that everyone prefers to praise Spencer and otherwise avoid acknowledging his failings, in spite of the fact that there are plenty instances in both column A and column B. It all seems steeped in this belief that “at least he’s not Mattrick.”
 
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oldergamer

Member
Your post reinforces my argument that the commonly accepted viewpoint is that everyone prefers to praise Spencer and otherwise avoid acknowledging his failings, in spite of the fact that there are plenty instances in both column A and column B. It all seems steeped in this belief that “at least he’s not Mattrick.”
You have no clue what his failures are because you dont know what decisions by him vs others above him. Its beyond "at least he isnt mattrick" but you refuse to see that and are dead set trying to find fault. Looking at the decisions made since he was in charge are all that matters up to today imo.
 
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People can hate all they want but when it comes to gaming, MS in 2020 is vastly, vastly better company than in previous years, if not decades.

All that remains is for their studios to now deliver world class games.
It's true. And the failures of the Xbox One's hardware created an Xbox division that was much more consumer friendly from it's 360 days. I mean on the 360, you had to pay for gold just to use Netflix.
 

Quezacolt

Member
Phil talks a lot, but so far has shown little. Let's hope the games will surprise us, no matter how powerful their box is, if their first party output is the same mess as this gen, then there's really no reason to get an xbox.
 

Vaelka

Member
I am just hoping to see at least one game that is something different than the standard typical AAA game.
It's something that really annoys me about Sony exclusives too how almost all of them go so hard in on photorealism, if they showed me some more stylized games I'd get way more excited.
People always bring up Spiderman but that's not what I mean...
Heck I'd even take something in the style of DMC if it had the same tone and deep combat system, I'd be able to put up with the realistic graphics then too.

I'll just be really disappointed if the games they come out with are basically just the same as the Sony exclusives and the characters all just look like scanned actors and the combat is really slow and bogged down by the '' realism '' and '' cinematic ''feel.
I'd like to see something inbetween Nintendo and Sony.
 

The Alien

Banned
Supposedly there is third party reveals etc in the preshow as its going to be an hour before the main presentation?

Not sure but Aaron said to check the preshow out for more stuff.
Last week Greenberg (or just XBox) said the entire week would have vids or info dumps, but no schedule was released(at least that I saw). Now there's a pre show?

Thanks...I'll have to do some sleuthing.

Supposedly one of the "World Premieres" is Elden Ring gameplay. Supposedly.

I'd like to see deep dive shows for each of those in separate days and leave the showcase on Thursday for just 1st party (especially if it's only 1hour long).
 
Phil talks a lot, but so far has shown little. Let's hope the games will surprise us, no matter how powerful their box is, if their first party output is the same mess as this gen, then there's really no reason to get an xbox.
If? Dude, like they've acquired over 7 studios in the past few years. Playground, Obisidian, Ninja Theory, InXile, Double Fine, The Initiative, Compulsion,etc and still looking.... How would it be like current gen?
 
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Moriah20

Member
I really hope MS finally delivers on the talks; I understand it takes years to develop games but I feel that they've been saying the same shit for the past 4 years now with very little to show for it when it comes to actual games. The ecosystem stuff is fantastic, but ultimately games are the most important. Halo on its own definitely wont be enough this time around.
 
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