I don't disagree with you. I've just seen this debate for a while now; whether it's arguing (poorly) that every action worth doing should come with reward (xp), or that people don't feel it makes logical sense to reward certain action xp and not others. I'm all for interesting conservations of CRPG mechanics and related topics but I think there are more important things to be discussed.
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Pillars of Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment (Kickstarter) [Up: Teaser]
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True. Anyway I'm sure someone will mod the game and give me my kill XP anyway.
I prefer systems that either do not grant combat XP at all, systems that grant combat xp but offer much higher rewards for non-violent solutions, or systems that grant combat xp but much larger rewards for completing quests.
In all three systems the combat is at a lower priority to the solution as a whole. I appreciate RPGs where the focus is on completion rather than conquest.
That said, I will still roll with games that reward XP for kills or the completion of combat. It's a very loose preference as long as the game doesn't force me to grind combat to progress.
In all three systems the combat is at a lower priority to the solution as a whole. I appreciate RPGs where the focus is on completion rather than conquest.
That said, I will still roll with games that reward XP for kills or the completion of combat. It's a very loose preference as long as the game doesn't force me to grind combat to progress.
Sentenza
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It's the best design decision they've made since the beginning.
"Goal driven" exp reward is brilliant. And not even that risky and experimental, since it was already used successfully in that awesome cult classic known as Vampire Bloodlines.
If anything I was baffled that no one so far was stealing the idea.
Pyros_Eien
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I guess the potential issue is when you want to get a little bit of xp to level up to make the current quests easier or what not, but can't go grind some bears to finally slay those beetles. Objective/completion xp means you need to actually do larger bits of content to get a reward and advance progression.
That said not a big deal depending on balance and stuff, and having non combat resolution means you could just try to find a non combat sidequest to do to get that little bit of xp, instead of the typical "let's go grinding by annihilating the local fauna boys".
Also leads to a more consistent experience. In Divinity for example, the most efficient way to do stuff is to first do the non combat resolution to get the xp from that, then kill the stuff anyway to also get the xp from that. Feels a bit weird. Don't have to obviously but you lose on a lot of xp and item if you don't kill stuff but also generally lose on a lot of xp if you choose the combat resolution from the start.
That said not a big deal depending on balance and stuff, and having non combat resolution means you could just try to find a non combat sidequest to do to get that little bit of xp, instead of the typical "let's go grinding by annihilating the local fauna boys".
Also leads to a more consistent experience. In Divinity for example, the most efficient way to do stuff is to first do the non combat resolution to get the xp from that, then kill the stuff anyway to also get the xp from that. Feels a bit weird. Don't have to obviously but you lose on a lot of xp and item if you don't kill stuff but also generally lose on a lot of xp if you choose the combat resolution from the start.
Sentenza
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Not necessarily.
Goal-driven XP doesn't work like "you will complete this long questline and THEN we'll handle few XP to you".
It's typically more fragmented, something like "gathering the right item at the right time, killing the right creature or achieving any given pre-established goal will translate in XP points for you".
"Goals" aren't necessarily big achievements, they can include a vast variety of small accomplishments.
While you don't get XP for killing enemies in general, you may get exp by killing creatures when they count as a goal.
For instance chances are that finding that secret, well-hidden and very powerful enemy will count as a "goal" and reward you with exp.
WHere did you see the button? In the "Products" page?
Yeah, at the time the site wasn't fully loaded. It was just text and links but I saw two Generate Code buttons one I assume was for Wasteland 2. Now that I think about it, it probably still isn't live but just some code hidden until the beta is released.
hemtae
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$25 for the beta addon
A player on Twitch is just about to start a new game after one of the quests couldn't be completed (bug).
http://www.twitch.tv/dougul
http://www.twitch.tv/dougul
a couple of hours into the beta, I'm having a stupid amount of fun - Bugs, balancing issues and all.
I really like the content - Nothing blew me away so far, I didn't see anything BG2-level yet in terms of quality of the quests or interactions, but that's to be expected of a small side-village.It is very good, and reminds me very much of BG1 actually.
What are your impressions guys?
I really like the content - Nothing blew me away so far, I didn't see anything BG2-level yet in terms of quality of the quests or interactions, but that's to be expected of a small side-village.It is very good, and reminds me very much of BG1 actually.
What are your impressions guys?
Watching streams because I don't have the Beta add-on.
Models are extremely mediocre. Portraits (for the generic, pre-set party) are "eeeeeh".
But everything else is gorgeous. I also hope there is more variety for item icons in menus (can't tell what's what).
Also, I hope commands don't queue. That'd be terrible in a game where the real-time seems to progress pretty damn quickly.
foobarry81
Member
Recently I couldn't help but notice that news about Pillars had been slowing down since the beta went out. The idea of the game being delayed crossed my mind. My fears have become a reality, it seems.
http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/68878-pillars-of-eternity-early-2015-beta-feedback-and-game-polish/
http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/68877-delayed-to-early-2015/
I know the game will be better for it, but I was looking forward to playing this sooner rather than later
Edit: Someone already made a thread about this, herpaderp http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=905564&highlight=pillars
http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/68878-pillars-of-eternity-early-2015-beta-feedback-and-game-polish/
http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/68877-delayed-to-early-2015/
I know the game will be better for it, but I was looking forward to playing this sooner rather than later
Edit: Someone already made a thread about this, herpaderp http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=905564&highlight=pillars
Human Resources
Member
I didn't see this on GAF anywhere, but the update e-mail I received today lists the official release date!
They also posted a video of a leads meeting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NGNXOAdkd0&feature=youtu.be
I guess all tech jobs are similar, even when they are different industries.
I do nothing near as exciting as develop games and yet this is supremely familiar to me.
I guess all tech jobs are similar, even when they are different industries.
I do nothing near as exciting as develop games and yet this is supremely familiar to me.
hemtae
Member
Saw on the Obsidian forums that the latest version of the backer beta included the orchestral version of the main theme.
Pillars of Eternity orchestral main theme
Pillars of Eternity orchestral main theme