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[SniperHunter]

I think this the third case of pilot suicide, the other two being Egypt Air 990 and Silk Air 185. Both those incidents were horrific

Mozambique Plane Crash 'Deliberately' Caused by Pilot
The Mozambican Airlines plane that crashed in November was "deliberately" brought down by the pilot, an initial investigation by aviation authorities has revealed.

Joao Abreu, the chief of the Mozambican Civil Aviation Institute (IACM), said Captain Herminio dos Santos Fernandes caused the crash.

The crash of flight TM470, which involved an Embraer 190 aircraft built in October 2012, killed all 33 people on board - six crew members and 27 passengers, most of them Angolans and Mozambicans, though Chinese, French, Portuguese and Brazilian nationals also perished.

Preliminary reports suggest the captain of the flight, from the Mozambican capital Maputo to Angola's Luanda, locked himself in the cockpit and ignored warning calls during the final moments of flight.

"During these actions you can hear low and high-intensity alarm signals and repeated beating against the door with demands to come into the cockpit," Abreu told the state-run news agency AIM.

The authorities have refused to speculate on the pilot's motives, as the investigation continues.

Dos Santos Fernandes had clocked more than 9,000 flying hours and had cleared a medical examination in September 2013.

Mozambican Airlines is one of several carriers in the southeast African country that have been banned from European airspace since 2011 over safety concerns.

 

[YoungHav]

what if he died from a heart attack or something? Hence the non-response?

 

[NinjaBoiX]

what if he died from a heart attack or something? Hence the non-response?

Why did he lock himself in the cockpit? It sounds intentional.

 

[Steelrain]

what if he died from a heart attack or something? Hence the non-response?

I figure the data recorder would be able to tell if someone was manipulating the controls. He did lock himself inside too... Where was the co-pilot?

 

[SniperHunter]

what if he died from a heart attack or something? Hence the non-response?

This article doesnt state some other facts. He passed a health check up in September.
He changed the altitude from 30,000 ft to below ground level. He also changed the speed and did something to the flaps

 

[Deleted member 1235]

what if he died from a heart attack or something? Hence the non-response?

I imagine the recorder maybe caught something if they are this sure to put it in an article?

 

[NinjaBoiX]

Yeah, presumably the black box picked up inputs to the controls right up until impact.

 

[Naked Snake]

This makes me more worried of flying than accidents or terrorists.

 

[Arkanius]

This pilot was a friend and co-worker of my best friend.
He still can't believe it was suicide.

 

[GameAddict411]

where is the co-pilot? did he kill him before crashing the plane?

 

[Erehtih]

God this is awful. Great story to start the morning..

 

[youngwerther]

I have to fly tomorrow.

 

[SniperHunter]

This pilot was a friend and co-worker of my best friend.
He still can't believe it was suicide.

Wow. Was he depressed? What can you tell us?

 

[Ryaaan14]

This pilot was a friend and co-worker of my best friend.
He still can't believe it was suicide.

God damn. Crazy

 

[Steelrain]

I have to fly tomorrow.

I have a flight in 3 hours

I already hate flying over the ocean but this just adds to my anxiety. I just have to take comfort in the fact that JAL is a very safe airline.

 

[SniperHunter]

I have a flight in 3 hours

I already hate flying over the ocean but this just adds to my anxiety. I just have to take comfort in the fact that JAL is a very safe airline.

Try reading up on Egypt Air 990. Everytime i see egypt air at Pearson, i get chills

 

[Naked Snake]

Try reading up on Egypt Air 990. Everytime i see egypt air at Pearson, i get chills

Oh man, I feel sick.

 

[Steelrain]

Try reading up on Egypt Air 990. Everytime i see egypt air at Pearson, i get chills

I think I saw that story on an episode of that Air Disaster show that used to run on Discovery....

Terrifying.

I should have never watched that show. I used to be a calm flyer. Now I just break into cold sweats when the plane bumps even a little bit

 

[IdreamofHIME]

Yup, I'm never flying again.

 

[dan2026]

Was there no co-pilot?

How did this even happen?

 

[ponpo]

Awaiting probably-disturbing cockpit audio recordings (´･_･`)

 

[Steelrain]

Was there no co-pilot?

How did this even happen?

I'm guessing the captain either waited for the co-pilot to use the bathroom or got him out of the cockpit by asking him to do some minor task.

 

[ICKE]

I think this the third case of pilot suicide, the other two being Egypt Air 990 and Silk Air 185. Both those incidents were horrific

There is no substantive evidence that Egypt Air 990 was a suicide, this theory was mostly circulated in American news for some reason. I think it was based on the translation (he said "I entrust myself on God" as the plane came down) among other things. No links with extremist groups were found, he was not active politically, nor did anyone of his relatives mention any mental problems.

 

[Ty4on]

Edit: ^^^^Singaporean authorities also don't believe Silk Air was suicide.

I think I saw that story on an episode of that Air Disaster show that used to run on Discovery....

Terrifying.

I should have never watched that show. I used to be a calm flyer. Now I just break into cold sweats when the plane bumps even a little bit

Has the opposite effect on me TBH. They're like crime stories trying to find the solution, but it is rarely a design flaw that can affect me. Most of the time they show all the redundancies.

The aircraft crashed gear up, and all passengers had been prepared for an emergency, as they were strapped into their seats.[14] No distress calls were made prior to the crash.[2] Despite the struggles of both pilots to save the aircraft, it was later concluded that if they had just let go of the control column, the autopilot would have automatically taken action to prevent stalling, thus avoiding the accident.[11]

Being afraid of your pilot taking suicide to me sounds like being afraid of a meteorite hitting you. It can happen, but so can a lot of unlikely stuff.

 

[SniperHunter]

There is no substantive evidence that Egypt Air 990 was a suicide, that conspiracy was only circulated in American news for some reason. I think it was mostly based on the translation, he said "I rely on God" as the plane came down.

It was suicide proved by NSA. Pilot in charge was a pervert, out of respect and age others called him captain but he was just a co pilot.

it was his last international flight after he sexually advanced on a maid (one of many incidents).

When the captain made it back to the cockpit, the suicidal fellow didnt say a word, he kept repeating "i rely on god" while the captain asked him questions. In the recent air france crash the incompetent co pilot called the captain back and tried to trouble shoot the problem by commubicating

 

[gofreak]

Why did he lock himself in the cockpit? It sounds intentional.

Aren't cockpits locked now as a matter of course, post 9-11? If so I'm curious what they mean by 'locked himself in the cockpit'.

 

[Ty4on]

It was suicide proved by NSA. Pilot in charge was a pervert, out of respect and age others called him captain but he was just a co pilot.

it was his last international flight after he sexually advanced on a maid (one of many incidents).

When the captain made it back to the cockpit, the suicidal fellow didnt say a word, he kept repeating "i rely on god" while the captain asked him questions. In the recent air france crash the incompetent co pilot called the captain back and tried to trouble shoot the problem by commubicating

IIRC a different episode of a different crash in Egypt centered around the high status of pilots in Egypt and how the captain was rarely questioned.

The Egyptian cause doesn't make much sense either (a rare fault not confirmed/suggested by any evidence), but it wasn't proven. Silk Air was spooky though:

The cockpit voice recorder and flight data recorder stopped recording minutes before the abrupt descent, but not at the same time. A technical analysis of the sound signature of a CVR circuit breaker trip, as recorded by the CVR, was carried out by investigators and the evidence showed that the CVR stoppage was consistent with being manually initiated. The radio continued to work after the failure of the recorders, which indicates that power failure was not the cause.

 

[SniperHunter]

IIRC a different episode of a different crash in Egypt centered around the high status of pilots in Egypt and how the captain was rarely questioned.

The Egyptian cause doesn't make much sense either (a rare fault not confirmed/suggested by any evidence), but it wasn't proven. Silk Air was spooky though:

Both were very spooky...mainly because the pilots in both cases put the nose down and came down like a rock from 30,000 ft. I cant imagine what the passengers went through.

 

[Steelrain]

Both were very spooky...mainly because the pilots in both cases put the nose down and came down like a rock from 30,000 ft. I cant imagine what the passengers went through.

Fuuuuuuu. The stuff of nightmares right there.

 

[Gallbaro]

All the more reason to leave the computers to themselves.

 

[SniperHunter]

Fuuuuuuu. The stuff of nightmares right there.

It really is

I will never understand the need for killing others while commiting suicide. SO sad

 

[someday]

I think I saw that story on an episode of that Air Disaster show that used to run on Discovery....

Terrifying.

I should have never watched that show. I used to be a calm flyer. Now I just break into cold sweats when the plane bumps even a little bit

I've been watching these on the Smithsonian channel. The idea of flying has never been less appealing. I doesn't help that one of my closest friends is an engineer at Boeing.

 

[infinityBCRT]

It was suicide proved by NSA. Pilot in charge was a pervert, out of respect and age others called him captain but he was just a co pilot.

it was his last international flight after he sexually advanced on a maid (one of many incidents).

When the captain made it back to the cockpit, the suicidal fellow didnt say a word, he kept repeating "i rely on god" while the captain asked him questions. In the recent air france crash the incompetent co pilot called the captain back and tried to trouble shoot the problem by commubicating

"Tawakkalt ala Allah" is like the equivalent of saying "Dear God, Help me". It's not a suicide statement.

 

[SniperHunter]

"Tawakkalt ala Allah" is like the equivalent of saying "Dear God, Help me". It's not a suicide statement.

The facts say otherwise bro. HE isolated himself in the cockpit, turned off the engines and put the nose down..
He didnt call for help and didnt answer the captain. Guy was an evil lunatic

In a situation like that you call the crew and captain asap, not god

 

[GungHo]

Why did he lock himself in the cockpit? It sounds intentional.

I'd figure that was standard protocol these days.

When the captain made it back to the cockpit, the suicidal fellow didnt say a word, he kept repeating "i rely on god" while the captain asked him questions. In the recent air france crash the incompetent co pilot called the captain back and tried to trouble shoot the problem by commubicating

Is there some reason the captain couldn't have locked the guy's controls out and taken over the auxilliary flight controls, or was this a plane with only one stick?

 

[SniperHunter]

I'd figure that was standard protocol these days.


Is there some reason the captain couldn't have locked the guy's controls out and taken over the auxilliary flight controls, or was this a plane with only one stick?

the captain was fighting insane g forces. The fact that he made it to the cockit surprised a lot of people. The captain managed to recover it for a bit.

 

[Ty4on]

Is there some reason the captain couldn't have locked the guy's controls out and taken over the auxilliary flight controls, or was this a plane with only one stick?

He didn't know what was going on and tried to rise the nose.

The Captain repeatedly stated, "Pull with me" but the FDR data indicated that the elevator surfaces remained in a split condition (with the left surface commanding nose up and the right surface commanding nose down) until the FDR and CVR stopped recording.

 

[StopMakingSense]

Try reading up on Egypt Air 990. Everytime i see egypt air at Pearson, i get chills

Nah, Air France still skeeves me out more.

 

[Casimir]

I think I saw that story on an episode of that Air Disaster show that used to run on Discovery....

Terrifying.

I should have never watched that show. I used to be a calm flyer. Now I just break into cold sweats when the plane bumps even a little bit

Remember, don't unbuckle your seat belt.

 

[DrM]

I should have never watched that show. I used to be a calm flyer. Now I just break into cold sweats when the plane bumps even a little bit

Two of my friends did that before their transatlantic flight. Well, they watched the whole marathon on Discovery day prior their quite bumpy 6 hour flight. Fellow passenger asked them if they are sick or why are they so pale after each turbolence

 

[Frost_Ace]

This is fucking terrifying.

 

[blackflag]

It was suicide proved by NSA. Pilot in charge was a pervert, out of respect and age others called him captain but he was just a co pilot.

it was his last international flight after he sexually advanced on a maid (one of many incidents).

When the captain made it back to the cockpit, the suicidal fellow didnt say a word, he kept repeating "i rely on god" while the captain asked him questions. In the recent air france crash the incompetent co pilot called the captain back and tried to trouble shoot the problem by commubicating

Plus wasn't the guy that demoted him on the plane or was that BS?

 

[Stinkles]

Edit: ^^^^Singaporean authorities also don't believe Silk Air was suicide.

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Being afraid of your pilot taking suicide to me sounds like being afraid of a meteorite hitting you. It can happen, but so can a lot of unlikely stuff.

oh wow I have a recurring dream about this exact thing. I bet I saw this image before. It's too close for coincidence.

 

[Arkanius]

Wow. Was he depressed? What can you tell us?

No one believes in the report. Between LAM and Embraer, the pilot is the weakest link to put the blame on.

 

[chickdigger802]

Sounds like something on Fringe

 

[caramac]

There's a few ariel shots of the crash site and some pictures of the wreckage here.

http://avherald.com/h?article=46c3abde&opt=0

 

[Tim the Wiz]

No one believes in the report. Between LAM and Embraer, the pilot is the weakest link to put the blame on.

This sounds like reasonable speculation. It's very possible the airline paid a bribe to someone in the national aviation authority to avoid liability. I mean, it's right there in the article in the OP:

Mozambican Airlines is one of several carriers in the southeast African country that have been banned from European airspace since 2011 over safety concerns.

 

[akira28]

I want to see his Mandrake Air flight record. Something happened up there, to this man, and I intend to find out what.

 

[Salmonax]

No one believes in the report. Between LAM and Embraer, the pilot is the weakest link to put the blame on.

Makes sense. Blaming the pilot would be the tidiest way to cover anything up.

 

[Pau]

Why did I read this three hours before getting on a plane.