isaacnukem
Member
Is this for real? Also this is the first time I'm hearing that this is role madness.
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Pineapple Pizza Mafia |OT| The War On Fruit Pizza
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isaacnukem
Member
Roger, sorry, and thanks!
Wow if those posts can't possibly be from town I don't know what the hell we'll classify Blarg's as once he appears.
Why are you so confident to call BlackBuzzards and Sawneeks town
Blarg is interesting in that he always swaps his playstyle rapidly every game, even if it looks like he just creates random chaos every time. I'll judge him once I get actual posts from him.
Someone's jumping to conclusions. You do remember you stated a blanket statement about how you can't see any of the posts coming from town including mine right? I know my alignment so by default I know your statement is wrong.
isaacnukem
Member
Well you said "if those posts can't possibly be from town", does that only include your posts or that other person's posts too?
You know your own alignment, therefore your interactions with BlackBuzzards weren't forced, therefore BlackBuzzards isolated interactions with Sawneeks weren't forced. This is all rational to you? You are confident enough to become territorial of another player (I didn't vote for you), because of those connections?
It was a blanket statement regarding the whole exchange and accusing it all of being fabricated. I know my statements were not which invalidates their statement. That's all I know.
Where did I say anything of the sort? Burb implies my posts and BlackBuzzard's posts are forced. You agree and say neither of our posts seem town and then throw in Sawneeks as well. I state that I know your conclusion is wrong because I am town. You then jump to saying I'm defending Sawneeks or BlackBuzzard or both. Not sure how you arrived at that conclusion other than grasping at straws.
30yearsofhurt
Member
Oh, okay.
Yay for town. That's some good blatant town talk. Nope, nothing sus here.
isaacnukem
Member
I for one, like to coast.
hey_monkey
Banned
Sure, let's start this game by getting hung up on minute nonsense. It helps so much and never results in bad town choices.
New folks: what do you look for on day one in games in general?
New folks: what do you look for on day one in games in general?
Like a 5.5 to a 6, enough to give make me raise an eyebrow but not enough to be lighting a torch. yet.
Why did you direct this at me specifically? Also, your thoughts on it?
I see we're all answering questions for each other now. :x
lol
Hi Darryl, it's been a while. Can you explain your vote on me? Because I get your suspicion on BB and Natiko in their interactions but I'm lost on how Burb asking me a question results in your vote.
thanks
This feels like a halfhearted deflection :x
I asked you because I always have the hardest time making any sort of solid read about you, so I wanted to get some first direct input about you.
And something about that conversation bothers me right now. It felt artificial, creating some sort of deflection between two people out of nothing.
More a commentary on the meta focusing on lynching anyone that makes noise lately. The fact that I take some time at the beginning of the game with no info to work off of to goof around a bit and you see people chomping at the bit to single it out already. I can't imagine the perspectives of Blarg or kyan who get lynched based on their posting style regardless of the substance.
hey_monkey
Banned
Anyone who makes noise, employs a different strategy, says things in a way that someone else wouldn't say, etc., etc. At least, this is what I've observed so far in my limited experience. Then there are some people who get away with things others can't. That's weird, too.
But I mean, humans are weird. Some of them put fruit on pizza, even, like goddamned barbarians.
30yearsofhurt
Member
Please elaborate my furry friend..
30yearsofhurt
Member
It was minute nonsense that town missed in anime mafia.
Fair enough.
The conversation does feel forced/awkward but I don't know if it's just the way it's worded or how their back-and-forth is and I don't know what to, if anything, gain from it. I also kinda feel like it's worth noting that Nat did open the game with a joke vote on BB for his pre-game post which also leaves me scratching my head. If this is all artificial I'm not sure I would understand the joke-vote leading into the forced argument in such a short amount of time, that just seems incredibly brash to me.
Well if Kyan's perspective is anything to go off of: it's very annoying.
It's also not even 6 hours into Day 1 and no one has voted for you over this so I'm not sure where you're getting this lynching aspect from. We have an entire Day Phase left and not even half of the player roster has even checked in yet. The only thing that happened is Burb made a note of it and then Darryl ( plus comments from a few others ) came in and ran with it, not even voting for you during that process.
You can at least understand that in a sea of joke posts when something weird happens people will take note of it, right? :x
People who stir the pot *eyesemoji*. In all seriousness, I'm not really looking out for anything in particular. Is there even anything of substance to ascertain at this point? It's all pointing fingers and getting antsy as discussed above.
30yearsofhurt
Member
Hey MoonKid, yeah D1 lynches tend to have nothing better to go off. It's all fingerpointing to see if anyone behaves 'funny' supposedly.
BTW You a kiwi?
Yup, Korean-Kiwi to be exact. I actually got my citizenship just the other week, bit overdue since I've been here pretty much my entire life.
30yearsofhurt
Member
Hey congrats.
Well, I read Burbeting's message to you a little different. It actually felt provocative to me, rather than a friendly probe for information. Right, so let's assume that those two really did have forced-feeling interactions. Well - why do people have reactions that feel forced? Stuff like that - really the sensation of being forced, is usually the result of a organized game plan where the action isn't natural because nobody is going off their intuition, but is instead overly crafting their responses according to some other criteria. So, if they were forced, then it was probably a group gambit, well else did they drag in? Here is some really forced feeling interactions between Sawneeks and BB.
I thought Burbeting was making some really fantastic leaps with his intuition. I thought that was next-level stuff, but I guess not. Now that this has come to pass - if he wasn't thinking this route, I'm not sure why he didn't say anything and instead took a bystander (post verifying his thought process was not along this route) position when I probed along his thought process. As, during my probing, he had just this to say:
A very funny response during all of this. "I'll judge Blarg when I see his posts", coming from someone who first voted for Blarg. It's always suspicious to me when someone creates a line of thinking and then lets someone else take the lead on it.
To clarify at no point did I say people were waiting to lynch me or anything. I simply said look at how fast people started singling it out as "forced" "artificial" etc. I just felt it was a good moment to point out people already following the same logic that has lost town a LOT of games lately. It's D1 and there's not much to talk about so I get it, but that same reasoning is why I've been cavalier with my posts. D1's are a crapshoot until maybe the last 12 hours and even then it's still usually pretty flimsy.
In what way? Do all the new(er) players know what role madness means?
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Role_Madness
You know what? I was considering this anyway, but this kinda reinforces my thought.
I'm the Vanilla Townie.
My bolded(slightly paraphrased) role name says i'm a casual pizza lover who only has it like once a month. That's basically the only difference between my role PM and the sample one, which can be found here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=236829534&postcount=1
Why would I claim?
1. It's low risk for town at this point, and gives everyone something solid to react to today.
2. Egotistical, but this increases my odds of not being Night Killed, and I'm better than average at scum hunting on our actual day phases. Assuming I'm telling the truth and haven't gone full Dusk.
3. I hate D1.
4. Fuck it.
I got lynched with you for being too jumpy, so I'm instead going to eat French bread pizzas and put more thought into my shitty posts.
Recent history makes me disinclined to trust anything but my own scum hunting.
ahh fuck it I can't stop myself from shitposting aaaaahhhhhhhhhh
Tomato is a fruit. Most of the pizzas you've eaten have been fruit pizzas all along!
Tomato is a fruit. Most of the pizzas you've eaten have been fruit pizzas all along!
Favorite topping is easily pepperoni, especially the tiny ones that curl hard around the edges. I plan to not be as bandwagon-y, make more independent observations. Pineapple should be on everything, and it should be inside sushi rolls, too.
To be fair, that wiki is from another site, so when it talks about meta trends, it doesn't always apply to us. I haven't actually paid any attention to any previous role madness games GAFIA has done(if any).
oreomunsta
Banned
That's a good looking pizza! But where are the jalapeno peppers and pineapple?
Did you call the pizza place to let them know they forgot those toppings?
I can't speak for Burb but that was not how your vote or Burb's question came across. Burb's felt like a probe for my opinion whereas your vote felt like I was missing some logic steps which is why I asked you about it. I mean, I can at least understand-ish your logic for my vote now even if I don't agree with it I suppose.
Felt it was more implied than you directly saying 'hey i might be lynched' since you're equating 'people getting lynched for being loud' to your current situation, i.e. you will be lynched for acting 'odd'.
Also I agree, it is Day 1 and there is hardly ever anything to talk about, especially this early on. That's why when there is something to even lightly discuss and get people's opinions on it gets brought up, because if there isn't then we're back at square one. At that point we may as well not do anything since it will be a crapshoot instead of at least trying to figure things out instead of waiting for it to fall in our laps.
I feel like this is a record for an Ordinary claim on Day 1.
That doesn't mean I agree with it though
If you're telling the truth then actual PRs are now more likely to get hit, all because you feel like you're the better Scum Hunter.
:x
You started great...theeeen you fell back off again.
What are your thoughts on Palmer's claim?
What's the point of dragging us through a retrospective on how things came across? Do you think my words conflict? How utterly absurd would that be? I don't understand what you could be trying to get at here, other than a really subpar attempt to appear as progressing dialect.
Look at how jumbled this is, full of hesitation and what is essentially insinuation of prospective wrong-doing:
If you're going to make a case, make a case. Otherwise, I'm going to assume you're trying to cast doubt onto other players in a passive, non-committal way.
hey_monkey
Banned
oh... oh my god... you're right
I'M THE BARBARIAN
And then I was gonna say something about how tomato is different anyhow and no one puts pineapple in their pasta but I searched the internet before posting so as not to look like a rube and it turns out I'm wrong and I think I'm ready for the world to end now, please.
So like I made grand declarations in the main thread about how I was gonna play differently since how I write apparently is what got me killed but surprise, it looks like I'm just gonna be me after all. I guess I don't know how to not come across as shady or whatever.
so I'm gonna say a couple things here: first, nah. Tunneling on people hunting scum so that scum mistakes got missed, sure. Minute things? Nope. There were big ol' glaring things happening and even before I died we were all busy fixating and it just got worse as the game went on. But second? Can we revisit how my lynch started this way with some people not liking my phrasing and there was a big deal about it and WELP I FLIPPED TOWN so ¯\_(ツ
_/¯? Maybe give it a day at least before you decide I'm Queen Scum of Pineapple Scum Town, Harbinger of the Coming Fruity Evil because you didn't like the way I slung some sentences together to make a joke?But anyway, it's day one of day one so I'm in favor of this approach generally, even if I sound naturally snappy-ass:
hey_monkey
Banned
So man, that Palmer claim. Palmer's clever and he sees, so I don't know how to feel about this. I want to believe Palmer's town and this is a good way to get the ball rolling on something concrete, certainly. Huh.
20 of us total, so assume 4 or 5 scum. There was a 94% chance they were hitting a power role anyway. Sure, that changes over time, but so does the value of a semi-confirmed townie. It also improves the odds of our PRs not getting wasted on me. I'm not worth protecting in any way, and it saves investigative roles some time, if they believe me.
That's because I am uncertain, we're picking at semantics here and I'm still trying to get my bearings on playing again because I haven't played since early January and it's taking me a bit to get back into things. I feel like I'm grasping at straws but I'm also not willing to let conversation trail off and die while waiting for something else to appear. I'd at least like to try even if I'm not entirely confident in what I'm doing.
As for 'prospective wrong-doing' I'm assuming you mean my response towards understanding your logic even if I don't agree? That was towards your accusation me of working with Nat and BB. I can see where your logic came to that ( 'who else talked with BB in a way I felt was weird? Oh, Saw!' ) but I don't agree with your conclusion about it. That first part however was my bad, I definitely worded that poorly. What I meant to say was that Burb's question did not come across the way you felt that it did and I wanted to comment on that myself. I still have trouble seeing how you interpreted Burb's question in that way to throw this around on me and that's what I was trying to convey.
At the same time I don't feel strongly enough about my disagreement of your opinion here to climb to the rooftops and yell "I DISAGREE WITH DARRYL AND THEREFORE THINK HE IS SCUM". It's more of a 'yeah, okay, I guess I can see that? i wouldn't have come to that conclusion but ok' kind of a disagreement. Call it a passive shade throw if you want to but I don't take every weird thing I see and yell at someone about it, that's not how I play. :x
I guess it's possible that he's a mafia informed of a lack of a "casual pizza eater" as a cover role and going in balls-deep on assuming there isn't a token blue, but that's all I can come up with in terms of nefarious plot. Beyond that is... Ill-advised.
If you have any other ideas, I'm interested, but I don't see a reason to not trust it at this juncture.