He said he is innocent child though. Seems like it was triggered by scum roleblock, so I doubt ascetic.
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Pineapple Pizza Mafia |OT| The War On Fruit Pizza
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He said he is innocent child though. Seems like it was triggered by scum roleblock, so I doubt ascetic.
Let's lynch Burbeting and Palmer now.
My hunch that WhereDragonz was sniped during the day to deflect my attempts to lead a bandwagon onto Swamped looks very accurate. If so, the two guilty parties were Burbeting and Palmer. They both waited until the last minute to bus Swamped, too. Probably posturing. The two appear to me to be acting in unison. Swamped stood her neck out for Palmer. Very suspect.
The alternative here is Verelios and Blarg. The split the vote angle was a smart play if it was real, but I was playing that up yesterday for dramatic effect to try to kill Swamped. Votes getting split last minute happens all of the time and it's not unusual whatsoever for a town to do it without thinking. Kinda funny that people latched onto it already, no? The suspects mentioned above, too. For scum, it is a play that is long-winded so it does fit my profile for how scum Blarg would try to play. His posts haven't rung true to me. I didn't like Sawneeks day 1.
So now I am confused.
Two scum camps:
Burbeting & Palmer
Verelios & Blarg
My hunch that WhereDragonz was sniped during the day to deflect my attempts to lead a bandwagon onto Swamped looks very accurate. If so, the two guilty parties were Burbeting and Palmer. They both waited until the last minute to bus Swamped, too. Probably posturing. The two appear to me to be acting in unison. Swamped stood her neck out for Palmer. Very suspect.
The alternative here is Verelios and Blarg. The split the vote angle was a smart play if it was real, but I was playing that up yesterday for dramatic effect to try to kill Swamped. Votes getting split last minute happens all of the time and it's not unusual whatsoever for a town to do it without thinking. Kinda funny that people latched onto it already, no? The suspects mentioned above, too. For scum, it is a play that is long-winded so it does fit my profile for how scum Blarg would try to play. His posts haven't rung true to me. I didn't like Sawneeks day 1.
So now I am confused.
Two scum camps:
Burbeting & Palmer
Verelios & Blarg
Some, but it's still worth telling us, IMO.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
What if the mafia night actions are all variations on pineapple pizza giving, so he would be protected against all of those? Maybe not against the night kill, since that's a poisoned pizza. (Though actually reading the flavor for today, it looks like night kills take different forms...)
I feel like you just missed monkey's posts.
Aside from that, do you think Swamped and I, as scum teammates, would both claim vanilla townie, in a role madness game?
Innocent child who is also immune to all mafia actions other than NK still seems pretty OP.
Also yeah, I assume Darryl didn't read monkey's post.
hey_monkey
Banned
Since Sky seemed to get that I was hinting him and he said okay, yes, my green check was SkyOdin. He was just so weird d1.
Other people I considered checking last night were Burb, Darryl, and Verelios, but I figured I'd been so anti-Blarg d1 and jumped in when he was on Palmer that he was the best choice. And I'm really glad I did. I'd have saved my shots for when the pool got drained a bit, but since I get read weird no matter what I do, I figured I'd better burn my shots.
Other people I considered checking last night were Burb, Darryl, and Verelios, but I figured I'd been so anti-Blarg d1 and jumped in when he was on Palmer that he was the best choice. And I'm really glad I did. I'd have saved my shots for when the pool got drained a bit, but since I get read weird no matter what I do, I figured I'd better burn my shots.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
And gets confirmed town for it. Yeah, too much. lol
I'm waiting patiently for his follow up. I do't blame him, really. I was wrong as fuck about Swamped, and nearly bandwagoned 30, though I Swamped's flip doesn't take away from my theory there.
Why did she fuck up on her votes D1? To protect BB? Again, the double vanilla scum claims seems absurd, but here we are with 3 unconfirmed still.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
I guess we need to start talking about BB, as well as yourself, though I'm honestly very inclined to believe you are town at this point. That last minute shift doesn't really link to the off-wagon from 30...
timetokill
Banned
Sup pizza people
I'm still catching up but I'll post some thoughts in a few hours, it's a nice distraction from Friday work lol
hey_monkey
Banned
I still think it's weird how Burb and Palmer are basically like tied at the brain but I'm also less inclined to suspect either right now.
I gotta go do some stuff, but I'd like to say I'm against turboing Blarg early because I think we do have some investigative work to do and I'd like to hear from him to see what story he cooks up.
I gotta go do some stuff, but I'd like to say I'm against turboing Blarg early because I think we do have some investigative work to do and I'd like to hear from him to see what story he cooks up.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
It's too obvious from where I'm sitting. They'd try to be at odds with each other or disconnected.
Yeah, I had suspected that. Thanks for mixing my name as a town clear with such certainty in among other reads. It was a good place to hide a green check, though weird enough compared to the prior day's reads for me to catch it.
This will lend some credence to the outlandish and shocking role claim I was planning to make today.
Ya I saw them but didn't read them. Hey monkeys long form style is really exhausting to read. I gotta sit back and watch the claims unfold I suppose
I dunno. I don't think that is a smoking gun proving you town. It's possible, ya. Why not?
That seems like really bad scum play if so. Swamped was a VERY early push, so they had all day to get a train on someone else. Unless you think my 30/TTK plan was that push, there's no way acohrs was scum too.
He could be neutral though.
Were you scumreading hey_monkey going into today? I know I was.
hey_monkey
Banned
Oh, sure, before I go then: I'm an Authentic Neapolitan Pizza Lover. Because I'm such a hardcore pizza person, I know what's up between real pizza and fake shitty wannabe pizza (like, y'know, with pineapple).
So the situation is right now.
List of Pizza Warriors (none of the claims are confirmed)
05. [m] SkyOdin - PDT - Claimed to be Town by Hey_Monkey
06. [f] hey_monkey - EST - Claimed to be Town 2-shot Cop
09. [m] Palmer_v1 - CST - Claimed to be Vanilla
10. [m] Blargonaut - GMT - Claimed to be Not Town by Hey_Monkey
14. [m] BlackBuzzard - CET - Claimed to be Vanilla
16. [m] acohrs - GMT - Claimed to be Vanilla
01. [m] isaacnukem - New - UTC+8
02.[m] Moonkid - New - GMT+12 Replaced by [m] LaunchpadMcQ.
03. [they] Darryl - EST
04. [m] Lifeline - EST
08. [m] Dr. Worm - EST
11.[f] Sawneeks - PST Replaced by [m] Verelios
12.[m] 30yearsofhurt - GMT+10 Replaced by [f] timetokill
13.[m] oreomunsta - GMT Replaced by [m] Nomadic Sparks
15. [m] Burbeting - GMT+2
20. [m] StanleyPalmtree - GMT+12
List of Pizza Warriors (none of the claims are confirmed)
05. [m] SkyOdin - PDT - Claimed to be Town by Hey_Monkey
06. [f] hey_monkey - EST - Claimed to be Town 2-shot Cop
09. [m] Palmer_v1 - CST - Claimed to be Vanilla
10. [m] Blargonaut - GMT - Claimed to be Not Town by Hey_Monkey
14. [m] BlackBuzzard - CET - Claimed to be Vanilla
16. [m] acohrs - GMT - Claimed to be Vanilla
01. [m] isaacnukem - New - UTC+8
02.
03. [they] Darryl - EST
04. [m] Lifeline - EST
08. [m] Dr. Worm - EST
11.
12.
13.
15. [m] Burbeting - GMT+2
20. [m] StanleyPalmtree - GMT+12
hey_monkey
Banned
I mean, Darryl can't read my posts so how could he? lol I guess.
But I figured there'd be some doubt on me after yesterday. Totally understandable. I'd doubt me, too.
back later, y'all.
hey_monkey
Banned
damn, THEY. shade aside, I'm sorry, Darryl - I try hard not to fuck up pronouns. 
Natiko's flip also most likely means there aren't any more millers (I sure hope so), so Blarg's red check can't have come from that.
isaacnukem
Member
Why are you claiming cop this early?
This answer was pretty accurate. I don't think I have given hey_monkey a good enough of a read. Posts felt largely insignificant, my attempts to read into them because of their insignificance gave me impressions of misguided town. I guess it could go one way or the other.
We could have a framer. The roles are not adding up. This game is too bastard for how vanilla it is. We could be walking into a setup.
Dunno what to say in regards to Burb and I. I can't be sure yet, but it might be first time we were on the same team. He and I talk in discord fairly often about gaf meta vs other metas, among other things. I still have niggling doubts about him, but that's mostly a psychology thing, where I want to disbelieve him, because I don't want to look like a fool if I'm wrong. Lot of town get fucked over because of that kinda thing.
I think we're getting shipped, bear.
Valid point. No reason not to provide us your name, and paraphrased fluff.
No, but you presented two pairs, one of which has a semi-confirmed scum in it, so your logic amuses me right now.
How likely do you think a framer is a game where a miller already exists, and the cop seems to be a 2-shot?
hey_monkey
Banned
Because I had two shots and they're gone so there's no reason for me to hang back. Explained use of of shots early in previous post.
Ran back in here because I just remembered: should we revisit Blarg's read assignment pairs or is that too obvious?
Okay, NOW I'm out. If you missed it, my full claim is above with paraphrased flavor and all.
I don't see how those two really change a framer. I mean when we lynch Blarg today, we may get a false title. It might say he's scum and he's town. This is the setup I'm talking about. So, in regards to hey-monkey being scum, I can see them being scum in that scenario. Yes
Miller still confirms that there is most likely a cop in this game. Do you think monkey is trying to bait a real cop to counter claim?
You're right. That's a good point. There has to be a cop. If there is a real cop that isn't monkey, don't keep quiet. Please counter claim.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
It's a bad plan because even if there's a real cop out there, they may just think hey_monkey is a double. I know it's unlikely, but who really knows. The best way to handle this is test the claim, and if it pans out, we move on from there; if not, we lynch monkey next day phase.
What if there's a neutral investigative role ala Arkham?
So D2, scum set up a plan. Natiko claims miller so that on N2, they can frame and kill him to provide cover for their cop claim to lynch blarg, who they had to have framed N1? I guess Skyodin could be in on it since he's the N1 blue check.
This risks a cop counter claim though. If they do claim, we can kill them before scum can frame them, and unravel the whole thing. bad plan. too convoluted.
This risks a cop counter claim though. If they do claim, we can kill them before scum can frame them, and unravel the whole thing. bad plan. too convoluted.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
DON'T COUNTER CLAIM IF YOU ARE A COP
Blarg knowing so much about my role and motivations and his last second Palmer distraction routine makes him the top scum pick for me. I just thought he was a smart townie.
Also if Blarg ends up being neutral and not mafia, I hope no one trusts Monkey as confirmed town.
Don't forget this bit
I came in like 15 mins before day end and was trying to catch up on any new developments. I noticed Launch's bs vote on 30, but he also said he had tie breaker tabs lined up. So I wanted to force him to make a real vote. If you look at the day end, I had both posts ready to go if Launch didn't do anything to move it back out of a tie. I removed my vote from the last post after Natiko voted instead.
I obviously missed that Launch had already moved out of 30 and had voted for Swamped. So my bad. At least Natiko got confirmed town from it. But he's dead. He stole death's sweet pineapple flavored embrace from me. Damn him.
Also if Blarg ends up being neutral and not mafia, I hope no one trusts Monkey as confirmed town.
Don't forget this bit
I came in like 15 mins before day end and was trying to catch up on any new developments. I noticed Launch's bs vote on 30, but he also said he had tie breaker tabs lined up. So I wanted to force him to make a real vote. If you look at the day end, I had both posts ready to go if Launch didn't do anything to move it back out of a tie. I removed my vote from the last post after Natiko voted instead.
I obviously missed that Launch had already moved out of 30 and had voted for Swamped. So my bad. At least Natiko got confirmed town from it. But he's dead. He stole death's sweet pineapple flavored embrace from me. Damn him.
I'm in Darryl's camp here, even though his behavior today is super shady so far.
This also assumes you get multiple shots from a supposed Framer.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Who knows how many uses this hypothetical cop has, though. If he/she counter claims, yet still has uses, that's a bad move. There's no guarantee of them having 2 uses like monkey says she does.
Lmao. Now you're thinking on my level. Absolute paranoia. What if everything is a lie?
I definitely do think there's a cop but I'm also of the mind that there's more than one investigative power (because role madness)
I saw it in one game and it didn't get used I don't think. I've been keeping my eye out for it ever since
What game was it?
I can perhaps shine some more light on our situation.
I am town's Beloved Princess.
What this means is that if I die, the next day phase of the game will be skipped. In other words, two night phases will occur back to back. So, we would get double the number of mafia kills, along with the other night actions.
However, there is more. Something else will happen when I die. However, Sophia has informed me that this will be explained at sone later point in time, presumably when my power activates.
Now Beloved Princess, according to mafiascum's wiki, is only used in two formats: role madness games and games specifically built around the role. Furthermore, my role is clearly slightly bastard, since Sophia is being coy about some of the details.
Thus, we are not in some boring vanilla game.