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[timetokill]

What's up Isaac?

 

[isaacnukem]

I have no clue what's up. I tried to join in the conversation yesterday but that failed. I'd be down to lynch anyone, reveal my role, and maybe snag a Hawaiian pizza or two in the process.

 

[hey_monkey]

Sure, tell us who you are. All the cool kids are doing it. Be careful not to fully quote from your role PM, though. Hinting and paraphrasing is good.

What's your fresh first-game perspective on the shenanigans?

 

[timetokill]

and maybe snag a Hawaiian pizza or two in the process.

!!!

Are you admitting to being scum?!?

 

[Darryl]

I could buy Lifelines argument against Stanley. I think the other easy inactive candidates are a mistake. Out of the least active, Stanley's posts feel the most off.

Vote: Stanleypalmtree

 

[hey_monkey]

Stanley's posts feel the most off.

In what sense? Your argument, not Lifeline's.

 

[SkyOdin]

I am not sure what to do about all of the low activity players in this game. Coasting through the game and avoiding attention is certainly a classic scum strategy. However, I highly doubt that they are all scum/neutral. Right now, they just feel too easy of targets. We lynched BB without even a shred of resistance, and I can't shake the feeling that scum would happily sit back and let town work its way through the likes of acohrs, timetokill, and isaac. But I can't really rule them out from being scum, either.

 

[hey_monkey]

Same, Sky. And there's probably a scum in the more actives but there's nothing to work from or with.

😑

 

[Darryl]

In what sense? Your argument, not Lifeline's.

Intuition, Sherlock. Do you need a dictionary​for the word 'feel'?

 

[Darryl]

If I had some kind of grand case then I wouldn't be submitting a half-assed vote. Lifeline made a good argument. It's the best one I've seen outside of Launch, which got barely any feedback whatsoever. A lot of you guys, even the ones who ARE POSTING are contributing as little as the people who AREN'T, so don't start asking me why I'm willing to join a bandwagon after I've tried to make a case but failed, when you aren't making cases at all and are just furthering the lack of direction this game has. Can some people call me fucking scum already? Why am I even still alive?

 

[Darryl]

In what sense? Your argument, not Lifeline's.

Let's hear what about Stanleypalmtrees posts doesn't feel off to you? Real fun to be asked, huh?

 

[isaacnukem]

!!!

Are you admitting to being scum?!?

I don't know how you got that from that

 

[timetokill]

I am not sure what to do about all of the low activity players in this game. Coasting through the game and avoiding attention is certainly a classic scum strategy. However, I highly doubt that they are all scum/neutral. Right now, they just feel too easy of targets. We lynched BB without even a shred of resistance, and I can't shake the feeling that scum would happily sit back and let town work its way through the likes of acohrs, timetokill, and isaac. But I can't really rule them out from being scum, either.

Well, we created this mess for ourselves. Even when people (such as ahem, me) called for lynches of low-activity posters everyone wanted to go hard on the high-activity people. At this point both town and scum are probably seeing the obvious strategy is to lie low because there's been no penalty for it whatsoever.

Also I would've argued against BB's lynch had he not been turbo'd, I thought we had been through this whole thing as town before but that's neither here nor there now.

 

[isaacnukem]

My role is the lover of meat supreme pizza. Hence my wariness of those pizza chain claimers.

I am a commuter, that's why:
1. I kinda believed Blargonaut when he said scum failed to kill on that day he got lynched because I commuted that day
2. I kinda believe hey_monkey because I also have two shots

Now for my question again. What are the odds of a doctor, a bulletproof, and a commuter all existing in a single game?

 

[timetokill]

I don't know how you got that from that

Pineapple is for scum, you dirty Hawaiian lover, how could you

My role is the lover of meat supreme pizza. Hence my wariness of those pizza chain claimers.

I am a commuter, that's why:
1. I kinda believed Blargonaut when he said scum failed to kill on that day he got lynched because I commuted that day
2. I kinda believe hey_monkey because I also have two shots

Now for my question again. What are the odds of a doctor, a bulletproof, and a commuter all existing in a single game?

Not to mention a supposed backup for doctor or something? Is that what Darryl is claiming?

 

[SkyOdin]

I still find Launch to be strangely suspicious if you look at the voting record. To add to my previous list of oddities, the only vote on Launch was from Swamped. It is an OMGUS vote apparently, but it is strangly lacking in tactical self-preservation. Swamped wasn't around at the end of Day 2, but right before she left, she moved her vote off of acohrs, who was her main rival for being lynched. Instead, she put her vote on Launch for little listed reason. Launch was listed by Swamped as possible scum alongside me, Verelios, and Nomadic Sparks, but without further elaboration at the time. It is a strange pick for a late-day vote, since no one else had voted for Launch at all that day, and the only one who hopped on was an immediate Lifeline bandwagon. It feels like it could have been an attempt by Swamped to distance herself from Launch.

 

[hey_monkey]

Now for my question again. What are the odds of a doctor, a bulletproof, and a commuter all existing in a single game?

Not to mention a supposed backup for doctor or something? Is that what Darryl is claiming?

Well, it was billed as a role madness, so I'd say the odds are pretty good we do have them all, especially when scum had a roleblocker and a strongman.

 

[SkyOdin]

Well, we created this mess for ourselves. Even when people (such as ahem, me) called for lynches of low-activity posters everyone wanted to go hard on the high-activity people. At this point both town and scum are probably seeing the obvious strategy is to lie low because there's been no penalty for it whatsoever.

Also I would've argued against BB's lynch had he not been turbo'd, I thought we had been through this whole thing as town before but that's neither here nor there now.

I don't think town has been targeting high-activity people as a rule at all. We have had three lynches, and two have been scum. Day 1 was a confused mess, but it exposed Swamped, who town proceeded to lynch. Then hey_monkey caught Blargonaut. Our main mislynch was BlackBuzzard, who wasn't really a huge contributor to the game.

I also don't think that anyone has really changed their posting style much over the course of the game. Scum and vigilantes have taken out high-activity posters, but that was inevitable. If you think any poster in particular has dropped in activity levels over the course of this game, I would love for you to point them out; it would be an interesting tell.

 

[Darryl]

Pineapple is for scum, you dirty Hawaiian lover, how could you




Not to mention a supposed backup for doctor or something? Is that what Darryl is claiming?

I'm just a generic back up. I have no idea who I'm backing up. Cop or doctor probably. That's why I wanted to be sure we had a counter claim on hey monkey D3, because I assumed I would be backing up the cop. I was also hesitant to believe we just had a two shot cop.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

My role is the lover of meat supreme pizza. Hence my wariness of those pizza chain claimers.

I am a commuter, that's why:
1. I kinda believed Blargonaut when he said scum failed to kill on that day he got lynched because I commuted that day
2. I kinda believe hey_monkey because I also have two shots

Now for my question again. What are the odds of a doctor, a bulletproof, and a commuter all existing in a single game?

hmmm I'd be inclined to hit Nomadic based on this.

I still find Launch to be strangely suspicious if you look at the voting record. To add to my previous list of oddities, the only vote on Launch was from Swamped. It is an OMGUS vote apparently, but it is strangly lacking in tactical self-preservation. Swamped wasn't around at the end of Day 2, but right before she left, she moved her vote off of acohrs, who was her main rival for being lynched. Instead, she put her vote on Launch for little listed reason. Launch was listed by Swamped as possible scum alongside me, Verelios, and Nomadic Sparks, but without further elaboration at the time. It is a strange pick for a late-day vote, since no one else had voted for Launch at all that day, and the only one who hopped on was an immediate Lifeline bandwagon. It feels like it could have been an attempt by Swamped to distance herself from Launch.

Except that it draws way too much attention to me, and if I knew she were going to take off for the day and we were in a scum chat together, I would have told her to put it elsewhere because of that and because there was no way that vote would gain traction. The likelier scenario is because she realized she had little control, would probably be dead soon, and she would be gone for the rest of the day, to throw her vote away so we couldn't get a read from it. Since Swamped and acohrs were the two main candidates that day, putting her vote on him might clear him once she flipped, depending on where discussion goes.

That's just my take. I know I'm involved in this, but I think she really either thought the vote my go to my court or she was just throwing it away so we couldn't get a read from it.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

SkyOdin, for what you're saying to be true, we had to have squabbled quite a bit beforehand to build that distance. The reality was that I kept throwing accusations at her and she just kept brushing them off or dismissing me.

 

[SkyOdin]

My role is the lover of meat supreme pizza. Hence my wariness of those pizza chain claimers.

I am a commuter, that's why:
1. I kinda believed Blargonaut when he said scum failed to kill on that day he got lynched because I commuted that day
2. I kinda believe hey_monkey because I also have two shots

Now for my question again. What are the odds of a doctor, a bulletproof, and a commuter all existing in a single game?

Actually, I think the odds are pretty good. Town has/had two players with negative utility, and scum had both a roleblocker and a two-shot strongman. The Strongman counters the bulletproof, while the commuter counters the strongman. The roleblocker and strongman combine to counter the doctor. Just about everyone seems to be limited to two or so uses, too. I'd say it checks out.

On the plus side, I am inclined to believe your claim, isaac. I just wish I knew why Nomadic was being so cagey about information.

 

[hey_monkey]

Intuition, Sherlock. Do you need a dictionary​for the word 'feel'?

If I had some kind of grand case then I wouldn't be submitting a half-assed vote. Lifeline made a good argument. It's the best one I've seen outside of Launch, which got barely any feedback whatsoever. A lot of you guys, even the ones who ARE POSTING are contributing as little as the people who AREN'T, so don't start asking me why I'm willing to join a bandwagon after I've tried to make a case but failed, when you aren't making cases at all and are just furthering the lack of direction this game has. Can some people call me fucking scum already? Why am I even still alive?

Let's hear what about Stanleypalmtrees posts doesn't feel off to you? Real fun to be asked, huh?

I mean, I guess it could look like I'm not doing anything if you don't read my posts. Which is what you said, yeah? Forgive me then if I don't exactly privilege your opinion of me. So it goes.

But let's talk about Stan and feelings. Here's the thing about Stan. It's absolutely within the realm of possibility for Stan to be scum, and it would be difficult to ferret out because only a few of us are ever around to talk to Stan when he's active, to have a little back-and-forth. That's just the situation. It also leaves Stan in a weird position sometimes that's been acknowledged, but Lineline cherry-picks, so even when he happens to get something right, the arguments are ill constructed and not worth trusting. For example:

Day 3:
- Came in ready to murder Blarg.
- Reaffirms how sure he is that he wants to lynch Blarg
- Mentions that Blarg is most likely Scum
- Lowkey defends Blarg.
- Lowkey buys Blarg's story, says it makes "sense"
- Continues to say he thinks Blarg is scum
- Says he's not going to vote Blarg because he wants to get Blarg's story straight
- Defends Blarg's story one last time
- Says he will vote for Blarg, says "pretty set on a blag lynch"
- Doesn't vote for Blarg and runs away

He didn't vote for Blarg because it would have put him close to turbo and we all talked about not wanting to turbo. Or, well, most of us. It wasn't all, was it? But he addressed that clearly:

now people are rhyming at me, i cant handle this, im out.

put me down for a spiritual vote on Blarg or whatever, hes 1 away from majority and i dont wanna hammer. looking pretty sure hes gon be lynch so yeahs.

peace out peoples.

o/

Twice, in fact:

..so imma sleep soon, should i like place a vote on blarg now? or do y'all have this?

i mean im cool either way, but sounds like you wanna keep yelling at each other and i wouldn't wanna spoil your fun too early.

Oh, three times:

its not that crazy that discussion has died down for many players, given that i think many of us are pretty set on a blag lynch, and we can only speculate so much on where to go after.
just not really wanting to turbo in case someone else has something to bring up (like apparently blarg himself atm).

i dont think its much of a problem unless it continues into future days.

Lifeline says Stan defended Blarg, but I'm going back through his posts and I'm not seeing it. In fact, he speaks out against some of the save-Blarg theories in the early 2600s - he was having a back and forth with isaac and he said what isaac was saying made sense, not that Blarg's story did. He did say that he wanted to make sure he had Blarg's story straight but so did a lot of others. What makes Stan special about that then? Lifeline started going in on Stan during these posts and Stan corrected it then, too.

So not only is there some cherry-picking going on, some of it is just plain wrong. So yeah, I'm gonna ask - why do you support this line of argumentation? Your gut feels? Your intuition? Noted.

Let's do the rest. I know you love my long posts.

Stan the man:

Day 1:
- Played Blarg's sick game and read people
- Called WAMD a townie lean
- Said little to nothing about Palmer, but voted for him anyway.
- Who else voted for Palmer? Blargonaut the scum lord.
- Did not remove vote for Day 1.

If we lynch everyone who did Blarg's reads, we'd be hosed.
WAMD was town, so.
Stan and Palmer have some historical friction as best I can tell. Who else voted for Palmer? Isaac, who Stan reads as scum. Also me. Probably others. I'd have to go look.

Day 2:
- Defended scum kween Swamped for tieing the game
- Was against a mass role claim, flipped flopped on Palmer
- Leaned scum on Acohrs and town on Dr. Worm
- Vere calls out Stan. Vere is brutally murdered. Coincidence?
- Stan votes for Acohrs. Possibly to save Scummy Swamp from being lynched.
- Who else votes for Acohrs? Blargonaut the scum astronaut.

Again, several people just weren't on that Swamped train. It was early. There wasn't a lot of evidence. Kudos to the people who made it happen.
He's been against a mass claim in other posts. Again, he wasn't the only one to question whether it was necessary. It really wasn't during day 2.
He had reads. k.
Sure, maybe Stan killed Verelios. Maybe Verelios is scum. What's Lifeline know what we don't?
Who else voted for acohrs? Half the game.

Day 4:
- Hammered townie BB.

You wanna get on someone for this, why not me? I said go ahead and do it.

But sure, Stan could be scum. The thing is, no one who's left is particularly more or less suspicious than Stan. Everyone could make a case against every single person who's left - which is why I was hoping you would make an actual case.

For me, the only thing that is suspicious really about Stan is this:

firstly, i would like to ask you all why i feel like mafiaing at 3am, because i sure as hell dont know.

secondly
eh, why not, got shit all else to add.

i am That Person Who Doesn't Like Pizza

Spoiler

which i would like to make clear is factually untrue

shockingly that isnt a neutral or anything, totes town.

Spoiler

totes

im VANIL- lolno, i do have an actual role.
i wont say much about my role, only that it could become pretty important later.

Spoiler

that probs sounds shady af right? yeah i bet it does lol.

But it's largely only suspicious because it's the unknown. And it's more than we've gotten from some.

 

[hey_monkey]

I'm just a generic back up. I have no idea who I'm backing up. Cop or doctor probably. That's why I wanted to be sure we had a counter claim on hey monkey D3, because I assumed I would be backing up the cop. I was also hesitant to believe we just had a two shot cop.

I'd seriously advocate for my own lynch if we knew you were my backup. With so many question marks in the game, it would be helpful to have one more check.

I also don't think that anyone has really changed their posting style much over the course of the game. Scum and vigilantes have taken out high-activity posters, but that was inevitable. If you think any poster in particular has dropped in activity levels over the course of this game, I would love for you to point them out; it would be an interesting tell.

Well, Palmer has. So has timetokill. Both decreased in activity. Palmer offered some why; ttk referenced one busy day. isaac has increased engagement; could be newness. Lifeline had a big period of inactivity in the middle. NS actually did start posting some after doing literally nothing for days.

 

[SkyOdin]

I always try to give people the benefit of the doubt when they say that they had real life concerns. It just happens. In a week or so, I'll have some stuff happening that might keep me from posting much for a day or two.

 

[SkyOdin]

As for Stanley, I agree that it is just plain hard to read him thanks to the timezones. I suppose we could assign him homework. I don't really get a scummy vibe from his posting, but I am learning that my gut isn't the best indicator for these things. My gut reads have a very low batting average this game. That is why I have been trying to analyze voting patterns a lot today.

 

[Darryl]

I mean, I guess it could look like I'm not doing anything if you don't read my posts. Which is what you said, yeah? Forgive me then if I don't exactly privilege your opinion of me. So it goes.

But let's talk about Stan and feelings. Here's the thing about Stan. It's absolutely within the realm of possibility for Stan to be scum, and it would be difficult to ferret out because only a few of us are ever around to talk to Stan when he's active, to have a little back-and-forth. That's just the situation. It also leaves Stan in a weird position sometimes that's been acknowledged, but Lineline cherry-picks, so even when he happens to get something right, the arguments are ill constructed and not worth trusting. For example:



He didn't vote for Blarg because it would have put him close to turbo and we all talked about not wanting to turbo. Or, well, most of us. It wasn't all, was it? But he addressed that clearly:



Twice, in fact:



Oh, three times:


Lifeline says Stan defended Blarg, but I'm going back through his posts and I'm not seeing it. In fact, he speaks out against some of the save-Blarg theories in the early 2600s - he was having a back and forth with isaac and he said what isaac was saying made sense, not that Blarg's story did. He did say that he wanted to make sure he had Blarg's story straight but so did a lot of others. What makes Stan special about that then? Lifeline started going in on Stan during these posts and Stan corrected it then, too.

So not only is there some cherry-picking going on, some of it is just plain wrong. So yeah, I'm gonna ask - why do you support this line of argumentation? Your gut feels? Your intuition? Noted.

Let's do the rest. I know you love my long posts.


If we lynch everyone who did Blarg's reads, we'd be hosed.
WAMD was town, so.
Stan and Palmer have some historical friction as best I can tell. Who else voted for Palmer? Isaac, who Stan reads as scum. Also me. Probably others. I'd have to go look.



Again, several people just weren't on that Swamped train. It was early. There wasn't a lot of evidence. Kudos to the people who made it happen.
He's been against a mass claim in other posts. Again, he wasn't the only one to question whether it was necessary. It really wasn't during day 2.
He had reads. k.
Sure, maybe Stan killed Verelios. Maybe Verelios is scum. What's Lifeline know what we don't?
Who else voted for acohrs? Half the game.


You wanna get on someone for this, why not me? I said go ahead and do it.

But sure, Stan could be scum. The thing is, no one who's left is particularly more or less suspicious than Stan. Everyone could make a case against every single person who's left - which is why I was hoping you would make an actual case.

For me, the only thing that is suspicious really about Stan is this:


But it's largely only suspicious because it's the unknown. And it's more than we've gotten from some.

Lol, Monkey. I obviously got your grannies in a knit and you went back through those old posts with your yarn in a cone. Like yea, his posts are kinda scrambled and over-the-top, I've been complaining about it all the time. But we're not idiots and we can get to the heart of what he's saying, like I can understand what he means by this:

Day 3:
- Came in ready to murder Blarg.
- Reaffirms how sure he is that he wants to lynch Blarg
- Mentions that Blarg is most likely Scum
- Lowkey defends Blarg.
- Lowkey buys Blarg's story, says it makes "sense"
- Continues to say he thinks Blarg is scum
- Says he's not going to vote Blarg because he wants to get Blarg's story straight
- Defends Blarg's story one last time
- Says he will vote for Blarg, says "pretty set on a blag lynch"
- Doesn't vote for Blarg and runs away

Like, what he's trying to say is that Stanley he came into Day #3 posturing, ready to lynch Blarg, all ready to go get-em (which is what scum would do, because they knew blarg was scum already) and then sat around re-affirming how much he wanted to lynch him while not lynching him and finding reasons to sit on the fence. If he is scum, he'd be hesitant to look like he's giving an ear to Blarg, so he would try to frame it as "getting the story straight". Why would he do it any other way when Blarg was obviously going to die? That's like the minimum viable participation reward in your scum teammates gambit.

I looked through his posts and some of the stuff that I found, Lifeline already mentioned. Like when he was defending Swamped D2

 

[hey_monkey]

As for Stanley, I agree that it is just plain hard to read him thanks to the timezones. I suppose we could assign him homework. I don't really get a scummy vibe from his posting, but I am learning that my gut isn't the best indicator for these things. My gut reads have a very low batting average this game. That is why I have been trying to analyze voting patterns a lot today.

same, and why I question gutfeels.

 

[hey_monkey]

Lol, Monkey. I obviously got your grannies in a knit and you went back through those old posts with your yarn in a cone. Like yea, his posts are kinda scrambled and over-the-top, I've been complaining about it all the time. But we're not idiots and we can get to the heart of what he's saying, like I can understand what he means by this:

I just think it's pretty unnecessary to roll in and make three posts with increased shitbaggery in a row. This is a discussion we can have without that.

Like, what he's trying to say is that Stanley he came into Day #3 posturing, ready to lynch Blarg, all ready to go get-em (which is what scum would do, because they knew blarg was scum already) and then sat around re-affirming how much he wanted to lynch him while not lynching him and finding reasons to sit on the fence. If he is scum, he'd be hesitant to look like he's giving an ear to Blarg, so he would try to frame it as "getting the story straight". Why would he do it any other way when Blarg was obviously going to die? That's like the minimum viable participation reward in your scum teammates gambit.

I looked through his posts and some of the stuff that I found, Lifeline already mentioned. Like when he was defending Swamped D2

Like so. I mean, I'm just not going to listen to Lifeline, really. I don't trust him. But if someone else wants to come in with similar analysis, I will listen and weigh it. It's all I wanted and what I asked for.

Re: Blarg - it's a question then of how we think it went down. Is it a pattern for saving scum and killing town? Or is it just unfortunate timing? I don't think we have the evidence to say either way because we have only had three lynches and Stan's patterns are not unlike some others.

But I do think it's possible. I'm interested in what he says about his role now that others have claimed. If he continues to be cagey after the next flip, I don't think that's a particularly trustworthy move.

 

[Darryl]

You know, I don't really get a scummy vibe from his posting either. God, I've been so paranoid this game I don't even know what tree to bark up.

Vote: Novote
No vote

 

[Darryl]

I just think it's pretty unnecessary to roll in and make three posts with increased shitbaggery in a row. This is a discussion we can have without that.



Like so. I mean, I'm just not going to listen to Lifeline, really. I don't trust him. But if someone else wants to come in with similar analysis, I will listen and weigh it. It's all I wanted and what I asked for.

Re: Blarg - it's a question then of how we think it went down. Is it a pattern for saving scum and killing town? Or is it just unfortunate timing? I don't think we have the evidence to say either way because we have only had three lynches and Stan's patterns are not unlike some others.

But I do think it's possible. I'm interested in what he says about his role now that others have claimed. If he continues to be cagey after the next flip, I don't think that's a particularly trustworthy move.

Yea, I mean he had the trying to save Blarg scandal on D3. He was a vital voice in getting Swamped lynched D2. I don't like his theatrics but he has more room to shitpost than most people in this game do, imo, because of the Swamped thing. When he posts, I know damn well it was a town post because he's verified, so I think it is a case of listening to people who you know you can trust which is just fueled by my paranoia.

 

[hey_monkey]

You know, I don't really get a scummy vibe from his posting either. God, I've been so paranoid this game I don't even know what tree to bark up.

Vote: Novote
No vote

We are on the same page with this one. I have honestly doubted everyone left in the last day because we just don't have shit to go on.

 

[Nomadic Sparks]

I'm still interested in whatever the hell happened to Lifeline claiming scum

 

[Darryl]

I'm still interested in whatever the hell happened to Lifeline claiming scum

lifeline is confirmed town by the mod.

 

[StanleyPalmtree]

now, im never one to blame someone else for thinking i might be scum,
but this:

I could buy Lifelines argument against Stanley.

Lifeline made a good argument. It's the best one I've seen outside of Launch, which got barely any feedback whatsoever.

your an absolute idiot if you take anything that piece of trash says at face value.
hell the reason i never disputed that"case" against me was because i though noone here would be dumb enough to actually buy it.
thankfully i dont have to anyway thanks to HeyMonkey playing this game properly.

thought, there is one detail i feel bares mentioning, that you yourself recently mentioned.
after his whole "VigiStante" claim i was never actually sure that Blarg was scum, and hadnt decided to believe him or not right up until then end, i just didn't think the truth mattered, as either way he should have been lynched.
i dont think this actually matters to your argument, but eh.

god it is so frustrating constantly having to read through shit like that, knowing that the argument will have already died down.

As for Stanley, I agree that it is just plain hard to read him thanks to the timezones. I suppose we could assign him homework. I don't really get a scummy vibe from his posting, but I am learning that my gut isn't the best indicator for these things. My gut reads have a very low batting average this game. That is why I have been trying to analyze voting patterns a lot today.

yeah i wouldn't object to some homework if your curious about my take on something.

 

[Nomadic Sparks]

lifeline is confirmed town by the mod.

Unvote: Lifeline

 

[Nomadic Sparks]

I have no idea who to believe anymore

Do we have confirmed kill count besides Blarg being scum?

 

[Nomadic Sparks]

Killcount as in which lynchees were scum and were town?

 

[hey_monkey]

thankfully i dont have to anyway thanks to HeyMonkey playing this game properly.

I need you to know that because of this line, I will probably literally curse you if you turn out to be scum.

curse.

 

[hey_monkey]

Killcount as in which lynchees were scum and were town?

First post in the thread.

 

[StanleyPalmtree]

Killcount as in which lynchees were scum and were town?

im really not sure what you are asking for, but the first post has a list of every player, and gets updated to show if they are dead and what there roles were.

I need you to know that because of this line, I will probably literally curse you if you turn out to be scum.

curse.

i accept this responsibility

 

[Nomadic Sparks]

*sees spoilers*

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DAMN IT TOWN

 

[hey_monkey]

*sees spoilers*

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DAMN IT TOWN

please could you finish an entire sentence, because so far as I know no one here is psychic (that would be cheating in mafia anyway) and it would be really helpful for town if you would be more forthcoming with thoughts, details, ideas, etc.

tl;dr = damn it town what?

 

[StanleyPalmtree]

clearly NS has seen that town will win this game, and is distraught as that means he, as scum, will lose.

clearly.

 

[Darryl]

now, im never one to blame someone else for thinking i might be scum,
but this:





your an absolute idiot if you take anything that piece of trash says at face value.
hell the reason i never disputed that"case" against me was because i though noone here would be dumb enough to actually buy it.
thankfully i dont have to anyway thanks to HeyMonkey playing this game properly.

thought, there is one detail i feel bares mentioning, that you yourself recently mentioned.
after his whole "VigiStante" claim i was never actually sure that Blarg was scum, and hadnt decided to believe him or not right up until then end, i just didn't think the truth mattered, as either way he should have been lynched.
i dont think this actually matters to your argument, but eh.

god it is so frustrating constantly having to read through shit like that, knowing that the argument will have already died down.



yeah i wouldn't object to some homework if your curious about my take on something.

Lifelife's case against you has more work put into it than any post you've made this game, so. I don't know if you should be pointing fingers here. The stuff he says is valid. I went through the posts and noticed it myself. You showed solidarity to Swamped by defending the initial concerns over her vote-switching and by having a counter-vote down against her lynch, lining up with confirmed scum Swamped & Blarg, alongside potential scum Verelios.

You showed solidarity to Blarg in D3 by humoring him through-out the day and you showed it to him D1 by playing along with his read game.

Almost everything you've done of note in this game has been by-the-book scummy.

 

[StanleyPalmtree]

Lifelife's case against you has more work put into it than any post you've made this game, so. I don't know if you should be pointing fingers here. The stuff he says is valid. I went through the posts and noticed it myself. You showed solidarity to Swamped by defending the initial concerns over her vote-switching and by having a counter-vote down against her lynch, lining up with confirmed scum Swamped & Blarg, alongside potential scum Verelios.

You showed solidarity to Blarg in D3 by humoring him through-out the day and you showed it to him D1 by playing along with his read game.

Almost everything you've done of note in this game has been by-the-book scummy.

1.hows about you actually show my supposed transgressions?
or do you not want people to realise that this is the softest defence in history?

so i dont really know what the history is here thats making you think this way, but this seems like a unreasonably high standard to hold someone to.

2. a coincidental vote shared by many others, big woop.
3. the reads game is completely inconsequential, and again, many people participated.
4. are you fucking kidding? i asked him a couple questions, how the hell is that a bad thing? its the most basic level of playing mafia.

im allowed to point fingers when i see nothing but trumped up bullshit, and thats sure as hell all im seeing from you or lifeline right now.

 

[Darryl]

1.hows about you actually show my supposed transgressions?
or do you not want people to realise that this is the softest defence in history?


2. a coincidental vote shared by many others, big woop.
3. the reads game is completely inconsequential, and again, many people participated.
4. are you fucking kidding? i asked him a couple questions, how the hell is that a bad thing? its the most basic level of playing mafia.

im allowed to point fingers when i see nothing but trumped up bullshit, and thats sure as hell all im seeing from you or lifeline right now.

1.

It doesn't matter how soft or strong you came on with the defense. The problem is, why on earth would you, as a town player express those particular doubts?

so i dont really know what the history is here thats making you think this way, but this seems like a unreasonably high standard to hold someone to.

You have no idea what Launch is even talking about by your own admission, yet you still think attempt to shape the narrative. It was Launch asking these questions that led me to go in on Swamped, which led to her being lynched and to Blarg being lynched day #2.

2.

A coincidental vote? The.. vote that lynched scum? It's all just inconsequential and means nothing? It's what led us to scum #2.

3.

That's just a matter of perspective. It shows where your mind was. I had no intention of ever playing Blarg's game. I'm also not on a team with Blarg and I have no loyalty to him. If I was on a team with Blarg, I may have played his game as I would have actually been reading his posts (I wasn't).

4.

It isn't about asking questions. It's about where you had positioned yourself amongst the group throughout the day. You were fully on-top of the Blarg lynch (as you should have been), yet were, imo, more than willing to let people listen to Blarg. I'm sure that if Blarg were persuasive enough and got a few more votes, you were positioned such that you could jump ship very easy.

 

[SkyOdin]

I will say one thing Stanley, your initial defense against Lifeline's accusations was pretty weak. It came down to calling people idiots for listening to Lifeline. But while Lifeline has made some big mistakes and is practically Blarg 2.0, he has also been right about things as well. While some of his reasoning was wrong, he did identify Swamped as scum on Day 1, and practically forced her critical error with the last minute vote. Lifeline was strongly pushing a narrative that Swamped and Dragonz were scum partners, so Swamped may have felt that a town flip on Dragonz would make her look like town as well.

So while I don't always understand Lifeline, I don't think he is a fool, intentionally trying to throw the game, or anything like that. So I extend to him the same respect and consideration I give any player who puts together an argument with evidence. I don't think his reasoning is necessarily correct, but there is no logic in dismissing it out of hand.

 

[StanleyPalmtree]

by coincidence i meant that me voting achors at the same time as scum did.

beyond that,
ehh, yeah, fine go ahead and try,
every point of yours demands that i already know many things that i couldnt have,
your clearly dead set on this tunnel, regardless on how excessively unreasonable it is.

have fun.

 

[hey_monkey]

If I was on a team with Blarg, I may have played his game as I would have actually been reading his posts (I wasn't).

I really don't get this. Whose posts do you read, then?