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[UtadaBarkley]

Feed it with uncooked meat then, instead we get to see the gruesome death of an animal.

So I'm guessing you've never utilized a mousetrap? Or killed a bug... I mean, seriously. It's not like he sat there and killed the mouse for no apparent reason. It wasn't even "gruesome" what was so gruesome...? I clicked the link expecting to be shocked and motified, instead I was like "is that it?".


What do you think animals do out in the wild? Have tea parties? And gossip about Jlo's latest wedding?

 

[tenchir]

So I'm guessing you've never utilized a mousetrap? Or killed a bug... I mean, seriously. It's not like he sat there and killed the mouse for no apparent reason. It wasn't even "gruesome" what was so gruesome...? I clicked the link expecting to be shocked and motified, instead I was like "is that it?".


What do you think animals do out in the wild? Have tea parties? And gossip about Jlo's latest wedding?

We use humane mousetrap, those exist you know.

 

[Kuroyume]

You have to love the assholes that come in and try to rationalize such stupid behavior. Should people have piranhas in their houses? Think about that...

So what if mice have no purpose? Do you have a purpose? No. Should I dump you into a piranha tank because you're meat to my pets? There's nothing wrong with questioning this behavior, it's animal abuse and demented. What do piranhas primarily eat? FISH... not mice.

 

[UtadaBarkley]

You have to love the assholes that come in and try to rationalize such stupid behavior. Should people have piranhas in their houses? Think about that...

So what if mice have no purpose? Do you have a purpose? No. Should I dump you into a piranha tank because you're meat to my pets? There's nothing wrong with questioning this behavior, it's animal abuse and demented. What do piranhas primarily eat? FISH... not mice.

LOL. What do cats eat in the wild? What difference does it make? HERE we go AGAIN with comparing a human being with an animal. It never fails. How am I demented by not having a problem with watching nature take its course? That makes me demented? Don't you think you're overexaggerating just a tad? I happen to think I'm a very human and dignified human being, yet I'm labeled as demented? LOL.

 

[tenchir]

LOL. What do cats eat in the wild? What difference does it make? HERE we go AGAIN with comparing a human being with an animal. It never fails. How am I demented by not having a problem with watching nature take its course? That makes me demented? Don't you think you're overexaggerating just a tad? I happen to think I'm a very human and dignified human being, yet I'm labeled as demented? LOL.

There are psychos out there who share your view. You think a normal person wouldn't be a bit repulsed at what they are seeing? This isn't nature, the mouse didn't just jump into the tank.

 

[UtadaBarkley]

There are psychos out there who share your view. You think a normal person wouldn't be a bit repulsed at what they are seeing?

Believe me, I'm the furtherest thing from a psycho. In fact I consider people that put animals on a pedestal higher than human beings to be more touched in the head if anything. How someone can personally attack my character based on my views about that video is what's psycho, don't ya think?

It makes me an asshole because I don't get emotional over seeing a mouse get eaten by another animal? You guys must all be vegans. I'm sure you reasearch every product before you make a purchase to make sure it hasn't been tested on animals beforehand as well.

 

[Kuroyume]

I'm calling you demented? Was it you that fed the mouse to the pirhanas and taped it for distribution throughout the internet?

How is nature taking its course here? Are you telling me that white domesticated mice constantly fall into fish tanks in the jungle with no chance of escaping from a group of pirahanas? WOW. Look, I and others in this thread are not stupid and we know of the food chain, but you don't have to be an expert in ecology to know these mice are not found in the same environments that these pirahnas are found in... Do I cringe when a cat eats a mouse? No. Do I cringe when humans trap an animal so that another WILD animal can consume it? Yes. Do I cringe when I see people finding this amusing? Yes.

 

[UtadaBarkley]

You have to love the assholes that come in and try to rationalize such stupid behavior. Should people have piranhas in their houses? Think about that...

So what if mice have no purpose? Do you have a purpose? No. Should I dump you into a piranha tank because you're meat to my pets? There's nothing wrong with questioning this behavior, it's animal abuse and demented. What do piranhas primarily eat? FISH... not mice.

If you put it that way, NO animal should be in the house. It's "inhumane" to have a pet, it should be out roaming free, ennjoying it's life. Not there to entertain you, or whoever else deems it as a "pet". See how ridiculous that sounds? Two can play this game.

 

[Kuroyume]

You can domesticate a cat or a dog. You can't domesticate a piranha. Cats and dogs don't need flesh to survive... I'm not arguing about freedom here.

 

[tenchir]

Let's get this straight, the rat wasn't dead beforehand. It had some helped from a nice guy into a tank full of pirahna(I bet this happened a lot in nature). From people description, it was already half eaten and yet it still trying like hell to get out of the tank(we all know that no animal can escape from pirahna in nature :rolleye). This video wasn't aimed to be educational, it was pure entertainment.

 

[Malakhov]

Should people have piranhas in their houses? Think about that...

Why not? Like I said, people like the owner in this video shouldn't but I know there is some very good and respectuous piranhas owners out there and you don't have to feed them live stock all the time either.

See, piranhas are kind of just large tetras with teeth and a name that is bigger than they are. Piranhas are even less aggressive than some cichlids.


Personally I find them boring and I wouldn't bother owning and taking care of one since they require so much attention for what they give you.

I rather own what I have in my avatar (bought another one today!)

 

[Kuroyume]

For the same reasons why so many people are disgusted with this video? You know... the ethics of it all?

Btw, fish are beautiful yeah, but flesh eating fish is just... ugh

 

[UtadaBarkley]

Let's get this straight, the rat wasn't dead beforehand. It had some helped from a nice guy into a tank full of pirahna(I bet this happened in nature). From people description, it was already half eaten and yet it still trying like hell to get out of the tank(we all know that no animal can escape from pirahna in nature). This video wasn't aimed to be educational, it was pure entertainment.

I agree, it was enertainment, and the person that recorded it may or may not have stepped over the ethical boundaries... That can be argued either way I suppose. But I can see where you're coming from. My whole rift with the whole ordeal mainly stems from people pretending that animals are on an equal playing field with humans when they are not. Groups like PETA obviously don't make me any more compasionate about the situation. Their whole philosophy is flawed beyond comprehension.

 

[element]

Should people have piranhas in their houses?

it is actually against the law in many states.

While I think the video is pretty freaking gross and cruel, i compared it to someone feeding a live mouse to a snake. live feeding is live feeding. i do agree it was excessive.

 

[Dujour]

I feel like crying and blast that damned camera man's head at close-range with a shot-gun after torturing him. Nature's nature, but mice don't usually swim, so they're unlikely to meet in nature.

 

[Malakhov]

My whole rift with the whole ordeal mainly stems from people pretending that animals are on an equal playing field with humans when they are not.

You see, I would disagree with that but I dont think this is the place nor the time to discuss it.

I'll just add this though, yes we eat animals and that's that, but you need to respect them. Without them we wouldn't be able to survive.

Tribals who used to hunt and eat animals had the most utmost respect for them because they knew that without them they couldn't survive. They'd go as far as to make sure they wouldn't waste any part of the animal and made arrow heads out of their bones etc... But that guy in the video sure didn't look like someone who had an once of respect for the living.

Anyways, I don't want to get too much into this as I'm an animal lover and it could turn out bad

 

[UtadaBarkley]

You see, I would disagree with that but I dont think this is the place nor the time to discuss it.

I'll just add this though, yes we eat animals and that's that, but you need to respect them. Without them we wouldn't be able to survive.

Tribals who used to hunt and eat animals had the most utmost respect for them because they
knew that without them they couldn't survive. They'd go as far as to make sure they wouldn't waste any part of the animal like make arrow heads out of their bones etc...

Anyways, I don't want to get too much into this as I'm an animal lover and it could turn out bad

No, I respect animals. Believe me, I would never intentionally hurt an animal, and I'm actually quite fond of them. My main thing is that they are not equal to human beings. You can have respect while still knowing the difference.

 

[UtadaBarkley]

I feel like crying and blast that damned camera man's head at close-range with a shot-gun after torturing him. Nature's nature, but mice don't usually swim, so they're unlikely to meet in nature.

See? (you were probably just kididng (at least i hope) ) But that's exactly what I mean.
A human life is equal to a mouse? LOL.

 

[SolidSnakex]

See? (you were probably just kididng (at least i hope) ) But that's exactly what I mean.
A human life is equal to a mouse? LOL.

I think it has more to do with the way the guy seems to be getting off while watching all the happen.

 

[Dujour]

I think this is the difference between killing and murder.

 

[UtadaBarkley]

I think this is the difference between killing and murder.

I'm sorry but it takes 2 humans for a murder to occur. Sure it's wrong to aimlessly kill an animal, and people should be punished when they abuse or needlessly kill animals. But using the term "murder" is the type of overly excessive thing I'm talking about. But the point is moot. We're never going to see eye to eye on this, so it's pointless.

 

[Kuroyume]

How long before some psycho red necks decides to replace their iguana with a komodo dragon?

 

[Shinobi]

But who would video taped it and upload it to the net for people to see?

And who would download it? Obviously a lot of people who can't get over mere curiousity. Nobody who downloaded the video of their own free will can bitch about the guy throwing it up, since you all knew exactly what it was about going in.

Judge yourselves for being curious enough to look at this shit before you judge the guy for filming it. JeffDowns is basically correct...when it comes to their prey, animals don't fuck around. Expecting something softer is simply being naive. To download this vid knowing what it is, then to get all upset because you saw exactly what it said it was, and then get all high and mighty about it is frankly laughable.

With all that said, there's no fucking way I'm looking at it...I could barely stomach watching "Killer Fish".

 

[tenchir]

I didn't watch it.

 

[miyuru]

This is pretty sick because it's *torture*. Had the rat just died in a second like in cartoons or whatever, I wouldn't really care.

It's even more sick from the commentary. These people need to grow up.

 

[ohamsie]

link seems to be down, and I was curious enough to download that eels video, guess I haven't learned my lesson yet.

 

[belgurdo]

This is pretty sick because it's *torture*. Had the rat just died in a second like in cartoons or whatever, I wouldn't really care.

It's even more sick from the commentary. These people need to grow up.

It's not torture. It's life. Piranhas in the wild don't eat pre-killed, pre-processed things, so why should this change because they're in a tank?

 

[teiresias]

I heard Bush considered this for a new execution technique in Texas.

*No, I haven't watched the video, I made the mistake of watching some of the Iraq beheading video . . . not making that mistake again.

 

[belgurdo]

I heard Bush considered this for a new execution technique in Texas.

*No, I haven't watched the video, I made the mistake of watching some of the Iraq beheading video . . . not making that mistake again.

I'd pay-per-view it

 

[UtadaBarkley]

link seems to be down, and I was curious enough to download that eels video, guess I haven't learned my lesson yet.

trust me, it's not bad at all. not in my opinion anyway.

 

[Vark]

Good lord you people obviously don't watch the discovery channel do you?

 

[miyuru]

It's not torture. It's life. Piranhas in the wild don't eat pre-killed, pre-processed things, so why should this change because they're in a tank?

Sorry, I see your point.

It's just the commentary detracts from the fact that this is how nature works. I have no problem watching nature shows, of packs of animals hunting others. But the commentary renders this clip as a mockery of nature.

Agree?

 

[ohamsie]

Well that was....disheartening.

 

[belgurdo]

Sorry, I see your point.

It's just the commentary detracts from the fact that this is how nature works. I have no problem watching nature shows, of packs of animals hunting others. But the commentary renders this clip as a mockery of nature.

Agree?

I'm believing that this was oringally a vid that someone made for education purposes, then some dick leeched the video from whatever site it came from and added the joecartoon stuff.

 

[UtadaBarkley]

I'm believing that this was oringally a vid that someone made for education purposes, then some dick leeched the video from whatever site it came from and added the joecartoon stuff.

Yeah, that's exactly what seems to have happened.

 

[SystemShark]

I'm believing that this was oringally a vid that someone made for education purposes, then some dick leeched the video from whatever site it came from and added the joecartoon stuff.

I doubt if it was actually filmed for educational purposes, but you're right. The Joe Cartoon stuff was definately added after the fact. I don't see the big deal really. I personally own piranha (three to be exact) and it's no different then feeding a boa a mouse. Not as easy to watch happening, but just as "barbaric". More trouble then it's worth though. I feed my piranhas cichlid pellets. Goes down much easier and there's no nasty blood to fakk up my bacteria.

The novelty of feeding live runs it's course too. I've never fed my piranhas anything more then feeder fish, but that can be sick too. The p's usually leave the heads behind and it's quite disconcerting watching a floating fish head still sucking water even when it has no gills/body to speak of. The just kind of bob at the top and move with the water current.

In anycase, piranhas rule.

 

[Zilch]

LOL @ this thread.

I live in the country, there are dogs, cats, horses, mice, domestic birds, etc., etc., living in or near my house, I love animals, but this is nature you fucking limp-wristed pussies. Goodness.

 

[tt_deeb]

I'm believing that this was oringally a vid that someone made for education purposes, then some dick leeched the video from whatever site it came from and added the joecartoon stuff.

Could be.

A little off the current topic. Imagine when people get attacked by these things. Sick.

 

[Diablos]

I'm not sure what's more disturbing... the mouse or that hick's fucking annoying voice. He sounds like he just molested some kids.

 

[Razoric]

Yeah you are not allowed to own Piranhas in South Carolina, but it's most likely due to the fact that they could survive in this environment. Some dumb redneck (like the one in the video) would probably dump those in a pond or river somewhere for kicks.

Anyway, this video was digusting. I love violent films and violent videos on the internet, but this one disturbed me. Watching innocent animals suffer and die is not my idea of entertainment.

 

[human5892]

Yeah, what's happening in the video isn't disgusting or inhumane (just natural), but the video's purpose is pretty reprehensible. I don't think normal compassionate human beings could watch that without feeling pity/sadness/etc.

Myself, I didn't even watch it, after hearing the commentary in the thread. I think I would've been even more disturbed because I own a pet rat (there doesn't seem to be any agreement over whether it's a rat or a mouse), and they're wonderfully nice, intelligent creatures.

 

[Incognito]

I'm sure worse happens in nature, yet it's not filmed. I don't see what the uproar is about.

*shrug*

 

[tedtropy]

I guess a lifetime of violent movies and video games have desynsitized me, as I don't see the big deal over the content of the movie. It was no more grusome than your average Discovery channel show. Still, I can find the actions behind the content objectionable. This guy is obviously just killing the rat for kicks. But hey, we step on cockroaches on-site just because we deem them as disgusting, does this make us any better? Yeah, probably...

 

[Razoric]

Obviously a lot worse happens in nature... what's sick about the video is some kid is basically torturing and innocent animal for kicks. How can you compare stomping on a cockroach to watching a rat, who is struggling to stay alive even after chunks of it's body have been bitten off, getting eaten alive in a fishing tank? You can't.

This shit happens in nature, it shouldnt happen in some punks fishing tank. That kid should be thrown in the ocean so sharks can bit the shit out of his ass.

 

[draven]

I doubt if it was actually filmed for educational purposes, but you're right. The Joe Cartoon stuff was definately added after the fact. I don't see the big deal really. I personally own piranha (three to be exact) and it's no different then feeding a boa a mouse. Not as easy to watch happening, but just as "barbaric". More trouble then it's worth though. I feed my piranhas cichlid pellets. Goes down much easier and there's no nasty blood to fakk up my bacteria.

The novelty of feeding live runs it's course too. I've never fed my piranhas anything more then feeder fish, but that can be sick too. The p's usually leave the heads behind and it's quite disconcerting watching a floating fish head still sucking water even when it has no gills/body to speak of. The just kind of bob at the top and move with the water current.

In anycase, piranhas rule.

I'm not taking sides, but first, it seems that some people don't realize that the sounds seem to be added after the point of filming, and are from joecartoon flash movies (which have a stereotypical redneck hamster/mouse yelling at you and screaming as you kill it). Secondly, after seeing the video and reading the thread, I'm actually more creeped out by the mental image of small floating fish heads with moving mouths floating around a fish tank <shiver>. Definitely not getting a fish tank now

 

[DaCocoBrova]

Seems like there's much more compassion for animals around here than for human beings.

 

[MrAngryFace]

Having owned a hamster for 3 years back in college this video makes me pretty sick to my stomach. Sure, natural order n all that, but that doesnt make it fun to watch

 

[levious]

it'd have been more amusing if it was a cat.

 

[Malakhov]

it'd have been more amusing if it was a cat.

Or you.

 

[levious]

aren't you the one that sought this video out in the first place?