Pixar is not what it used to be... Elio is on his way to another failure

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Disney's Elio Cost $300 Million and Will BOMB Harder Than Lightyear?!

Disney-Pixar’s Elio is shaping up to a MASSIVE failure for Disney, according to tracking. It will only open to $35-40 million and reportedly cost a whopping $300 million. It’s on track to be a bigger bomb than Lightyear. OOF. Watch this podcast episode on YouTube and all major podcast hosts...
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Before anything else, a Pixar film was a cinematic event and paved the way for a new form of animation, starting with Toy Story 1, which is the one I've seen the most and the best in cinema.


The company amazed everyone with its great cultural events. The magic has already been lost because here in Mexico, at least Elio doesn't even have the promotion, and people don't talk about it.


And it's true, it's a piece of trash. It's mentioned that this film should have come out years ago, with production problems, costing $130 million, and Pixar's ineptitude drove the cost up to $300 million...


The film is a copy and paste of other films. The last good film for me was Wall-E.


The use of the same old cast of characters is getting tiresome; it doesn't innovate anymore, the same old Pixar models.

This scene is one of the best in animation and I still watch it and it's better than what Pixar has done, because of how memorable it is and the messages... Toy Story was the evolution of animation.

 
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I don't really care about the box office fixation that seems so common these days.

Maybe I'll check this out if I get a chance. But I haven't seen their last few either. Looks like it's getting good reviews anyway.
 
Whoever greenlit the character designs for Elio should be fired. I hear it's better than most of Pixar's recent slop but that's a low bar and its too visually unappealing for me to give it a shot.
 
My kids are excited to see it.

But yeah, the movie just feels devoid of inspiration. There's the generic protagonist, with his ugly CalArts face. There's the generic sci-fi setting, with its random and forgettable creature designs, which reminds me of a '00s-era Dreamworks movie, or like if someone bloated the wheezy sci-fi parts of Lilo and Stitch up to feature-length. There's the tired retreading of the laziest theme in every screenwriting room, parent issues.

I've liked a few post-Inside Out Pixar movies more than some people. I think Soul is a fascinating and complex movie, and The Incredibles 2 is a great action movie. Coco has some interesting stuff going on. I'm even one of the five people in the world who liked The Good Dinosaur well enough.

But yes, obviously, Pixar is a sad sad thing nowadays.
 
Why the fuck did you use some weird Spanish toy story clip? It's only good in English!!!

TBH though Pixar have been shite for a while. They are overthinking every film. All the emotional parts are fabricated now and remind me of youtube videos with sad music over them

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Onward was the drop off of the studio which had largely been consistent except a wobble now and again (e.g. Cars 2). I really dread what they-re going to do with TS5, I3, Coco 2 etc.
 
cormack12 said:
Why the fuck did you use some weird Spanish toy story clip? It's only good in English!!!

TBH though Pixar have been shite for a while. They are overthinking every film. All the emotional parts are fabricated now and remind me of youtube videos with sad music over them

BABY EATS BABY FOOD ON HIS OWN
Track is Angel by Sarah Mclachlan

Onward was the drop off of the studio which had largely been consistent except a wobble now and again (e.g. Cars 2). I really dread what they-re going to do with TS5, I3, Coco 2 etc.
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I remember a time when all Disney sequels where straight to video. Now they seem to think there lazy ass sequels deserve in theater status.
 
Crazy that an animated movies costs $300M. And that probably doesnt even include marketing does it?

The movie is getting good reviews. But maybe animation overload? Lilo & Stich just came out a month ago.
 
Spiderverse changed the game and Pixar never adapted and doubled down on LGBT content in children's fiction. If I was straight I wouldn't take my kids to see any of their movies except Inside Out 2.
 
StreetsofBeige said:
Crazy that an animated movies costs $300M. And that probably doesnt even include marketing does it?

The movie is getting good reviews. But maybe animation overload? Lilo & Stich just came out a month ago.
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It's probably tricky because a lot of audience tastes these days skew so heavily towards things made for kids. So studios end up doing similar things catering towards that, which leads to burnout but at the same time, a lot of people aren't looking for much variety either
 
I haven't seen much past Onward or that bad dead musician guy one.

They really lost their mojo, and, though I don't agree with it normally, it did feel like a DEI/inclusivity priority then ironically made these recent movies unappealing.

Maybe conflating Pixar and Disney Animation might be a problem too? E.g. if i think the last wave is crap, not realising one or two may have been from Disney Animation studios, then it might negatively impact both of them? I've mixed up their movies plenty of times.

Whoever these new gen talent are...well, they are making some unappealing, boring stuff. This looks like a Concord level design. Ok, maybe not that bad, but a small budget YouTube project.
 
The Last Wish and the Spidey movies set the bar too high, Pixar is just not exciting anymore.

Also... 300 million? really? I need to see a documentary about the life cicle of these movies, how the fuck do they spend this kind of money?
 
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I heard the movie is really good, though. Probably not doing well just because of all the competition at the BO right now. I mean HOTD and 28 years later also just came out.
 
Pixar has been hit or miss for me lately

I loved Incredibles 2, Coco, Luca and Soul

But the rest of their output has been trash especially Turning Red and Elemental

It's amazing to see how much the quality has dropped since the 2000s
 
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This was probably one of their least marketed movie releases ever, maybe Disney didn't want to screw with Lilo & Stitch remake's money stream? Probably should have delayed it, or they just had no confidence in it.

Shame because it looks like Audiences/Critics seem to like it.
 
Movie has no buzzz. All the wrong people are making decisions at Pixar. Lassiter could save them but he is toxic to Disney.
 
I'm just gonna say it: Dreamworks has been consistently outputting better movies than Disnar for the last ten-ish years

Pixar in particular fell off HARD with cars 2
 
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The art style is horrendous. The trailer was meh. Whatever story is there, it felt tired and bland. Just think back to the trailers for Wall-E, Ratatouille, or Up and how they effectively sold novel stories and capitalized on their good will. I feel like they really started to slide with Good Dinosaur where the lack of creative edge met with terrible animation art design and it largely stayed bad since.
 
It's simple. Disney has shift priorities. It is no longer an entertainment company that caters to families. It's a propaganda one that prioritizes chasing their mythical "modern audiences". When you fill your workforce will talentless activists lunatics, you get garbage that appeals to no one. Not just any garbage though, but garbage with unnecessary bloated budgets because no one dares to say no.
 
jason10mm said:
The art style is horrendous. The trailer was meh. Whatever story is there, it felt tired and bland. Just think back to the trailers for Wall-E, Ratatouille, or Up and how they effectively sold novel stories and capitalized on their good will. I feel like they really started to slide with Good Dinosaur where the lack of creative edge met with terrible animation art design and it largely stayed bad since.
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This.

This is what I criticize most about Pixar... They always use the same models for the humans and characters in their films.
 
This new generation of people is mostly shit, especially in the entertainment industry, so it not really surprising that most of the things it creates are shit.
 
It costs more now, and the results are worse. Back in the day producers were handed $10–20 million to create a movie, and a lot of the time they actually delivered. Now studios throw $200 million at a project, and we still get hot garbage. I question the decision making behind a lot of these productions. Why can't they sit down and aim to create something truly special, instead of churning out more mindless crap? We are talking about hundreds of millions, is that not worth something special?

I don't have any experience making movies, and I wouldn't know where to begin. But I've had this idea for a film stuck in my head for a while. It's about a guy who's hit rock bottom living out of his van, surrounded by vintage SGI workstations that he's collected, and its all he really has left. He's broke, can't find a job, and then one morning, he drives through a portal and ends up in the 1990s. With all his hardware, he finds a way to turn his life around by reselling it and starting over. The film would be shot in SFV since its where I grew up.

I asked a friend in the film industry how much it would cost to make something like this. He told me $120,000, for a short film around an hour long. That sounded insane to me. I was thinking it could be done for much less. What's 120K to 200 million? Nothing, but, it just goes to show, these studios are casually throwing around hundreds of millions, of course the results are going to be crap. It's just another job for them, another film to pump out and forget. There's no passion. They know another paycheck is coming, so why bother trying for anything better?

They make films like how I wake up and go to work, its just another day and I think for film making that's not good enough.
 
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This looked a lot better than most of Pixar's latest DEI junk but I guess once the aura was lost you need more than just a good old fashioned movie to get audiences back.
 
Times change, a lot of kids aim for other things, though even myself as a kid I did not like watching cartoons made by Disney and whatnot. I wanted to watch stuff with Kurt Russel and Arnie and all those actions heroes, not cartoon shit.
 
Tertullian said:
My kids are excited to see it.

But yeah, the movie just feels devoid of inspiration. There's the generic protagonist, with his ugly CalArts face. There's the generic sci-fi setting, with its random and forgettable creature designs, which reminds me of a '00s-era Dreamworks movie, or like if someone bloated the wheezy sci-fi parts of Lilo and Stitch up to feature-length. There's the tired retreading of the laziest theme in every screenwriting room, parent issues.

I've liked a few post-Inside Out Pixar movies more than some people. I think Soul is a fascinating and complex movie, and The Incredibles 2 is a great action movie. Coco has some interesting stuff going on. I'm even one of the five people in the world who liked The Good Dinosaur well enough.

But yes, obviously, Pixar is a sad sad thing nowadays.
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I thought Coco was really excellent, it had a lot of heart and Soul was another good one. But the other recent Pixar movies I've seen (Toy Story 4, Onward, Luca, Turning Red, Elemental and Inside Out 2) were boring and often preachy. But to be honest, Disney's own animation studios also had a long of run of subpar movies (Frozen 2, Raya and the Last Dragon, Encanto, Strange World, Wish, Moana 2). Both Pixar and Disney have forgotten what made their animated movies the best in the business.
 
Pixar is hit or miss these days but as a parent i can appreciate them at least putting it in theaters. It's nice finding excuses to take my kid to the theater and making an event out of it.

Coco and Luca are genuinely great, however Encanto tried too hard and I pretend Moana 2 never happened.
 
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Creative companies are neutered because of woke ideologies and corporate policies. They can't make anything that may offend anyone instead of just saying 'SAC UP and enjoy the show!'
 
How to Train your Dragon also came out the week before. Maybe parents just said fuck it. You kids got Lilo last month and Dragon last week. Elio is a pass. Go do something else. We're saving our money.
 
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