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PlatinumGames Community Thread | Platinum maintains its luster forever
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Muchi Muchi Pink
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Inaba worked on R-Type Leo which is my favorite R-Type.
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
Didn't the legend really started here...
Sir Ilpalazzo
Member
You could definitely say that, but then you might also need to mention some of the original Resident Evil games. A lot of the Clover talent (not just Mikami and Kamiya) started to coalesce there.
Platinum games are just super niche. On top of that their games aren't exactly going after the same crowd as Nintendo games so you've got some Platinum fans who don't really see two games as worth the price of a console.
Emperor_EL
Member
Bayonetta is why I didn't give up playing video games, where she goes, I follow. I know 2 will probably be the end of her journey but I hope we can get a Rodin spinoff & above all else a crossover with Devil May Cry.
I really want Platinum to make an Immortal Iron Fist game, I feel like they could do for him in the game world what Brubaker, Fraction & Aja did for him in comics.
I really want Platinum to make an Immortal Iron Fist game, I feel like they could do for him in the game world what Brubaker, Fraction & Aja did for him in comics.
This game is so beautiful. Why can't I play it yet? D:
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
Platinum Games are niche and don't sell well.
Because most gamers hate good games. It's the only explanation.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
Pretty much.
Well duh. We live in a world where Army of Two can sell a fuckton more than Vanquish and Lego Shitty Undercover can sell more than TW101. And Avatar/Avengers are some of the highest grossing box office films of all time.
The Xtortionist
Member
Rising was so much better than it had any right being considering the development cycle. A theoretical Rising 2 is going to obliterate the genre if it has a standard development time. Dat Rising presentation+TW101 levels of content=
toastyToast
Member
As someone who will use a bow in any game it's available in this makes me weep tears of joy.
TC McQueen
Member
I honestly think Platinum suffers from two major problems - shit marketing and consistently underexplaining their game mechanics. The first one means no one besides really hardcore gamers knows their games exist, while the other means that average gamers who stumble upon their titles wind up giving up on them because they can't figure out what they're doing wrong.
I ran into the latter problem with Metal Gear Rising. Until I saw Angry Joe's review, switched over to an Xbox 360 controller, and rotated the left stick, I was fucking terrible at parrying attacks and breaking out of grapples. I at least knew about the dodge move, which allowed me to compensate until the Armstrong fight, but there were at least a half dozen points where I was almost at the point of quitting and I could easily see the average person doing so.
I ran into the latter problem with Metal Gear Rising. Until I saw Angry Joe's review, switched over to an Xbox 360 controller, and rotated the left stick, I was fucking terrible at parrying attacks and breaking out of grapples. I at least knew about the dodge move, which allowed me to compensate until the Armstrong fight, but there were at least a half dozen points where I was almost at the point of quitting and I could easily see the average person doing so.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I kinda agree with this but I like to figure stuff on my own, MGR was a completely different game after I bought and mastered the dodge move(I was pretty much parrying everything before that, and it worked fine that way).
W101 changed for me when I saw the Saur videos, I love how I THOUGHT I was playing the game right and then I see the crazy shit others pull because they actually dedicated their time to master the game.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Fellow Platinum fans: for those who haven't seen it yet, please check this ongoing petition/campaign to help bring Sega/Platinum titles to Steam:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=756674
It's gaining steam (heh) fast, but more help and love is always appreciated. The games may even see a newer, stronger presence on PC! After Rising's port, the rest can certainly do good.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=756674
It's gaining steam (heh) fast, but more help and love is always appreciated. The games may even see a newer, stronger presence on PC! After Rising's port, the rest can certainly do good.
I agree with both of your points - I actually played 90% of Rising not knowing you could dodge, though luckily parrying came very easily to me so it wasn't an issue.
But I'd say a bigger issue why they don't resonate with bigger audiences is the same reason their fans love them - an excess of ridiculously, quirky, over the top personality. While you and I may love that, the average consumer is looking for something a little more bland. It sucks, but that's the way it is. It's why they don't actually GET any marketing - western marketers take one look at their games and say 'I have no idea how to sell this to your average college-going man'.
Most people don't want to know about a sexy bullet witch or 100 little saturday morning cartoon heroes or a goofy slob turned into a classic film hero, done japanese style. The closest thing to a 'normal' topic they covered was a cyborg ninja slicing the shit out of people. That was also backed with a huge IP, and voila - sales. The rest of their shit is just niche by it's very nature due to its content.
The problem is that Sega seems to have pretty much abandoned all their work with Platinum. I doubt they'll put another cent into the games.
We're just lucky Nintendo was willing to fund Bayo2. So unless some other company steps in to fund the PC ports, it's highly unlikely.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Platinum can port it themselves, they just need Sega's permission to do so. They did Rising by themselves!
I'd definitely be down for Vanquish on PC. But I just can't get my hopes up with Sega anymore. It hurts...
TC McQueen
Member
I dunno, I think SEGA might be swayed eventually by the fact that late PC ports of Japanese games seem to be doing pretty well, but that assumes that there are a lot of competent and reasonable people at the top of SEGA's hierarchy. That might be asking too much of Japanese executives right now.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I appreciate that they don't try to appeal to others and just make the game they want to make, it's not something a lot can afford to do these days.
I'll always buy their games Day 1.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
It doesn't hurt to sign anyway 
blackMamba1187
Member
Can I live here?
Various Artists
Banned
Great thread. P* definitely releases some of my favorite games.
Samurai_Heart
Member
If Rising 2 is made hope they can implement the wall run that went missing after the initial Revengence reveal, even if it ends up pointless, I can see Raiden using it against flying enemies though:
Fimbulvetr
Member
Does anyone know how to get the Wonderful One behind the giant wall of water in Operation 4-B? It's right after the Second Vorkken fight.
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RockTurtle
Member
i have a love/hate relationship with sega as publisher.
they take risks but if a game doesn't sell gangbusters you see no sequel (bayo 2 almost....chromehounds ;-
they take risks but if a game doesn't sell gangbusters you see no sequel (bayo 2 almost....chromehounds ;-
i have a love/hate relationship with sega as publisher.
they take risks but if a game doesn't sell gangbusters you see no sequel (bayo 2 almost....chromehounds ;-
Give Valkyria Chronicles to PG.
Mr. Smiley
Member
I'm a bit hesitant on that considering the rumor floating about it (or one of their future titles) being an Xbox One exclusive. I mean if it's true, I'll strongly consider an X1 but my wallet gonna need some prep time and some tissues.
Same.
But I'm happy that there's a mid-tier developer like P* that makes solid action games that are as off-the-wall, oft-kilter and "Japanese" as you can get. This industry is increasingly becoming a hostile environment for games of this sort, so I can at least appreciate that Sega and Nintendo did their part to help these games even exist.
And I guess Konami, too,
even though I loathe that company, now
If Rising 2 is made hope they can implement the wall run that went missing after the initial Revengence reveal, even if it ends up pointless, I can see Raiden using it against flying enemies though:
That looks awsome. At first I was kinda annoyed that i didn't use it once during the whole playthrough. But then i read your comment.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
If the next platinum game is ms exclusive..that ms funded...who gives a fuck..I mean really you can still buy it
i have a love/hate relationship with sega as publisher.
they take risks but if a game doesn't sell gangbusters you see no sequel (bayo 2 almost....chromehounds ;-
That's the best way to be, imo. You get original games, and if they sell well then they get sequels with bigger budgets.
Good games not getting a sequel is no tragedy. It often makes a game stand out far more as an iconic game of its time if it doesn't get a sequel. Bayo 2 will be fun, but the first game sure as hell didn't need a sequel.
Yeah seriously. Bought a WiiU for W101 and that was fucking worth it, if Kamiya directs a Xbone exclusive next I'll just buy one. Next gen will start with a PlatinumGames for me.
Mr. Smiley
Member
I don't wanna wait forever for the next godsend for a better value of the system! Why can't you understand my 1st-world problems?!
(((Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I'd buy it and play it on a friend's XO.
Benzychenz
Member
Yeah but I seriously have no interest in any of Microsofts first party games and I'll already have a PS4 for multiplats. It's really hard to justify buying a console for one game unless you're absolutely loaded.
Guess I'd know how the people complaining about Bayo 2 feel
Though I still don't understand it, Ninty and Platinum have similar design philosophies so if you enjoy one you should enjoy the other /shrug
You have to go through a pipe hidden below the big platform you land on. Try to jump out of the platform until you find it, I don't remember where it was exactly.
Tyrant Rave
Banned
A+ thread
Been a fan ever since Viewtiful Joe and have yet to be really disappointed. Okami really made me love video games and I bought every game besides Infinite Space. I even had a copy of Viewtiful Joe: Red Hot Rumble at one point... Lol
There really is no one else like them. It's a shame Mikami's not with them these days but I'm sure The Evil Within will be awesome.
Been a fan ever since Viewtiful Joe and have yet to be really disappointed. Okami really made me love video games and I bought every game besides Infinite Space. I even had a copy of Viewtiful Joe: Red Hot Rumble at one point... Lol
There really is no one else like them. It's a shame Mikami's not with them these days but I'm sure The Evil Within will be awesome.
They funded an anime movie, so they have not abandoned Bayonetta and Platinum yet.
Exactly. I mean I'm happy that we got a sequel, but Bayo 1 was complete. I mean 100% complete. There is nothing in that game that I want to change. That is why new Bayo 2 mechanics like Umbran Climax seem so unnecessary, at least to me. We had something like UC in the first game, the Climax Brace accessory. I don't blame Platinum though. The first game was as complete as it could get. If we're going to see a Bayo 3, I want it to take the combat system to the next level.
Muchi Muchi Pink
Member
Nah while close to perfection there was still enough to improve upon. Umbrean climax looks really fun like the new toad demon.