Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
They're missing ambitious multiplayer exclusives imo.
I LOVE the fact that MS has Rare, a 200+ person studio, making exclusively multiplayer titles. Sony needs to invest in some studios that specialize in that space.
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PlayStation 5 [OT] Taking Over The World One SSD At A Time
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They're missing ambitious multiplayer exclusives imo.
I LOVE the fact that MS has Rare, a 200+ person studio, making exclusively multiplayer titles. Sony needs to invest in some studios that specialize in that space.
Bryank75
Banned
Who would you recommend? Who is in that space that would be available to acquire or work with PS on a long-term basis?
Bo_Hazem
Banned
I think Killzone had a very solid gameplay for FPS, GG can easily expand a team within to bring quality MP.
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Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
TherapistGaymer
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I only said Abby is penetrable, she might look odd, but would theoretically hit it. (I kept myself virgin till marriage though, so don't think like I'm some kinda pimp)
ToadMan
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Well I'd say it's OK... I really think it's missing a Killzone, Resistance or even MGS. Something like that. Maybe Returnal will step into those shoes but need to know more about it before confirming that.
Depends a lot on what SM:MM and Returnal are actually like - sackboy isn't my thing I don't think. SM we know the gameplay - so it will depend on length of game, story and any little mods they've done. Returnal - could be good but need to know more about the gameplay loop in that one.
Then there's what the third party stuff is like. Cyberpunk - if its worth playing on next gen hardware rather than this, what about the plans for CoD, Battlefront. Don't think I'm interested in AC:Valhalla at this stage but let's see how that looks nearer to launch.
Really the thing that might push me to a day one is if the PS5 in some way boosts PS4 games across the board. Although I'm not really interested in BC when there are actual next gen games available, I might be keen to re-run TLOU2 on better hardware and maybe GoT if that's decent assuming there's nothing better available.
ToadMan
Member
Has there been a single worthwhile Xbox exclusive multiplayer game this gen? I can't think of one.
Sony seem happy letting 3rd parties handle that stuff - seems like their strategy works given the deals they did for CoD and the stuff with Rockstar.
If those studios are happy to do PS exclusives, I'm sure Sony is happy to have the deals with them for multiplayer presence.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
I'm not sure that's a valid approach considering how wickedly fast this industry is changing.
Letting other companies control your destiny in a space while your competition takes the bull by the horns seems like a losing strategy.
Multiplayer is way more important than it's ever been, and it's only growing.
DrDamn
Member
This generation Sony have concentrated more on fulfilling the bigger AAA gaps third parties abandoned - single player story focused games. I think they do see the need to expand on this moving forward - there was a quote to that effect a few years ago but that would have been before Jim took over the reins.
I'd like to see them cover the more tactical shooter space (think SOCOM), the JRPG space with Japan Studios and something in the arcade racer area (ideally a Motorstorm revival but that's unlikely to happen).
Bryank75
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Yes, I think Kojima could do an MGO style game under the Socom title. I also think Level 5 would be a could purchase or maybe create a studio for JRPG's...
But you're definitely right about tactical shooters being absent, stealth games too.
There are lots of gaps in the market at the moment that can attract people to a platform.
PropellerEar
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Sea of Thieves seems moderately popular.
Imtjnotu
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A TV from 2008
it's time to upgrade to atleast a modern day lcd. It took oled a decade to grt where it is today Qned won't be big until atleast 2025 because they can't get the led small enough
FeiRR
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As I wrote after the console reveal event, I'd also like a military shooter exclusive from Sony. They have three IPs which fit the criteria: Killzone, Socom and Resistance. All of them had brilliant MP in the past, although not in all installments. I'd like something slow-paced and tactical, as far from COD as possible.
Neo Blaster
Member
I'd love Demon's Souls on launch day, but so far the only big FP/SP game is Spider-Man: Miles Morales. It's the one to go against Halo Infinite on Xbox.
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TheContact
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This is kinda nuts. This is how they're able to get around load times I imagine (DDR5 r/w is around 50Gb/s (as opposed to the PS5's SSD in pci4.0 which is around 9Gb/s).
ToadMan
Member
Well control - that’s the problem with multiplayer games.
They live and die on the playerbase - and exclusives don’t get the player base of multiplats. So control is lost unless the company works with and lot against those third parties.
Sony’s approach has been to work with the third parties and so far that’s successful for them.
A 1st party exclusive would just be weak out of the gate -that’s the lesson from Xbox this gen.
Bladed Thesis
Member
This sounds so hot.
Bryank75
Banned
I'd love it.... especially if they added rappelling, maps with underwater parts that can be used to flank, zip-line guns / crossbows, good sniping positions, destructible environments that change the dynamics of the map.... choke points etc.
Different modes like hostage rescue, defend vs attack teams, infiltration to gain intel and classic modes like s&d and tdm.
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3liteDragon
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I want an epic AAA war drama from one of Sony’s first-party studios developed from the ground up for PS5.
Bladed Thesis
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Apollo Helios
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dude your profile picture is part of the avatar set given with pre-order, or part of digital deluxe edition?
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
I'd argue there wouldn't be a more important game than having a high quality multiplayer exclusive at launch.
"Get a PS5 so we can play _____ together. No, we can't play if you get a Series X."
Word of mouth. Social gaming. Networking.
Mario Kart, Goldeneye, Smash Bros, Halo...
These things were important 25 years ago. In 2020 and beyond, it's significantly more important.
3liteDragon
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I think it’s Ellie’s tattoo that’s the profile picture bundled with the digital deluxe edition. I found this picture on the Internet somewhere lol.
ZZZZ
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ToadMan
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Yeah I definitely think Sony should look at something like SOCOM again. There’s a hole in the market for that kind of game right now and it could do well. Personally I’d try a remaster if socom 1&2 and see how it does.
Smaller maps -smaller amounts of multiplayer 4v4, 8v8 max would be ok for a platform exclusive.
It seems to me the problem comes with the scale of multiplayer games now - if a battle royale mode isn’t a hit, it’s going to be empty a lot of the time if it’s limited to one platform.
But smaller mp games can still succeed and shouldn’t need major amounts of time and money to get working.
bitbydeath
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I’d vote for Warhawk over it.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
They'd be getting the talent behind Warframe.
Apollo Helios
Member
Not a lot of people posting here, when in fact it is mostly ps fans posting in the other OT. We need to get them here, getting tired of he constant barrage of FUD attacks all over that one.
Each day there is a new guy, mainly naive looking, uninformed, pressing on FUD and then when questioned more it turns out they know much more than they're letting on, but acting with limited knowledge just because they choose to reject hard known facts...
Each day there is a new guy, mainly naive looking, uninformed, pressing on FUD and then when questioned more it turns out they know much more than they're letting on, but acting with limited knowledge just because they choose to reject hard known facts...
Neo Blaster
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Totally agreed, and now that an entire FUD horde had their bans lifted, it will only get worse.
xacto
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Sometimes I think that some people like to just argue, on both sides, otherwise the really obnoxious, uninformed, ill-advised and really bad tempered individuals in the other thread would be simply ignored, since their willful ignorance and malice is really easy to see through.
I understand, it's a forum and people are expected to exchange a serious and sometimes funny back-and-forth, but when you witness personal attacks and feigned stupidity just to fuel some kind of stupid console warring, it makes me wonder if this attitude in there is really what it is expected actually, especially in the light of the recent lifting of the bans.
Even if we get more like-minded and softly spoken Sony fans to post in here, I am not sure that the rest of the antagonizing group is not going to follow over here; in that case, I am not sure what the moderation of this thread will look like, fast and loose, like it is now, or a bit stricter.
Let's try our best and prepare for the worst, the previous experience we had probably taught us that already.
ToadMan
Member
To be honest one of the reasons I like that thread is because - particularly talking about speculation on new tech - it's a good way to test out whether the theories withstand the test of hostile questions and comments. Talking about it in a thread of like minded people is just a round of "yes' - not really a place to resolve how things might work out.
That's why a lot of guys fall out of that thread. In fact if you go look at the OT Justice/Ban review thread there was quite a few of those guy whining about the thread saying they get "hounded" out for posting anything positive about xbox.
To me though, it's just that the arguments have to stand up in the face of cross-examination - if they don't, give in or get banned.
Also, a thread like that wouldn't (and doesn't) exist on Reeee. Personally I just lurk on Reee - it has better "insider" stuff but I steer clear of the political correctness bits. So in a sense the existence of the Speculation thread here is what differentiates GAF. For better or worse....
EDIT : https://www.neogaf.com/threads/neogaf-ban-review-justice-project.1463407/post-259108239
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xacto
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kensama
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Could be cool to have the launch lineup
xacto
Member
It might not be public until Sony will have at least a clearer idea what Xbox will have as a launch lineup. I might be wrong though.
Apollo Helios
Member
This interpolation technic is not something new even on PS4, PSVR breakout box has hardware that specifically works to achieve this with much more object and pixel accurate since it is designed from the ground-up for that purpose. There are three modes where it doubles 30 to 60 or 45 to 90, and mainly doubles 60 to 120 for more fluid VR examples with mostly potato level graphics. Game engines used are also aware of this interpolation down the line so they provide necessary information to better do it with no artifacts through data cables.
While it is quite necessary for VR, I can't see it being applied for flat screens for the same effects with similar 'fps doubler' extra hw, it can be built in the console for all we know but it is absurd to expect an extra module being sold for this purpose and it would be ridiculous to expect it. Again it can be built in the next gen console, or maybe in PS6, but it is always better to draw and shade those frames than interpolate a new frame between two frames. Lets see what the future brings.
Dave_at_Home
Member
What are the odds Sony pulls a last minute boost on hardware? I mean, it may not be anything artificial intelligence related, but it's not out of the ordinary for them to do that.
New here, so just scratching my head on this one.BGs come here, it's a clean thread.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
He's a great person, and an industry professional, got harassed by some goons on other threads..
Bo_Hazem
Banned
This post though
ZywyPL
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Bo_Hazem
Banned
You all know it's true.
Not a fan of Killzone though, only played the last one that had solid gameplay but overall wasn't that good.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
I thought KZ2 was really fun; great co-op play.. reminded me of Halo CE actually.
Killer Sakoman
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Killzone 2 was great both single player and multiplayer. Performance was its only issue
bitbydeath
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LordOfChaos
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You all know it's true.
Outsource a trilogy remaster while working on a reboot of the franchise would be ideal. Killzone had its moments before Shadowfall, so I hope that didn't kill any future plans for it completely.
But given that Horizon was much more successful, they may keep doing that for a while.
ZywyPL
Banned
Well, GG does have two separate teams, so I wonder which one is working on HFW - the one who made HZD, or the one responsible for KZ:SF? IMO it's the latter given the time frame, but anyway, they sill have that second team cooking up something behind the scenes, and that could indeed be another Killzone. I think the best move for the franchise would be to reboot the series (same for Resistance).
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Uhh.. I think I meant to say Resistance here lol
ToadMan
Member
From what I understood, any purchaser is acquiring the studios - assets and personnel who wish to keep their employment there - not the IPs.
So if I were Sony I wouldn't respond to that - that model doesn't work.
EDIT: Actually Sony would be better off trying to purchase/license the IPs from WB. I'd love to see a Sony Batman exclusive...
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
A deal could include a licensing deal too though.. every report on the potential purchase said as much.