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PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale |OT| Use Supers to Smash your Bros!
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Team Ico, Polyphony Digital, and thatgamecompany strike me as overly serious/pretentious "our games are art" studios who don't want their creations featured in a silly mascot fighter. Even with DLC, we'll never see characters/stages from Ico, Shadow of the Colossus, Gran Turismo, or Journey.
They shouldn't even have a input since that their last game has been released ages ago.
Napalm_Frank
Member
Representing GT would probably be licencing hell tho. Or is there something SB could use that Sony owns? I dunno I am not that well versed in the franchise.
Well I guess you could have generic cars that don't exist with a race track that doesn't exist...
Hmm... hopefully a week before the DLC unlock keys get released at least...want that patch!
Resistance is the only franchise in the game with a stage, icons, and backgrounds but no playable character. SuperBot clearly realizes that this is a major franchise, but they don't think it has any characters worth being made playable. I've said it before, but I'm confident DLC isn't going to change anything. SuperBot already made a conscious decision long ago that Resistance is best suited without a character.
I'd be very surprised if any of the DLC characters didn't meet one of the following criteria:
I'll probably get flak for saying this, but I actually think that of the four groups listed above, retro characters have the lowest odds of being made DLC. They'll always take a backseat to promotional characters both first-party and third. There are also "politics" to consider.
I'd be very surprised if any of the DLC characters didn't meet one of the following criteria:
- Characters too new to have made the on-disc cutoff like Kat and Emmett (Tokyo Jungle's Pomeranian, Joel and Ellie from The Last of Us, etc.)
- Classic fan favorite PSX characters in the vein of PaRappa and Sir Dan that SuperBot didn't have time to include on the disc (Dart, Robbit, etc.)
- Characters from major series already represented (God of War, Uncharted, Ratchet & Clank, etc.)
- Third-party characters promoting recent or upcoming games (Connor, Lightning, Ryu Hayabusa, Isaac Clarke, etc.)
I'll probably get flak for saying this, but I actually think that of the four groups listed above, retro characters have the lowest odds of being made DLC. They'll always take a backseat to promotional characters both first-party and third. There are also "politics" to consider.
I also have low hopes for retro DLC characters, even though a Dart/Robbit pack would make this my Game of the Forever it's much more likely that Sony would want to use newer characters.
Speaking of which, wouldn't Kutaro from Puppeteer and Iota from Tearaway make for some cool character selections? They would certainly fit right in alongside cute characters like PaRappa and Toro:
We haven't really seen enough gameplay of Tearaway to know what Iota can really do, but Kutaro's magic scissors and Dynamite Headdy-style head swapping gimmick would certainly make for an interesting moveset.
Speaking of which, wouldn't Kutaro from Puppeteer and Iota from Tearaway make for some cool character selections? They would certainly fit right in alongside cute characters like PaRappa and Toro:
We haven't really seen enough gameplay of Tearaway to know what Iota can really do, but Kutaro's magic scissors and Dynamite Headdy-style head swapping gimmick would certainly make for an interesting moveset.
I also have low hopes for retro DLC characters, even though a Dart/Robbit pack would make this my Game of the Forever it's much more likely that Sony would want to use newer characters.
Speaking of which, wouldn't Kutaro from Puppeteer and Iota from Tearaway make for some cool character selections? They would certainly fit right in alongside cute characters like PaRappa and Toro:
We haven't really seen enough gameplay of Tearaway to know what Iota can really do, but Kutaro's magic scissors and Dynamite Headdy-style head swapping gimmick would certainly make for an interesting moveset.
I personally wouldn't want to see them until their game comes out because I feel like they would be very limited in the moves they can do as not to spoil things for their games that are currently unreleased. For a sequel though, definitely, I'm hoping to see both characters in a potential one.
Coolbgdog12
Member
Sony needs to just boss up and put Wander in the game. Who cares if Team Ico gets mad? They'll get over it. Hell it's not like it changes the perception of a Team Ico game. Their pompousness is making me sick.
Hell why don't Sony just add anyone they can from their first party stable?? The DLC's are basically free anyway so it's not like they are going to be losing money. I wouldn't be surprised if next week they add Dan and Omar Kendall themselves into the game.
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Can't wait for Kat XD !
Right now i just want more stages and match types.
Hell why don't Sony just add anyone they can from their first party stable?? The DLC's are basically free anyway so it's not like they are going to be losing money. I wouldn't be surprised if next week they add Dan and Omar Kendall themselves into the game.
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Can't wait for Kat XD !
Right now i just want more stages and match types.
Wander would be a terrible charcter....very boring moveset....now a colossus stage on the other hand
ScraftyDevil
Banned
No he wouldn't be. If you count the Time Attack weapons and items (Thunder Harpoon, Cloak of Vanishing, Explosive Arrows, etc.), his Agro skills and the Colossi themselves, I could come up with enough moves to fill two movesets.
PowderedToast
Junior Member
yeah you could do loads of fun stuff. hang on bird, call agro to come stomp people, shine sword in their faces
wander wud rule
ScraftyDevil
Banned
he would be praying then stand up
New patch out :O
Raiden
-Changed reaction on forward throw from crumple to flatten.
Nathan Drake
-Increased start up on Cover Wall
Kratos
-Combat Grapple recovery time on block and whiff increased.
-Combat Grapple homing angle has been decreased
General
-Network stability improvements
-2v2 match summary disconnect fix
-AP orbs nots always awarded online fix
-Store button added to main menu
-Removed ability to chain Blind Fire to Run and Gun Retreat to eliminate inescapable online loop.
-Fix to ensure all players will be awarded proper titles at the end of a season
-Fixed belt display on the quick match loading screen
HELL yes on the Raiden nerf, his grab should have never been a crumple.
Raiden
-Changed reaction on forward throw from crumple to flatten.
Nathan Drake
-Increased start up on Cover Wall
Kratos
-Combat Grapple recovery time on block and whiff increased.
-Combat Grapple homing angle has been decreased
General
-Network stability improvements
-2v2 match summary disconnect fix
-AP orbs nots always awarded online fix
-Store button added to main menu
-Removed ability to chain Blind Fire to Run and Gun Retreat to eliminate inescapable online loop.
-Fix to ensure all players will be awarded proper titles at the end of a season
-Fixed belt display on the quick match loading screen
HELL yes on the Raiden nerf, his grab should have never been a crumple.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
NOT ENOUGH!
Seriously, where is Kratos' AP gain nerf? Why does Raiden still have 5 hit confirms? Why didn't Jak or Spike get buffed?
It's a good start, but the upper echelons of the online mode will still be dominated by three characters.
Lots of good changes! Kratos has become pretty beatable these days, but this'll help ensure more characters are seen online.
Personally I'm wondering where the Sly nerfs are, but this patch seems designed to mainly to fix a few overall bugs, get rid of the Raiden/Drake infinites, and quell some of the complaints over Kratos' forward square. I think the next patch we see will bring more significant balance changes.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Microsoft would never approve.
I apologize. Oh those internal devils boiling within me.
Um... wow. Literally not even a minute after installing the patch, I found a very obvious and noticeable bug. Started up the Vita version, the menu music plays normally until the "BATTLE ROYALE!!" part, and then cuts out completely. Didn't happen on the PS3 version though. Anyone else getting this bug?
It probably contains the upcoming DLC.
Haha yep me too
That's my guess.
AnkiRendan
Member
Listening to that interview it seems like Superbot wants to leave Sackboy alone for now. Sigh...oh well.
Oh nice, cant wait to try it
I know people want this, but thats probably the most difficult order to fill out of all the the other ones. And if its coming, it will probably be last.
Its not just a simple matter of "oh just drop everything by five or ten" because combos are dependent on the AP gained by the attack. If they drop the AP requirement, they'd have to rework the combos.
Not impossible by any means, but its just not as simple as it seems.
As im saying this im thinking of a certain kratos combo that would normally grant you the threshold but doesnt for some reason becuase some the attacks grant you less than normal after a certain move. So if they made that one work normally it would probably get you the threshold even if they dropped the AP gain....
Coolbgdog12
Member
same here on Vita.
Gran Turismo does have original tracks, I suppose.
EsotericManiac
Banned
Just got into this game a bit after watching the grand finals at SCR.
Does anyone have a tier list (what they think)? I don't really have a character yet.
Does anyone have a tier list (what they think)? I don't really have a character yet.
Napalm_Frank
Member
After the fresh patch something like this:
Vague Top:
Kratos, Raiden, Parappa, Sly, Ratchet, Fat Princess
Mid high:
Drake, G Cole, E Cole, Radec
Mid:
Dante?, Big Daddy, Heihachi, Sweet Tooth
Mid low:
Toro, Jak, Spike, Dante?
Low:
Sir Dan, Sackboy
Debateable of course. Some are leaning towards Jak being better than people give him credit for. Dante has many things that keep him down but after the discovery of empthy cancel I can see him being better. Honestly I have almost no experience with Dante so don't take my word for it.
Sackboy is another hard one for me. He was very good before but was nerfed. People still play him as before trying to build to lvl 3 wich is way harder nowdays so I dunno if people are just playing him wrong most of the time.
Nice!
Sackboy can't possibly be low tier. He's got more tools than just cake and jam, and cake is still useful.
Also, the winning team at SCR had a Sackboy. He's not high tier, but he's nowhere near low. He's very stage dependent (as are most characters) and is dominant on smaller stages where his level 2 is nigh impossible to dodge.
Also, the winning team at SCR had a Sackboy. He's not high tier, but he's nowhere near low. He's very stage dependent (as are most characters) and is dominant on smaller stages where his level 2 is nigh impossible to dodge.
Napalm_Frank
Member
That is the thing tho. Nobody does it. I dunno how hard it is. Dante also has maybe a little too much vulnerability after starting his combos.
Quite so. It is just as I commented that he is hard for me to say anything on. People play him as they did pre nerf and it doesn't work anymore unless you get a lot of hits.
Apparently his lvl 1 properties are randomized depending on the costume so it can screw up hitconfirms so that is a big blow on him also.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5Jy0vqovYiY
One of the official forum guys posted this, not sure if old. But it's a hit confirm for Jak lvl 1. And confirmed to work from the air.
One of the official forum guys posted this, not sure if old. But it's a hit confirm for Jak lvl 1. And confirmed to work from the air.