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[bender]

I mean, three years for $1, my guy.
Not to mention the $200+ in my account from Quests. It's not really comparable, but hey, you tried!

You have to have three years of Gold of $1, my guy. Math, you tried.

And you don't have $200 from Quests as Game Pass Quests are the vast minority of points you can earn through the Rewards Program. Most Microsoft Rewards come from Bing searches, Daily Sets and Offers via the Rewards App. But hey, you tried and failed, again!

 

[coffinbirth]

You have to have three years of Gold of $1, my guy. Math, you tried.

And you don't have $200 from Quests as Game Pass Quests are the vast minority of points you can earn through the Rewards Program. Most Microsoft Rewards come from Bing searches, Daily Sets and Offers via the Rewards App. But hey, you tried and failed, again!

LOL, what? I UPGRADED MY GOLD TO GAMEPASS FOR $1 AND THAT GOLD WAS FREE. I haven't paid for an Xbox subscription in about eight years, save for that $1.
You can't do this with PS+
We've gone ever this before, it's beating a dead horse.

 

[bender]

LOL, what? I UPGRADED MY GOLD TO GAMEPASS FOR $1 AND THAT GOLD WAS FREE. I haven't paid for an Xbox subscription in about eight years, save for that $1.
You can't do this with PS+
We've gone ever this before, it's beating a dead horse.

You don't understand what free is. Even if you and I are dedicated to getting Microsoft Rewards Points and spend those points on on Gold or Game Pass or Game Pass Ultimate, that's not free. I can also use those same rewards points to buy PS+. That also doesn't make PS+ free. We can keep going "ever" this and you'll be as cogent as that dead horse. Using edge cases to try and prove your point is dumb when the other side of the equation can just as easily use edge cases.

 

[coffinbirth]

You don't understand what free is. Even if you and I are dedicated to getting Microsoft Rewards Points and spend those points on on Gold or Game Pass or Game Pass Ultimate, that's not free. I can also use those same rewards points to buy PS+. That also doesn't make PS+ free. We can keep going "ever" this and you'll be as cogent as that dead horse. Using edge cases to try and prove your point is dumb when the other side of the equation can just as easily use edge cases.

Apparently you don't understand what free is. Using this logic suggests critical thinking is an edge case.
We've had this argument multiple times now, and you always argue time=money, but I get paid to do it...so no. Using your phone at work isn't an edge case. Using the Xbox ecosystem to buy PS+ is your edge case, bud.

 

[leo-j]

For that price? Have you compared to gamepass? The output is pathetic on sonys service - we should expect more

I hope the many cancel the premiem tiers (i sure will) - then it will improve at least

Frankly we should have gotten Tlou part 1 - it is an old game after all

Ps plus Extra at 99 a year is super cheap considering the content. And sorry I consider having the entirety of the PS era FF games, All of sucker punch’s best games, all the naughty dog games (except tlou pt 2) and most of the insomniac games as better than what’s on gamepass. What is the point of day 1 when u rarely even release games for your console to begin with? What Notable Xbox games have come out this year and on gamepass.

 

[bender]

Apparently you don't understand what free is. Using this logic suggests critical thinking is an edge case.
We've had this argument multiple times now, and you always argue time=money, but I get paid to do it...so no. Using your phone at work isn't an edge case. Using the Xbox ecosystem to buy PS+ is your edge case, bud.

Take time out of the equation. Microsoft is paying you rewards points for completing activities. You can use those rewards points; to buy items on their rewards store. You'd be hard pressed to describe Exchanging effort for compensation and trading that compensation for goods and services as free. You can talk about critical thinking when you understand what free is.

It's all an edge case or it wouldn't be offered. And yes, using the Bing app on your phone is an edge case. And I'd also venture to guess that most Rewards Points users aren't using it on the Xbox ecosystem and are buying Taco Bell or an Amazon gift card instead. The vast, vast majority of people don't take advantage $1 upgrade more than once, Microsoft rewards points, stackable PS+ subscriptions, etc. In fact the opposite is true. Most people are paying full price for these services, you know the very thing you are arguing against. It's why the $1 upgrade is offered in the first place as it flags the account for auto-renew and most people don't pay attention. Set it and forget it are the ideal customers for subscription services and why almost every one of them have auto renew turned on by default.

 

[coffinbirth]

Take time out of the equation. Microsoft is paying you rewards points for completing activities. You can use those rewards points; to buy items on their rewards store. You'd be hard pressed to describe Exchanging effort for compensation and trading that compensation for goods and services as free. You can talk about critical thinking when you understand what free is.

It's all an edge case or it wouldn't be offered. And yes, using the Bing app on your phone is an edge case. And I'd also venture to guess that most Rewards Points users aren't using it on the Xbox ecosystem and are buying Taco Bell or an Amazon gift card instead. The vast, vast majority of people don't take advantage $1 upgrade more than once, Microsoft rewards points, stackable PS+ subscriptions, etc. In fact the opposite is true. Most people are paying full price for these services, you know the very thing you are arguing against. It's why the $1 upgrade is offered in the first place as it flags the account for auto-renew and most people don't pay attention. Set it and forget it are the ideal customers for subscription services and why almost every one of them have auto renew turned on by default.

Effort? Really? Ok.
The only effort here is keeping a straight face reading this. The mental gymnastics on display here are far more of an effort than surfing the internet whilst taking a shit.

 

[Chukhopops]

Ps plus Extra at 99 a year is super cheap considering the content. And sorry I consider having the entirety of the PS era FF games, All of sucker punch’s best games, all the naughty dog games (except tlou pt 2) and most of the insomniac games as better than what’s on gamepass. What is the point of day 1 when u rarely even release games for your console to begin with? What Notable Xbox games have come out this year and on gamepass.

And others will prefer having Day 1 releases like Tunic, Total War Warhammer, Two Point Campus, Immortality, Shredder’s revenge, Hitman Trilogy, MLB and many others. Matter of preference.

 

[leo-j]

And others will prefer having Day 1 releases like Tunic, Total War Warhammer, Two Point Campus, Immortality, Shredder’s revenge, Hitman Trilogy, MLB and many others. Matter of preference.

Absolutely. But premium ps5 games like Ghost of Tsushima, Spider man Miles Morales , and Returnal are all 49.99 or more expensive and are on PS plus. Sure day one games are good, but ps plus sometimes gets day 1 games like Control UE, and Stray.

 

[OuterLimits]

I feel like the biggest moron deciding to pay for Premium. The classics offering is so pathetic and they certainly aren't in a rush to add quantity and quality to the PS1/PS2/PSP sections.

 

[MikeM]

Ps plus Extra at 99 a year is super cheap considering the content. And sorry I consider having the entirety of the PS era FF games, All of sucker punch’s best games, all the naughty dog games (except tlou pt 2) and most of the insomniac games as better than what’s on gamepass. What is the point of day 1 when u rarely even release games for your console to begin with? What Notable Xbox games have come out this year and on gamepass.

I do have to agree on the value play from PS Extra. Its $115/year and includes online versus $216/yr for GP (going off full price). Jury is still out on game content for PS Extra though.