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March Climber
Gold Member
The fact that this thread reached a point or ridiculousness where a known poster had to post receipts of their console purchases is just...
fart town usa
Member
I wasn't sure if I would upgrade when they announced it, but the more I looked at the games, the more it made sense to just upgrade to the top tier.
Goes back to playing the PSPgo....
RoadHazard
Gold Member
You've played everything that's on Extra? That's pretty impressive. Or you have very, very narrow taste in games I guess.
Mossybrew
Gold Member
Played or didn't care about, yes. And yes there's games and genres that don't interest me at all, like most people I'd guess.
leo-j
Member
I mean last month they released most of the Yakuza franchise, Stray, and Ghost recon. Now they dropped those games. And the catalog has over 700 games ….. I think it is a lot of content for a couple of months.
For that price? Have you compared to gamepass? The output is pathetic on sonys service - we should expect more
I hope the many cancel the premiem tiers (i sure will) - then it will improve at least
Frankly we should have gotten Tlou part 1 - it is an old game after all
It's PS3 unfortunately so stream only.
CosmicComet
Member
Deathloop on PS Extra?
I guess we know what they are reserving this upcoming state of play for.
I guess we know what they are reserving this upcoming state of play for.
00Magnum Gaming
Member
Death Stranding was playable on PS5 and published by Sony. Deathloop was never playable on Xbox and not owned by MS
fail.
onnextflix5
Member
Just like gamepass , these subs are clearly not worth it for guys like us, who buy and play lots of games,
AeonGaidenRaiden
Member
This is only if you have PS Extra / Premium. If you had Essential like before, you'd get just NFS worth mentioning and most people already had it. Sly Cooper is streaming only. Yeah you got more games for doubl;e the price of the regular PS+ tier. Thats what you paying money for.
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Salz01
Member
Thanks for answering. That sucks
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
PS Plus Premium is $120 per year, while Gamepass is $180 per year.
PS Plus Premium has over 750 games, while Gamepass has ~474 games.
So PS Plus Premium offers more games at a 40% cheaper price.
Shouldn't we expect more from Gamepass?
Kenneth Haight
Gold Member
Looking forward to finally playing deathloop.
Nearly bit for £30 a few times but glad I waited as I’ll get it on extra now and see how it is.
Still so much to play in the backlog.
Nearly bit for £30 a few times but glad I waited as I’ll get it on extra now and see how it is.
Still so much to play in the backlog.
Skifi28
Member
Watch out, somebody will spend three days calculating the metacritic average for each service and prove you wrong!
PS Plus Premium is $120 per year, while Gamepass is $180 per year.
PS Plus Premium has over 750 games, while Gamepass has ~474 games.
So PS Plus Premium offers more games at a 40% cheaper price.
Shouldn't we expect more from Gamepass?
Gudji
Member
You forgot to mention gamepass is indie land not that it matters that much.
PS Plus Premium is $120 per year, while Gamepass is $180 per year.
PS Plus Premium has over 750 games, while Gamepass has ~474 games.
So PS Plus Premium offers more games at a 40% cheaper price.
Shouldn't we expect more from Gamepass?
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coffinbirth
Member
First of all, if you're paying $180 a year for GamePass, you're doing it wrong.
PS Plus Premium is $120 per year, while Gamepass is $180 per year.
PS Plus Premium has over 750 games, while Gamepass has ~474 games.
So PS Plus Premium offers more games at a 40% cheaper price.
Shouldn't we expect more from Gamepass?
Second, how many of those 750 games came out this year? Last...ten years? How about day one releases?
Personally, I expect a helluva lot more from PS+Premium for that price, comparatively.
Chukhopops
Member
PS Plus Premium is $120 per year, while Gamepass is $180 per year.
PS Plus Premium has over 750 games, while Gamepass has ~474 games.
So PS Plus Premium offers more games at a 40% cheaper price.
Shouldn't we expect more from Gamepass?
If it takes you three days to calculate that you must be a bit slow.
But since you ask:
PS Premium average MC today: 71.8
GP (console) average MC today: 77.5
25% of games in PS Premium are over 80 MC versus 48% of GP games (although because of Day 1 and early access, fewer games have a MC rating to begin with).
37% of PS Premium games are under 70 MC versus 17% of GP games (with the same caveat).
Shall we do year of release next? Takes a bit longer to script.
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
Not enough, like 15? Conspicuously absent is gt7 and the last of us. If Sony wants us to pay extra for premium the least they can do is at least make demos for the aaa sony first party games. The demos were the biggest reason I paid extra and so far horizon was the only game I've tried on it. Some of the ps1 games are cool but the streaming ps3 ones sucked for me.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Gamepass has better games (according to MC) and way, way more day one games. So no.
PS Plus Premium is $120 per year, while Gamepass is $180 per year.
PS Plus Premium has over 750 games, while Gamepass has ~474 games.
So PS Plus Premium offers more games at a 40% cheaper price.
Shouldn't we expect more from Gamepass?
Chukhopops
Member
Jesus, did someone hurt you? Its only games
Yeah quantity is what this is all about. Especially love those amazing streaming ps3 titles
PS Plus Premium is $120 per year, while Gamepass is $180 per year.
PS Plus Premium has over 750 games, while Gamepass has ~474 games.
So PS Plus Premium offers more games at a 40% cheaper price.
Shouldn't we expect more from Gamepass?
PS has 99% really old stuff - THAT is the issue
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
You said the "output" is pathetic, implying that you're talking about quantity.
But sure. Let's talk about quality then. PS Plus have games like:
- Demon's Souls (92/100)
- Ghost of Tsushima Director's Cut (87/100)
- Death Stranding Director's Cut (85/100)
- Celeste (92/100)
- Returnal (86/100)
- Ratchet & Clank (85/100)
- TLOU 1 Remastered (95/100)
- Hollow Knight (90/100)
- Spider-Man (87/100)
- Spider-Man Miles Morales (85/100)
- Bloodborne (92/100)
- Red Dead Redemption 2 (97/100)
- Uncharted Lost Legacy (84/100)
- Dead Cells (89/100)
- Stray (83/100)
- Control Ultimate Edition (87/100)
- Outer Wilds (85/100)
- Final Fantasy VII Intergrade (89/100)
- TLOU Remastered (95/100)
- Uncharted 4 (93/100)
- God of War (94/100)
Or do you only want the latest no-name AA games that don't rank beyond 70/100? I'd rather have higher-quality titles that I'd actually want to play rather than shovelware that no one cares about after 2 days of launch.
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Yes, there are loopholes to GP, but if you're comparing services, you gotta do it at their retail prices.
I don't care how old the games are as long as they are good. I'll reboot God of War, Uncharted, Returnal, TLOU 2, every now and then (I'm about to start God of War's 5th run next week) rather than playing Outriders or The Medium even if they were available on day one.
Quality trumps all.
Each to his own -- more power to you if you like some other service -- but PS+ offers the best value to me. Having said that, I generally don't like subscriptions at all and think all of them should go away.
Also, remember when Gamepass launched five years ago and how it looked? It took Gamepass 5+ years to be where it's at, and PS+ Premium is already there in two months. That's important context.
That is stuff that is usually on sale - the monetary value is low
So yes your list only proves my point. Only older, hence cheaper, stuff. Sure, YOU might prefer Uncharted 4 over Forza Horizon 5 or Halo infinite, Starfield etc - but the monetary value is not even comparable
Sony is puttin the bargain bin in their service - this is just fact. Sure Bloodborne is amazing - but try buying it in 2022? It wont cost you much…
Zathalus
Member
You are using Gamepass Ultimate pricing, so don't forget the almost 100 EA games you get access to as well.
PS Plus Premium is $120 per year, while Gamepass is $180 per year.
PS Plus Premium has over 750 games, while Gamepass has ~474 games.
So PS Plus Premium offers more games at a 40% cheaper price.
Shouldn't we expect more from Gamepass?
jm89
Member
I'm sorry but is that supposed to be a good thing?
SkylineRKR
Member
Essential is a great deal. I have Premium for a year but I reckon Essential is the same bar PS3 streaming and timed demos.
Well, I browsed through it and saw Trials of Mana, R-Type Final 2 (which I bought on Xbox at launch, since X|S boosted), MK11, Crash 4, Miles Morales, Demon's, Death Stranding DE, Wreckfest, Ghost of Tsushima. Returnal, FFVII Intergrade etc. This is a great deal. I bought FFVII Intergrade on sale, some time ago but wish I hadn't. Returnal I also bought on sale but it was a year ago and I love the game anyway. On sale still meant they cost me about 50 bucks each.
But if you don't have these games and want a few of them, lowest price I can find on a new copy of Returnal is this:
https://www.budgetgaming.nl/ps5/returnal.html Cheapest spotted Returnal is still 66 euros.
Same goes for Ghost DE while Intergrade can be grabbed for 40 and Demon's for 50. Even Morales's lowest retail price here is 45 ish. These Sony games are kind of going the way of Nintendo, barely dropping in price.
Well, I browsed through it and saw Trials of Mana, R-Type Final 2 (which I bought on Xbox at launch, since X|S boosted), MK11, Crash 4, Miles Morales, Demon's, Death Stranding DE, Wreckfest, Ghost of Tsushima. Returnal, FFVII Intergrade etc. This is a great deal. I bought FFVII Intergrade on sale, some time ago but wish I hadn't. Returnal I also bought on sale but it was a year ago and I love the game anyway. On sale still meant they cost me about 50 bucks each.
But if you don't have these games and want a few of them, lowest price I can find on a new copy of Returnal is this:
https://www.budgetgaming.nl/ps5/returnal.html Cheapest spotted Returnal is still 66 euros.
Same goes for Ghost DE while Intergrade can be grabbed for 40 and Demon's for 50. Even Morales's lowest retail price here is 45 ish. These Sony games are kind of going the way of Nintendo, barely dropping in price.
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pasterpl
Member
Yes.
Roman Empire
Member
As someone who played extensively Granblue I'll be blunt. It has great fundamentals and is easy to get into it, but the online is dead. They should have grabbed this and announced it last month before the Evo 2022 tournament. Such a missed opportunity by Sony.
Zathalus
Member
NHL, FIFA, Madden, F1, UFC, Grid Legends, Mass Effect Legendary Edition, It takes Two, Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order, Need for Speed.
Then all the BC classics like all the Dragon Age games, Dead Space, Skate, etc.
Seems worth it to me.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Weird talking point when just a few days ago a 91/100 "AA" game launched day one on Gamepass. And yes, I prefer playing great new games instead of great old games that I have already played before
SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
I imagine being one of the month Plus games will help that though.
“There are three kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics”
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
I included those EA Play games.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
"At this price, PS+ out is pathetic vs Gamepass. We should expect more"
But PS+ offers 300+ more games at 40% cheaper price than Gamepass.
"But the quality of the games is low."
I posted a list of 20+ 85+ MC AAA games.
"But these are old games"
Many of those games are less than a year or two old. Same as Gamepass.
"But the monetary value of those games are low."
Wow.
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bender
What time is it?
You can say the same thing with paying $120 for Sony's offering.
Captain Toad
Banned
And seeing as the stuff on Premium is weak, we really should be comparing the Extra price to Gamepass, making PS+ an even better deal at under $100 a year.
PS Plus Premium is $120 per year, while Gamepass is $180 per year.
PS Plus Premium has over 750 games, while Gamepass has ~474 games.
So PS Plus Premium offers more games at a 40% cheaper price.
Shouldn't we expect more from Gamepass?
Captain Toad
Banned
You might want to check the games actually on PS+ Extra. I think you'd be disappointed in how good it is.
As someone who has both, PS+ Extra has a lot more high quality AAA games than GamePass right now. It just does.
It's all in the wrist
Member
The PS3 games are dead to me.
That said, good month!
That said, good month!
coffinbirth
Member
Yup, but we both know it's not nearly as cheap.
bender
What time is it?
I upgraded 10 years of Plus for $149.99. And if I'm generous, I'll say I paid on average of $25 a year for Plus in the first place.
coffinbirth
Member
I mean, three years for $1, my guy.
Not to mention the $200+ in my account from Quests. It's not really comparable, but hey, you tried!