MS Gold doesn't treat anyone well anywhere.
PlayStation Plus Thread: Plus What? PLUS EVERYTHING!
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MS Gold doesn't treat anyone well anywhere.
Z_Y
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Yes.....that would indeed be the perfect response. Why don't you put that list together and let us know what you think? I would but man...I really need to start playing Foosball 2012. My PS+ backlog is getting out of hand.
Their loss obviously. There's nothing "crummy" about Rochard or Quantum Conundrum anymore than there's something crummy about The Walking Dead, Super Meat Boy, Minecraft, or any other small downloadable game that has managed to blow up in popularity. Maybe there's a reason the former aren't as popular, but maybe those reasons aren't tied to the actual quality of the games. Honestly, with all the times it's been discounted at this point, do we really believe Red Dead Redemption has somehow not found its way into the hands of the gamers who wanted to play it, including tons of Plus members? It's an awesome game, but what do we actually gain by getting an awesome game added to our lists if we already own it or played it?
You can tell the PS+ SCEE team are passionate PS3 players.
Wouldn't be surprised if the SCEA team are primarily iOS gamers. They have no fucking clue what PS3 owners want.
No trophies = everyone would complain.Hmm. If they can put it on Plus for free, I don't know why they haven't. It must only sell about 1 copy a week
You need to understand who you're talking to.
Derrick likes five games a year, and "likes" is putting it VERY strongly. He buys those five games at release, then complains that they're not worth the full retail price, then complains about how there are modes in it he doesn't like. He then demands these are the only games released on PS+, and anything other than those is bad, but if they ever are released he complains that he already owns them.
You can't make Derrick happy. Leave him be.
Z_Y
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Yes...and it is just as depressing seeing it all typed out like that as it is in my cold, lonely game-less heart. Thank you for that.
Zumblakladla
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Well let's wait to be released and make something afterwards. I bet it would be awesome. I've never played the game, but I definetly will after 6th... Great BD present!
That's going a bit too far.
The US and European gaming markets are incredibly different in terms of revenue, overall sales, and demand. Publishers have different requirements, expectations, and quotas to meet, considering what regions you're comparing. I'm sure that the PS+ team in the US would give us Far Cry 3, DmC, and MGS: Revengeance tomorrow if it were possible.
Who knows what deals are possible for PS+ here or there and to what degree they are feasible. Certainly not you.
Yep, there was some serious demand for foosball, I think folks were threatening not to renew if it wasn't free.
I'm not sure how my example against NA getting sleeping dogs turned into you hoping for deus ex
either way if Deus Ex is that big of a game for you that you would skip the high priced new releases... you can get it for $15 shipped no problem in the USA or £7.77 shipped in the UK, it's not like it's expensive to get... at the very least it's way cheaper than DS3/sly will be and you could play it while you wait for DS3 and sly to go down in price *shrugs*
Actually I have a $20 gift card from christmas so I was going to get Sly for $20 anyway. I don't see why you have a problem with waiting until games go on sale/free. Here are the EU games I have never played: Vanquish, Mortal Kombat, Motorstorm, Bulletstorm, Sleeping Dogs, f1 Racers, that PSN LOTR game. So your saying with that backlog I should still go out and buy games at full price because the are "new" even though I know wholeheartedly know I wont even touch them right now. By the time I get done with those games they most likely will have gone on sale and I'd be kicking myself I didn't wait. The economy is still rough yo.
I had this same talk with a Neogaf broadcaster who was streaming DMC yesterday and thinking that since I had heard the rumor about Sleeping Dogs would go free and not buying it until then he thought I was saying it was a "bad game". No, I never said that, and I think its a great game but why rush out to by something when you have stuff to play and it's coming out for free very soon.
After looking at this list I'm noticing a few things that are incorrect so I'll assemble a list of my own and post it here when it's done.
Good job ignoring everything else that's hit the service in the past few months. Try to address the accusation that the US PS+ team doesn't understand what gamers want next time.
That'd be pretty awesome of you.
The American gaming market is significantly bigger than Europe's.
It is irrational to expect every week to be equally appealing to everyone. Some weeks they release big mainstream games, some weeks niche PSN titles, and other times there's filler. This will not change.
lol wut
For Sony? No.
It would certainly explain the focus on smaller games that we usually get.
Didn't someone find that bug where we could move the store forward in time by changing the date at the end of the week (like Friday) and see all the Plus goodies for that next week. Whatever happened to that?
I'm not sure that's true, but that's not what he's saying anyway. Publishers (probably) get a certain amount/percentage for every time their game is downloaded via Plus. There are more PS3s in Europe than in NA, so it's easier for SCEE to convince a publisher to come onboard than it is SCEA.
Don't know why Sony doesn't just make PS+ universal. Then you have all of your install base available in negotiations, and I assume you could eliminate some overhead.
They might control more of the ratio of consoles in Europe, but in terms of raw numbers the US market has always been bigger.
Yeah, nothing says "passionate gamer" like big AAA titles than any frat boy could name.
I'm not sure where you got that I had a problem with waiting for games to go free
: in general i rarely buy any games with in 6 months of their release because I wait for them to go dirt cheap, if someone wants to wait and hope for them to go free on plus that is their choice and I have no issue with that and wasn't even remotely close to the point I was making with saying you could buy deus ex.What I was saying with that was pretty much the exact opposite as you took it. You said
My point was if deus ex was that important to you, you could always spend $10-15 on it (and to be clear that is a could, not a should or a have to) instead of sly and DS3 at full price. AKA that you could use deus ex to avoid running out and buying games because they are new. I haven't a clue how
became
to you.
Regions. They command a lot in the entertainment industry.
Sorry, I should have been more clear but I'm posting from my PS3 since my pc is down. I don't so much have an issue with the content being offered by SCEA but in how inconsistent they are. Switching a PSP game for a non-PSP game, hence why foosball got my ire.
Metalmurphy
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Not true at all.
OldJadedGamer
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And yet SCEE spends more money on marketing than SCEA does but SCEI is the parent company who decides what budgets go where.
I was under the impression for Sony that Europe was bigger in terms of raw numbers, not just ratio. By all means, throw some numbers my way to prove it either way, I'm curious.
This is one possible deal, but it's also possible that Sony pays the publisher a fixed amount up front regardless of who downloads the game. I remember reading once that this is how the free app of the week on iOS works. Big publishers will want more money for big titles than for smaller games, with Sony's reward obviously being more subscribers the better your game offers are. The last part of your argument stands in both, namely that a bigger installed base means bigger potential playoffs for both parties.
You mean make it free? Then where would they get the money to negotiate the deals?
DigitalDevil
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Yes it's true.
This man has no dick.
More consoles are bought in North America than Europe.
Basically, Sony has a much bigger slice of the console pie in Europe than in the United States. I believe 30 million PS3s were sold over all of Europe by the end of 2012.
No, certainly not. But we are talking months and months of this. Im still spending money on it and as a consumer i have to weigh that value. Its not a matter of being entitled its a consumer comparing products and value. Im glad you find value in it but dont act indignant when others dont. I had stopped finding value in it months ago and yesterdays EU update was a punchline to letting my psplus expire.
To simplify if we were getting updates like EU psplus i would have renewed.
Darksiders, the Vita lineup, & Borderlands alone kind of diminish the "months and months" talk, unless you're talking specifically about Europe getting insane value out of PS+, specifically.
yes, and there are ~25mil us ps3 owners. So Europe is the biggest market for Sony, not the US.
Of course thas what im talking about. It took how long for us ps plus to get Darksiders compared to EU? And the initial Vita lineup was about the only thing you could hold up and thats becoming on par.
The US is the biggest potential market, though. Games, in general, sell better in the United States than in Europe. I'm not just talking about the PS3 here.
Eh, we still get a pretty awesome deal with PS+ as far as I'm concerned.
Closer to 23 million than 24 million.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Sleeping Dogs? That Euro PS+ trial is being put to good use.
Knytt Underground is good, but the characters are terrible.
Seriously. EU is owning it since the start of PS+.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Hoping for Pinball Arcade + 50% off table packs over here.
Or, you know, Sleepy Dogs would be acceptable too.
Or, you know, Sleepy Dogs would be acceptable too.
The_Hitcher89
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Maklershed
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So Sleeping Dogs is Europe only right? Do we know what US is getting yet?
The Grim Heaper
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We should find out what NA is getting later. Hopefully something good. :/
Maklershed
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I want Sleeping Dogs too damnit! :b
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
By the way, does anyone have a spare 30-day US PS+ code? I'm good until 2014, but my RE5 co-op partner's sub ran out so he can't play the game anymore. I don't want to have to play through this shit by myself. ;_; I just want to unlock Mercenaries, dammit.
Wasn't there a Folklore demo way back when? Did they remove it?No demo even. No wonder the studio went under
Looking forward to playing it
i'm expecting table top tanks
indeed there was it's one of the first things on my download list, but yeah i think they removed it 1-2 years ago.
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