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[Murkas]

Spoiler

Fire is a shitty type anyway, nobody cares about it.

Fine, how about:

Water/Fighting
Fire/Psychic
Grass/Dark

This I would have liked! A good looking Water/Fighting starter could have dethroned Empoleon as my favourite starter ever.

Actually no, It's impossible to design a starter better looking than Empoleon

 

[ThatObviousUser]

Is there any real point to Challenger's Cave besides

Spoiler

getting some neat loot including Stone Edge

?

 

[Electivirus]

Actually no, It's impossible to design a starter better looking than Empoleon

*brofist*

 

[Izayoi]

All three of these typings exist. Water/Fighting (Keldeo, Poliwrath), Fire/Psychic (Victini), and Grass/Dark (Cacturne, Shiftry)

Talking about starters here, man.

You can't deny that would be awesome.

Okay, okay. How about:

Water/Bug
Fire/Electric
Grass/Rock

Actually no, It's impossible to design a starter better looking than Empoleon

I like you.

 

[Wiseblade]

This I would have liked! A good looking Water/Fighting starter could have dethroned Empoleon as my favourite starter ever.

Actually no, It's impossible to design a starter better looking than Empoleon

I like you.

 

[EvilMario]

Just for those wondering, these are the types we have not seen yet. Rotom ate up a lot of the missing Electric forms.

Normal/Fire
Normal/Poison
Normal/Electric
Normal/Ground
Normal/Rock
Normal/Ice
Normal/Bug
Normal/Dragon
Normal/Ghost
Normal/Dark
Normal/Steel

Fire/Grass
Fire/Poison
Fire/Ice

Fighting/Flying
Fighting/Electric
Fighting/Ground
Fighting/Ice
Fighting/Dragon
Fighting/Ghost

Water/Fire

Grass/Dragon
Grass/Ghost

Poison/Electric
Poison/Psychic
Poison/Rock
Poison/Ice
Poison/Dragon
Poison/Steel

Electric/Dark
Electric/Rock
Electric/Psychic

Psychic/Bug
Psychic/Ghost

Rock/Ice
Rock/Dragon
Rock/Ghost

Ice/Bug
Ice/Steel

Bug/Psychic
Bug/Dragon
Bug/Dark

Ghost/Steel


Ghost/Steel would be amazing, and Grass/Dragon would have a 4x weakness to Ice, so I'm surprised we haven't seen it yet. Normal/Ghost would be interesting as well, covering up two major weaknesses (Fighting, and Ghost), leaving it only vulnerable to Dark. Psychic/Ghost is interesting, because it's the only possible combo with a 4x weakness to Dark.

 

[Mush]

Imma at Victory Road, gonna get ma ass handed to me in some caves.

Serperior lv.43
Krookodile lv.42
Reuniclus lv42
Swanna lv.43
Galvantula lv.43
Mienshao lv.50

 

[Wiseblade]

Just for those wondering, these are the types we have not seen yet. Rotom ate up a lot of the missing Electric forms.

Normal/Fire
Normal/Poison
Normal/Electric
Normal/Ground
Normal/Rock
Normal/Ice
Normal/Bug
Normal/Dragon
Normal/Ghost
Normal/Dark
Normal/Steel

Fire/Grass
Fire/Poison
Fire/Ice

Fighting/Flying
Fighting/Electric
Fighting/Ground
Fighting/Ice
Fighting/Dragon
Fighting/Ghost

Water/Fire

Grass/Dragon
Grass/Ghost

Poison/Electric
Poison/Psychic
Poison/Rock
Poison/Ice
Poison/Dragon
Poison/Steel

Electric/Dark
Electric/Rock
Electric/Psychic

Psychic/Bug
Psychic/Ghost

Rock/Ice
Rock/Dragon
Rock/Ghost

Ice/Bug
Ice/Steel

Bug/Psychic
Bug/Dragon
Bug/Dark

Ghost/Steel

You may as well add water/bug, Surskit barely counts.

 

[Delio]

God a Grass/Dragon would get ripped apart. Unless it's packing good stats.

 

[Izayoi]

Just for those wondering, these are the types we have not seen yet. Rotom ate up a lot of the missing Electric forms.

WHY DO THEY ALL SOUND LIKE THE COOLEST TYPINGS

God damnit, Gamefreak. Stop that shit.

God a Grass/Dragon would get ripped apart. Unless it's packing good stats.

No worse than Dragon/Flying.

 

[Mush]

Ghost/Steel

Just gets me all giddy thinking about it.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

Just realized you can't give TMs to Pokemon to hold for trading between games. Makes sense I guess.

 

[Izayoi]

Ghost/Steel

Just gets me all giddy thinking about it.

Oh fuck I know.

So good.

Levitate.

Four immunities, one weakness.

Awwww yeah.

 

[EvilMario]

God a Grass/Dragon would get ripped apart. Unless it's packing good stats.

I thought this fit Serperior when I first saw it. I was pretty surprised it didn't end up with Dragon typing.

 

[Murkas]

Nothing but love for Empoleon bros, infact all 3 Gen 4 starters were very well designed.

Has this gen introduced a new Psuedo-legendary pokemon?

 

[Electivirus]

Nothing but love for Empoleon bros, infact all 3 Gen 4 starters were very well designed.

Has this gen introduced a new Psuedo-legendary pokemon?

Yep. Thing's a goddamn beast.

 

[Izayoi]

Nothing but love for Empoleon bros, infact all 3 Gen 4 starters were very well designed.

Has this gen introduced a new Psuedo-legendary pokemon?

Yes. Hydreigon.

And he's a little bitch.

 

[Roto13]

Just realized you can't give TMs to Pokemon to hold for trading between games. Makes sense I guess.

Well, you know. It's not like anyone will ever need one of yours. They can just find it in their own game and use it forever, right?

 

[EvilMario]

Loads of 'psuedo' Legendary Pokemon, but nothing that's going to get banned, it seems. Excadrill and Conkeldurr seem to be having some of the largest effects on the metagame, outside of Drought/Drizzle Pokemon.

 

[EvilMario]

And let it be known that Farfetch'd should have had an evolution this generation and it should have been the amazing Fighting/Flying type.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

Yes. Hydreigon.

And he's a little bitch.

Why is that?

 

[Electivirus]

Well, you know. It's not like anyone will ever need one of yours. They can just find it in their own game and use it forever, right?

It also gives them an excuse to change up the TM list in every game from now on... and I haven't decided whether that'd be a good thing or not.

 

[Murkas]

Hydreigon looks insane, I like its hybrid type alot.

On my way to the 5th Gym leader, Oshwatt at 36, Sandile, Simisear and elctric zebra at 30. Could do with another Pokemon.

 

[Mush]

I thought this fit Serperior when I first saw it. I was pretty surprised it didn't end up with Dragon typing.

Dragon is usually reserved for Legendary's (and crap like Druddigon) so I don't know how you came to the conclusion that they might give it to a starter lol.

 

[Izayoi]

Why is that?

Fast.

Dragon Pulse.

 

[EvilMario]

Hydreigon is an amazing looking Pokemon and it's great to have another Specially based Dragon, but his Dark type, competitively, does little for him. He rarely uses Dark Pulse, in favor of better coverage, and Psychic is an attack type that is seldom used. And now priority Fighting is everywhere. He has anti-trolling speed too, being just under 100. If he was at 100 base, or a bit above, he'd be amazing. I'd give up 5 base power of SpAtk to pull above Garchomp and the base 100.

Still, he's pretty powerful, but it's a shame he didn't receive Nasty Plot. Just look at that beast.

 

[Chet Rippo]

WHY DO THEY ALL SOUND LIKE THE COOLEST TYPINGS

God damnit, Gamefreak. Stop that shit.


No worse than Dragon/Flying.

A lot of them don't make a whole lot of sense.
Normal and Ghost?
Water and Fire?
What kind of Pokemon would those be?

 

[Wiseblade]

Fast.

Dragon Pulse.

You see this guy?
<--
He'll take that easy and OHKO back with Ice Beam.

Even this guy will just outspeed (after 1 turn of speed boost) and OHKO with Hi Jump Kick.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

And let it be known that Farfetch'd should have had an evolution this generation and it should have been the amazing Fighting/Flying type.

There should have been lots of evos this gen... sadly the "Start fresh" mantra put a kibosh on that. Part of the reason I loved Gen 4 so much is that it introduced so many cross-gen evos and gave a much needed boost to many lines.

It also gives them an excuse to change up the TM list in every game from now on... and I haven't decided whether that'd be a good thing or not.

Well I'm doing that just now. I'm going down the list of what I need and cross-referencing with Bulbapedia, and apparently the following TM's have no known location as of yet: TM51

Spoiler

Ally Switch

, TM60

Spoiler

Quash

, and TM87

Spoiler

Swagger

.

And of course, the final TM, TM95

Spoiler

Snarl

, is unobtainable because the Gen 4 item needed to unlock it was never distributed.

 

[EvilMario]

A lot of them don't make a whole lot of sense.
Normal and Ghost?
Water and Fire?
What kind of Pokemon would those be?

And a steam Pokemon of some sort.

 

[Achtius]

What's the best place to grind post-national dex? I can't take the elite 4 yet.

 

[Wiseblade]

I'm going down the list of what I need and cross-referencing with Bulbapedia, and apparently the following TM's have no known location as of yet: TM51

Spoiler

Ally Switch

, TM60

Spoiler

Quash

, and TM87

Spoiler

Swagger

.

All three of those are available in the battle subway for 36/48 BP.

 

[Dr.Palutena]

out of those the types i want to see the most are
Bug/Dragon
Fighting/Flying
Fire/Water
Fighting/Ghost
Fighting/Electric
Ghost/Steel

actually the only typings on that list i wouldn't want to see are the Normal ones as i can't see what could conceptually be any of those that couldn't simply be a pure type instead.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

All three of those are available in the battle subway for 36/48 BP.

Sweet, thanks.

 

[Chet Rippo]

What's the best place to grind post-national dex? I can't take the elite 4 yet.

Big Stadium and Small Court in Nimbasa City.

 

[Roto13]

What's the best place to grind post-national dex? I can't take the elite 4 yet.

The Big and Small stadiums refresh every day. (Maybe twice a day.) And the rich family in Undula Town or whatever it's called. Aside from that, I've done some grinding in the dark grass west of Black City. Lots of level 60s in there.

 

[Mush]

Weird question, how is the Battle Subway? Is it easier/faster to get points than Gen IV or is it more of the same luck-sack crit-o-mania bullshit?

 

[Mr. Sam]

How do you max out a pokemon's beauty in Black/White? I need to evolve a Feebas w/o trading. You can catch a Milotoc but the lowest it's available is about level 60.

 

[EvilMario]

You see this guy?
<--
He'll take that easy and OHKO back with Ice Beam.

Even this guy will just outspeed (after 1 turn of speed boost) and OHKO with Hi Jump Kick.

All calcs are considering Modest Life Orb 252 SpAtk EV Hydra.

To be fair, the most common Empoleon, the Agility/Sub set, takes 50.3% - 59.6% from Draco Meteor which it RESIST. 116% - 136.5% from Focus Blast, and 86.5% - 101.9% from Earth Power do it no favors either. Even Fire Blast will ALWAYS 2HKO (57.7% - 67.9%).

Even the most defensive Empoleon (252 HP / 92 SpDef) you're likely to find takes 60.2% - 71% from Earth Power and up to 94% from Focus Blast. And Sub/Agility set with never OHKO with Ice Beam, Life Orb does 89% - 104.9%, and only Choice Specs is a 100% OHKO on 4HP Hydra.

As for Blaziken, with Protect, he has a chance because he'll be able to outspeed. Although if Hydra is sporting a Choice Scarf, he'll be in trouble. The only move Blaziken can switch in on is Fire Blast.

Just saying.

 

[P90]

Can souldew be found in Unova? When I get to transfering him over to Unova, my Latios from Platinum will want one.

 

[EvilMario]

Can souldew be found in Unova? When I get to transfering him over to Unova, my Latios from Platinum will want one.

Not yet, I believe. You'll have to wait for it in Dream World, or event.

 

[Electivirus]

How do you max out a pokemon's beauty in Black/White? I need to evolve a Feebas w/o trading. You can catch a Milotoc but the lowest it's available is about level 60.

You can't. Only way to evolve it in B/W is via trading with that scale item.

 

[Mr. Sam]

Welp, looks like I'm gonna go get that beauty scale thingy then.

 

[Wiseblade]

To be fair, the most common Empoleon, the Agility/Sub set, takes 50.3% - 59.6% from Draco Meteor which it RESIST. 116% - 136.5% from Focus Blast, and 86.5% - 101.9% from Earth Power do it no favors either. Even Fire Blast will ALWAYS 2HKO (57.7% - 67.9%).

Even the most defensive Empoleon (252 HP / 92 SpDef) you're likely to find takes 60.2% - 71% from Earth Power and up to 94% from Focus Blast.

As for Blaziken, with Protect, he has a chance because he'll be able to outspeed. Although if Hydra is sporting a Choice Scarf, he'll be in trouble. The only move Blaziken can switch in on is Fire Blast.

Just saying.

What defensive Empoleon set is only running 92 SDef? Last time I checked most were running 152 if not max. Yeah, standard Defensive set in Gen IV had ~100 Def EVs to survive (Just!) a LO EQ from Mence and dumped the rest in HP/SDef.

But yeah, neither of them have good odds when they switch in. And Blaziken can't even revenge without protect (and who's using that?).

 

[EvilMario]

What defensive Empoleon set is only running 92 SDef? Last time I checked most were running 152 if not max. Yeah, standard Defensive set in Gen IV had ~100 Def EVs to survive a LO EQ from Mence and dumped the rest in HP/SDef.

But yeah, neither of them have good odds when they switch in. And Blaziken can't even revenge without protect (and who's using that?).

Personally, I've seen almost no Empoleon usage. It's wildly outclassed on both sides now, and has too many common weaknesses to things like Earthquake, and the now common Mach Punch. Ferrothorn did Empoleon no favors.

And that's another reason to run more Defensive EVs too, in my opinion. Being 2HKO by nearly every Outrage in the game when you're trying to predict a Draco Meteor is no fun, nor is take a huge chunk from Ferro's Power Whip, or being OHKO by Roobn's Mach Punch.

Don't get me wrong, I love Blaziken and Empoleon, but they really can't touch Hydregion. But then, I don't think I'd switch Hydra in on either of them too.

 

[Cmagus]

is there a guide out there that lists what level each pokemon evolve at? cause im grinding some and turns out some need stones

 

[Reich]

Yes!

Will he get news moves or .. ?

 

[EvilMario]

is there a guide out there that lists what level each pokemon evolve at? cause im grinding some and turns out some need stones

Check out the Serebii Pokedex and look up your specific Pokemon.

http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-bw/

 

[P90]

Not yet, I believe. You'll have to wait for it in Dream World, or event.

Thx

 

[Roto13]

is there a guide out there that lists what level each pokemon evolve at? cause im grinding some and turns out some need stones

Pretty much every online Pokedex can tell you that. Go to any Pokemon's page on Bulbapedia and it will tell you when or how it evolves, or what it evolved from. There are also lists of Pokemon that evolve using stones or by trade or happiness or whatever, if you want to know up front.