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Pokémon Community Thread: Gotta Catch 'Em All!
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If it adds a new region and experiments more with new gameplay elements then I'd prefer sequels over director's cut version
What if it doesn't add a new region but expands on Unova with new/altered areas?
Syph Medwes
Member
I think that would be good. Personally I'd want more stuff to do post game and a substantial expansion of the story.
ThatObviousUser
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I like the idea more but it's up to Game Freak to capitalize on the potential. Like I said, a 3rd game is 90% the same as the first two, whereas as a sequel this has the possibility to be much more.
I would take a new generation over both options though, but I knew that probably wasn't going to happen right now.
That still works too. As long as there is a sizable amount of new areas to explore then I'm fine with it.
ThatObviousUser
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There's a Pokemon cartoon?!
Do not tell me you're one of these "anime =/= cartoon" people.
Yep i prefer the dual version
With this new look finally Reshiram looks somewhat decent (it's awesome just like Zekrom2)
I'll take the Black Sapphire version.
ThatObviousUser
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I dunno I just think they mean two different things. And I'm not militant about saying anime only comes from Asia, I wouldn't raise an eyebrow if someone said Avatar was an anime.
I like White's Music a bit more so I guess I'm going to go with that.
I'd rather play a sequel than a director's cut tbh. I remember loving GSC since it had all those little references to RBY even though it wasn't really that great of a gen. Just going back through to see what changed was a delight. Although this time round with BW, I don't have nostalgia goggles so it's going to be slightly different this time.
I would.
ThatObviousUser
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Surprised you didn't post that GIF.
I wouldn't use the term "cartoon" to describe most adult orientated anime, but I wouldn't think it incorrect either. It's especially appropriate for something like Pokémon.
Speaking of move tutors, it'd be real nice if they'd just bring back ALL the old ones for B/W2. The idea that if I want, say, a Body Slam Togekiss, I have to give it that move back in Gen III and then transfer it up is pretty nuts, and kinda pointlessly annoying.
Also, anyone else think it's possible we may get actual new pokemon in these games? It's definitely unprecedented, but I don't really see what else could get new forms outside of Kyurem.
Oh, and I really hope they introduce an item or something to make it so that Luvdisc can evolve into Alomomola or vice-versa, or something to that effect. They really need to be tied together.
Also, anyone else think it's possible we may get actual new pokemon in these games? It's definitely unprecedented, but I don't really see what else could get new forms outside of Kyurem.
Oh, and I really hope they introduce an item or something to make it so that Luvdisc can evolve into Alomomola or vice-versa, or something to that effect. They really need to be tied together.
Recently I've been thinking that HGSS missed a trick. Imagine if when you first started a new save file the game secretly checked for a completed copy of FRLG in the GBA slot and would give Red a levelled up and fully evolved version of the team you beat the E4 with the first time on that game.
If it was a secret check, almost no-one would have activated it. You have to get quite a bit into the game to even Pal Park, right?
I don't know, I had Emerald in my DS when I started playing Diamond. Although it could just pull a Mother and say "Before we start, do you have FireRed or LeafGreen? If so, you might want to pop it in the GBA slot. Why? Oh, no reason really."
I haven't played much of Mother/Earthbound. What does that do?
Well, Early in Mother 3 the game asks you to input your name, and then asks you to forget that you did it.
Exterminieren
Banned
Put it this way; I will buy Pokemon White 2 on DS. I probably would not have bought Grey on DS.
It's considerate that Game Freak made White Kyurem so goddamned dope, so I can feel confident in buying White 2 to go with White and dopest Zekrom.
It's considerate that Game Freak made White Kyurem so goddamned dope, so I can feel confident in buying White 2 to go with White and dopest Zekrom.
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
I'd imagine that, if this game expanded the region both to the west and the east, we could head into both New Jersey and New England simultaneously, albeit done in the Pokemon style. Heck, I'd love to see a Pokemon version of Albany or Ithacaa capital city and a college town!
The idea is really cool, but execution is always what matters the most. After the increase in presentation and quality of the plotline in B/W, I don't think it'll be too difficult to come up with some interesting plot twists and interesting things to do, what with the fused Kyurem forms posing a new threat.
And Pokemon the anime can be cartoony at times, though it also tries to be too Speed Racer-esque at times too. Anime is just a broad category for all Japanese animation, and cartoons are and have always been a subset of Western and Japanese animation.
The idea is really cool, but execution is always what matters the most. After the increase in presentation and quality of the plotline in B/W, I don't think it'll be too difficult to come up with some interesting plot twists and interesting things to do, what with the fused Kyurem forms posing a new threat.
And Pokemon the anime can be cartoony at times, though it also tries to be too Speed Racer-esque at times too. Anime is just a broad category for all Japanese animation, and cartoons are and have always been a subset of Western and Japanese animation.
What? Why? They (we) were right.
That'd be a little annoying. It's sort of like figuring out if a move makes "physical contact" right now.
I thought that's what the physical/special split is for?
Rock Throw doesn't "make contact" despite being physical.
exactly
Oh I get you. For calculating things like poison spike and shit?
I'd rather have the original Red and Green version. Those sprites were deliciously disgusting.
not to mention RBYG > GSC
When people say stuff like this I can only presume what they really mean is "at the place I was at the time, I enjoyed the RBYG experience more than I did the GSC a couple of years later" rather than making any statement of quality.
The rock makes contact.
Should I get paralyzed by electricity for throwing a rock?
While the move itself is classified as Physical and runs off the Attack and Defense attributes, the attacking Pokémon doesn't actually touch the defending Pokémon in the attack
Professor Beef
Banned
Rock Throw/Slide do not make contact for the purposes of Flame Body/Cute Charm/etc.
Morally, yes. It's a dick move.
Maybe it's how hard they throw it?
Professor Beef
Banned
And engulfing someone in flames isn't?
They made those flames with their own body. It's practically hand-to-hand combat.
Professor Beef
Banned
So if I throw a rock at Charizard, it's mean. But if he spits fire on me, it's ok?
I QUESTION YOUR MORALS
Charizard made that fire. You did not make that rock. Understand?
Dr.Palutena
Member
Hey you dont bring fire to a rock fight ducky!
I thought RBYG was a more balanced experience overall than GSC. GSC had a lot of forward thinking ideas such as the Pokegear, Apricorns, Time of Day events and breeding. Some of them weren't implemented very well and felt they put it in out of obligation. These ideas are refined and are actually well thought out in later generations rather than feeling like they were shoehorned in half-heartedly. For example, Time of Day events such as the Bug-Catching contest and the Week Siblings seemed just like the developers trying to pad the game out for more game time. Apricorns seemed pretty useless, as its only function was for creating circumstantial Pokeballs. I far prefer the berry system's implementation of being used as items as well as being Pokeblocks. I felt GSC did Pokegear and breeding very well though. RBYG didn't have as many innovations persay, but I didn't feel like any part of it was underdeveloped or cheap.
In terms of story events, I regard GSC as being quite well structured, although some of it is out of RBYG's book. For example, when you beat the last gym, you return to the home town before heading of to E4 felt like a moment of great game design in GSC but RBYG did the exact same thing. The whole return to Kanto in GSC was fun (although the gyms were way too underleveled) but some of it just felt lazy and uninspiring. For example, Cinnabar City becoming just a rock and a half felt like the developer's gave up. Viridian Forest, the closed Safari Zone and Celadon City are victims of this as well.
Ultimately, this is just my opinion and I just don't like it when people try to justify GSC as being heaps better than RBG, just because of nostalgia and returning to Kanto again. Some of it may sound like bitching about minor points or anything that doesn't agree with me but this is just what I think when I compare Gen 1 to Gen 2. I enjoy Gen 2 a lot but just not as much as Gen 1.
Oh, so it's racist to get the version that prominently features the black Pokemon?
I think it's more racist to get the version where you are supposed to get the white Pokemon and use it to beat up the black Pokemon.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Honestly, I wish they'd just erase any old-gen-only moves from any Pokemon you transfer forward. It would help stem the power-creep, and it means you wouldn't have to jump through so many hoops to get specific movesets.