Pokémon Go |OT| As in "Go Outside"

Hm, so XL and XS Pokémon may change their size from one stage of evolution to the next. I've been powering up an XL Caterpie and on finally evolving it became an XS Metapod.
 
Beefy said:
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This been posted? Stay safe!
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I'm pretty impressed with those officers figuring out so quickly how the scheme was working. Goes a long way in protecting people.
 
Darryl said:
you need a walking district or stretches of walkable land. lots of small towns fit this criteria, probably more so than large cities. lots of college towns too. lots of celebrated history out there that isn't limited to big cities
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I think the issue is defining what is a walkable area and what is not. Land that appears to be open stretches of field might be difficult because who owns that land, and what geographical features are actually down there? Using roads as a guideline could be bad in some cases because lots of rural highways have no sidewalks or shoulders, and shouldn't actually be walked. Cities, for better or worse, have pretty well defined walkable areas--if something is labelled a city park, it's almost certainly walkable--and even then it occasionally gets things wrong, like the gym near my place that seems like it should be a landmark but is actually just someone's home that you probably don't want to just hang out by because that's creepy.

If there was a way to crowdsource more of this stuff, that would help (Ingress, of course, had a way to suggest new portals, which are now Pokestops). But someone would have to vet all the submissions to make sure people aren't submitting places that are actually, like, poison gas factories or giant chasms or whatever. I'm not sure what the ultimate solution is, and it seems very difficult to actually design a game like this for rural areas.
 
living near nyc is like playing with god mode when it comes to pokeballs. all you need to do is be sstuck in traffic going east to west (we were going across on 34th ave yesterday) and wife picked up 100 pokeballs in 30 minutes...
 
Guess I got to read up on this game. Have no idea when or why to upgrade Pokemon or why to evolve. I assume I can use these Pokemon to battle eventually? Game tells you nothing at the start ha
 
I live in a small town in France, touching Belgium's border, so the game didn't release here.
Yet there is 3 gyms here (5 mins walk away from each other) already taken by Yellow team (3 different people), Pokéstop everywhere (5 of them in a 300m perimeter), I'm really impressed.
I also joined Yellow because of Zapdos <3
 
KingBroly said:
I feel like this game punishes you if you don't live in certain areas. It feels like everything was designed around this idea that everyone lives in places like NYC or LA.
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There's plenty of stops, gyms, etc. in any halfway urban area. You don't need to be in a metropolis or anything, the Ingress database is pretty thick in any place with more culture than an ocean of strip malls.

Shauneepeak said:
What were the Ingress players thinking? 0_o
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Places need to be of cultural or architectural significance to be a portal. Historical markers, street art, cool looking buildings, public resources like libraries and post offices, etc. all get to count.

Dense residential areas don't have any because the portal rules specifically exclude private residences (for good reason, they don't want people tromping through other random people's yards to play.)

Completely culture-free concrete jungle strip mall shopping centers where you drive to shop at the exact same stores that are in every other identical strip mall don't get any because they're hideous and boring and the underlying goal of gathering these portals is to document points of interest which these strip malls are basically the opposite of.

Biske said:
Aka fuck you if you just live in a normal place with houses.
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Not Niantic's fault your hood is boring.
 
Got back to my flat to discover there's a pokestop out the front of my building, I'm in a very public area so I'm gonna drop a lure on that thing at some point and watch from my window to see if a crowd congregates.

EDIT: Also been very impressed to see how law enforcement and such have been quick to pick up on the game and what it is.
 
talisayNon said:
living near nyc is like playing with god mode when it comes to pokeballs. all you need to do is be sstuck in traffic going east to west (we were going across on 34th ave yesterday) and wife picked up 100 pokeballs in 30 minutes...
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Rub it in why don't you.
 
Future said:
Guess I got to read up on this game. Have no idea when or why to upgrade Pokemon or why to evolve. I assume I can use these Pokemon to battle eventually? Game tells you nothing at the start ha
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You can use Pokemon to capture gyms and hold them. If you keep your Pokemon at a captured gym it gives you Stardust every 20 hours.
 
You do know that the pokestops reset every 5 minutes, right? I have two available from my balcony and I have hundreds of balls.

Tripping balls.
 
I just tried staying still for 30 min and in fact one pokemon showed up. so I guess if you have to work it is something to help.

ps: what is the advantage of sending the pokemon to the professor ?
 
Yeah, there is nothing in my immediate neighborhood, but even a five minute drive puts me in the middle of a handful of gyms and stops. And my neighborhood is still chock full of Pokemon. I just caught almost 30.

You have to live way out in the boondocks to have absolutely nothing around you. Either way, the game is meant for you to explore and go to bustling areas where a lot of people might be playing. Just leave your neighborhood.

Booker.DeWitt said:
I just tried staying still for 30 min and in fact one pokemon showed up. so I guess if you have to work it is something to help.

ps: what is the advantage of sending the pokemon to the professor ?
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You get a candy for that type of Pokemon.
 
chrominance said:
I think the issue is defining what is a walkable area and what is not. Land that appears to be open stretches of field might be difficult because who owns that land, and what geographical features are actually down there? Using roads as a guideline could be bad in some cases because lots of rural highways have no sidewalks or shoulders, and shouldn't actually be walked. Cities, for better or worse, have pretty well defined walkable areas--if something is labelled a city park, it's almost certainly walkable--and even then it occasionally gets things wrong, like the gym near my place that seems like it should be a landmark but is actually just someone's home that you probably don't want to just hang out by because that's creepy.

If there was a way to crowdsource more of this stuff, that would help (Ingress, of course, had a way to suggest new portals, which are now Pokestops). But someone would have to vet all the submissions to make sure people aren't submitting places that are actually, like, poison gas factories or giant chasms or whatever. I'm not sure what the ultimate solution is, and it seems very difficult to actually design a game like this for rural areas.
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they probably used real walking data from either ingress or Google to place Pokemon. so I think defining what is potentially a walking area isnt important - they're not trying to get people to walk places they don't already. it either already is or isn't. most people live near an area they can walk or other people walk frequently, it's like a human necessity. it isn't just a city feature.

in regards to areas not just in the country, but WAY out in the country, I think they just deemed that area unsafe to encourage people to play. you may just need to take hour+ drive field trips to major parks or outdoor malls near you.
 
charlequin said:
Dense residential areas don't have any because the portal rules specifically exclude private residences (for good reason, they don't want people tromping through other random people's yards to play.)

Completely culture-free concrete jungle strip mall shopping centers where you drive to shop at the exact same stores that are in every other identical strip mall don't get any because they're hideous and boring and the underlying goal of gathering these portals is to document points of interest which these strip malls are basically the opposite of.
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To be fair, in Ingress this actually made sense, since the game's story describes its portals as only appearing on places that are landmarks of human creativity and craftsmanship or something. It had a whole background story about that.
 
Future said:
Guess I got to read up on this game. Have no idea when or why to upgrade Pokemon or why to evolve. I assume I can use these Pokemon to battle eventually? Game tells you nothing at the start ha
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Yeah, when it's not making me type my full email and password only to error (waste of damn time), it's frustrating me by telling me nothing about what I can do. So far I've thrown pokeballs at a couple Pokemon that were standing in front of me. No clue what there is to the game beyond that.
 
Made a test with Pokemon Go and Sports Tracker running on the same time. My poor battery. Difference in the distance on 3 km walk was around 100 meters.
Another interesting bit - looks like road category is also considered, I got four Pokemons on the main road towards the town and zero on side road... Also zero Pokemons on the fields and quite a lot in the village (and it is not big village, around 100 houses). Need to go to the town during the week and inspect it a bit. Apparently it is quite packed with PokeStops, gyms and Pokemons.

Developers will need to address issue with GPS signal lock, because turning off the screen loses GPS lock on several HTC phones.
 
Booker.DeWitt said:
I just tried staying still for 30 min and in fact one pokemon showed up. so I guess if you have to work it is something to help.

ps: what is the advantage of sending the pokemon to the professor ?
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Hm. That doesn't work for me at home.

And you get candy for that pokemon when you transfer them. But you can never get that transferred pokemon back
 
Is the reason that more pokemon pop up in certain areas because more people are there? Like if you go where more people are, more rare pokemon will appear? Cause it's really annoying to only see pidgey/rattata/caterpie in my area with maybe one or 2 semi-rare a day.
 
DrM said:
Made a test with Pokemon Go and Sports Tracker running on the same time. My poor battery. Difference in the distance on 3 km walk was around 100 meters.
Another interesting bit - looks like road category is also considered, I got four Pokemons on the main road towards the town and zero on side road...

Developers will need to address issue with GPS signal lock, because turning off the screen loses GPS lock on several HTC phones.
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I read somewhere that where you encounter pokemon is based a lot on where cell phone traffic is/has been which is why places like walmart for instance are littered with mons.
 
Briarios said:
I'm pretty impressed with those officers figuring out so quickly how the scheme was working. Goes a long way in protecting people.
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Cindres said:
EDIT: Also been very impressed to see how law enforcement and such have been quick to pick up on the game and what it is.
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I guess this is only partially related, but I have had two of the most humanizing experiences with law enforcement of my entire life in the last 24 hours. It's really cool how easily people can connect over this game even if they have really nothing else in common
Astral said:
Has anyone tried playing this at a mall? Would a mall have a lot of Pokestops? Not necessarily huh?
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Distresssss said:
Malls would have a lot of pokemon regardless of pokestops though.
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My local mall is a complete gold mine. Could spend all day there but I prefer to hunt outside even with the heat.
 
charlequin said:
Places need to be of cultural or architectural significance to be a portal. Historical markers, street art, cool looking buildings, public resources like libraries and post offices, etc. all get to count.

Dense residential areas don't have any because the portal rules specifically exclude private residences (for good reason, they don't want people tromping through other random people's yards to play.)

Completely culture-free concrete jungle strip mall shopping centers where you drive to shop at the exact same stores that are in every other identical strip mall don't get any because they're hideous and boring and the underlying goal of gathering these portals is to document points of interest which these strip malls are basically the opposite of.
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Pokemon Go isn't Ingress, though. It should be places of gathering, not at art exhibits. The fact that Pokemon can spawn in the middle of someone's backyard or private property with no way to get to it otherwise goes against this premise of going to 'exotic locations.' Just using Ingress as a base shows you how much work they have to do in order to improve it, because it doesn't into account the type of people that play it or the locations they should be going to.
 
Hoo-doo said:
You do know that the pokestops reset every 5 minutes, right? I have two available from my balcony and I have hundreds of balls.

Tripping balls.
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Yeah, it resets technically every 4 minutes because the PokéStop reverts to blue but it remains inaccessible until about 4 minutes 30 seconds. That's when you can spin for all your goodies.
 
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