Pokemon Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire Remakes Announced for 3DS

Well to be honest I only noticed it as time went on and how the other region felt full and complete compare to Jotho.

Johto just comes of worse as after each generation and it's so frustrating how the remake fails to fix this problem.

I am currently replaying Pokémon Crystal and Johto really comes off as an expansion to Kanto and never really gets a chance to shine on its own feet.

Kanto should have never been put into the gen 2 at all.

That explains it then, I never replayed Gold and Silver after my initial run on the GameBoy Color and I never played a copy of Soul Silver since by the time it came out I was waaay too busy with finals :( I really should get back to it despite everything but I might share similar sentiments after looking at that world map. If they ever do two regions again they should first finish the initial region and then make the revisited region sit on the 3DS' SD Card after decompressing it or something so it doesn't eat space the actual new region needs.
 
That explains it then, I never replayed Gold and Silver after my initial run on the GameBoy Color and I never played a copy of Soul Silver since by the time it came out I was waaay too busy with finals :( I really should get back to it despite everything but I might share similar sentiments after looking at that world map. If they ever do two regions again they should first finish the initial region and then make the revisited region sit on the 3DS' SD Card after decompressing it or something so it doesn't eat space the actual new region needs.

The problem may have possibly been space on the game boy color, but today it's almost certainly just the time needed to make the extra region.
 
Poor Flareon needs to get a proper tail. It's too straight and looks like it's glued onto it and makes Flareon stand out as the worst looking eeveelution.

The model team would have to perform some devilish trick to not make Flareon look like the worst eeveelution.
 
Sure hope they make both Treecko and Marshtomp not look like statues. They're both so stiff that it becomes funny, haha.

On the other hand, I can't give them much flak. X/Y had Raichu's feet right for the first time, so that is something to rejoice about.
 
It's probably a scripting error due to item tags.

Indeed it was.

When Generation IV came, the new mail items replaced the IDs of the old ones, so I shifted them to the end of the new numbering.
When Generation V came, it happened again, so I did it again.
When Generation VI came, I realised this would keep happening, so I added 1000 to the numbers but forgot to alter the in-game trade scripts for Hoenn, which caused that to happen.
 
The problem may have possibly been space on the game boy color, but today it's almost certainly just the time needed to make the extra region.

Hmm there you say something, I was under the impression that X and Y hit close to the 3DS cartridge limit already but that might be me misremembering things... yeah I just looked it up, they hold up to 8GB, forget I said anything :P Time is the most important factor, you are right!
 
It really brings a smile to my face to see so much Johto/Gen II hate on GAF. I've been spreading the truth from my first post and it makes these long four years feel worthwhile to see others call Johto a disappointment.

Maybe now I can move on to educating the masses that a Pokémon MMO is a terrible idea.
 
Maybe now I can move on to educating the masses that a Pokémon MMO is a terrible idea.

That's never going to happen, sadly. People were clamoring for the killer-app Pokemon MMO for so long that I doubt they'll ever stop. Even though it's obviously a terrible idea.
 
They should really change some of the Elite 4's Pokemon. Two members use duplicates of two Pokemon followed by another. I'm not sure really sure how much Ice and Ghost types there were in RSE but they should really expand it. I guess it doesn't really matter if they're going to add in rematches anyway.
 
They should really change some of the Elite 4's Pokemon. Two members use duplicates of two Pokemon followed by another. I'm not sure really sure how much Ice and Ghost types there were in RSE but they should really expand it. I guess it doesn't really matter if they're going to add in rematches anyway.

Yeah, I don't see them adding new pokemon to the wild in OR/AS nor do I see them changing the E4 teams before the rematch teams come into play. As we've see with the two remakes so far they leave this things unchanged.

What really gets me is that we're going to have Wallace as the champion since this is going to be based on Emerald most likely.
 
Yeah, I don't see them adding new pokemon to the wild in OR/AS nor do I see them changing the E4 teams before the rematch teams come into play. As we've see with the two remakes so far they leave this things unchanged.

What really gets me is that we're going to have Wallace as the champion since this is going to be based on Emerald most likely.

If they're smart, they'll make the champion version-dependent.
 
It really brings a smile to my face to see so much Johto/Gen II hate on GAF. I've been spreading the truth from my first post and it makes these long four years feel worthwhile to see others call Johto a disappointment.

Maybe now I can move on to educating the masses that a Pokémon MMO is a terrible idea.


Thank God your opinion doesn't matter.

Give one good reason why a Pokemon MMO would be a bad idea, other than potential cannibalization of sales.

Read:a good reason would not include you not liking your own idea of what the game would be like.
 
The model team would have to perform some devilish trick to not make Flareon look like the worst eeveelution.

Ha ha, Game Freak hated Flareon since birth.

Sure hope they make both Treecko and Marshtomp not look like statues. They're both so stiff that it becomes funny, haha.

On the other hand, I can't give them much flak. X/Y had Raichu's feet right for the first time, so that is something to rejoice about.

I just hope they look at Torkoal model from Colosseum and change it, having the smoke always blowing is off putting.

It really brings a smile to my face to see so much Johto/Gen II hate on GAF. I've been spreading the truth from my first post and it makes these long four years feel worthwhile to see others call Johto a disappointment.

I wouldn't say we're hating gen 2 but rather pointing out the flaws that the original version had and what the remake failed to fix.

Maybe now I can move on to educating the masses that a Pokémon MMO is a terrible idea.

They will never give up on that terrible idea, along with having a main series hitting the home console.

If they're smart, they'll make the champion version-dependent.

If they're smart they will realise that it's redundant making Wallace, a water type trainer, champion when the 8th gym is a water type.

Thank God your opinion doesn't matter.

Give one good reason why a Pokemon MMO would be a bad idea, other than potential cannibalization of sales.

Because Pokémon gameplay mechanic doesn't lend itself well in a MMO setting and would have to be changed.

Why are all the dark types in gen2 are in kanto?!?!

Because of poor game designed, at least in X and Y Game Freak did a better job in introducing the fairy type better than Steel and Dark type back in gen 2.
 
Thank God your opinion doesn't matter.

Give one good reason why a Pokemon MMO would be a bad idea, other than potential cannibalization of sales.

Read:a good reason would not include you not liking your own idea of what the game would be like.
Keep those tears flowing.
 
So you got nothin?

Spoiler:
I knew you wouldn't.


I'll open this up to everyone, not just wiseass, who says that anyone who whines about a pokemon mmo hasnt played a pokemon game in 5 years (cuz we all know how black and white were basically MMOs right?) Anyone care to give me a solid reason why an MMO in the Pokemon universe is such a terrible idea? I'll give you potential cannibalization. Anything else?


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Because Pokémon gameplay mechanic doesn't lend itself well in a MMO setting and would have to be changed.

So a Pokemon MMO is a bad idea because it would have to be different than the handheld games? I'm not following. Is that not pretty obvious?

Maybe you guys, instead of saying a Pokemon MMO is a terrible idea, running joke, or whatever. You should say. A Pokemon MMO that would be the same as the handheld games but MMO is a dumb idea.

Even then its debatable.
 
Can someone define "doesn't lend itself well to MMO gameplay" given that it's basically a game devoid of story where the point of the game is to explore the land and grind to get stronger so you can explore more of the land?
 
So you got nothin?

Spoiler:
I knew you wouldn't.
You know what? I'll give you four.

1) Pokémon is ill suited to a massively multiplayer structure.

2) A server based, Online Only game runs directly contrary to the roots of the series and unique appeal of portable consoles

3) The primary demographic can't support a subscription based game and going free to play is entering a mind-boggingly crowded market.

4) Everything you want from a Pokémon MMO is already featured in XY or stands within reason to be featured in ORAS.
 
Can someone define "doesn't lend itself well to MMO gameplay" given that it's basically a game devoid of story where the point of the game is to explore the land and grind to get stronger so you can explore more of the land?

Pokémon battle mechanic is turned- based whereas MMO is real time, If a Pokémon MMO is ever made it would have be part of the spin-off line and not part of the core main series and watered down so it doesn't eat into the main series sales.
 
pls don't bring Pokemon MMO discussion into this thread. nonono

Yeah, I don't see them adding new pokemon to the wild in OR/AS nor do I see them changing the E4 teams before the rematch teams come into play. As we've see with the two remakes so far they leave this things unchanged.

What really gets me is that we're going to have Wallace as the champion since this is going to be based on Emerald most likely.

Yeah, this seems like the most likely thing to happen. I always thought it was weird that we got a water type gym as well as a water type champion. eh, oh well.
 
What I'm guessing/hoping happens is that Steven is Champion and Wallace is Gym leader through the main story, and then for rematches Wallace is promoted to Champion and Steven goes to Meteor Falls.
 
Can someone define "doesn't lend itself well to MMO gameplay" given that it's basically a game devoid of story where the point of the game is to explore the land and grind to get stronger so you can explore more of the land?
The issue comes from the "shared game world" element. Specifically, how wild Pokémon encounters are handled.

Imagine for a moment that you're playing a massively multiplayer version of RBY. You get to Viridian Forest and decide to catch a Pikachu. You're having having no luck, but you see another trainer battling one! So you swoop in and catch it. YEAH, NINTENDO WILL LET THAT HAPPEN.

So only the trainer who initiates a battle can catch a wild Pokémon. You see that trainer about to catch a Pikachu and decide that "if you can't have one, nobody can" and faint every one they find until they give up. YEAH, NINTENDO WILL LET THAT HAPPEN.

"Trainers cannot interact with another trainer's wild battle." THEN WHAT IS THE POINT
 
You know what? I'll give you four.

1) Pokémon is ill suited to a massively multiplayer structure.

2) A server based, Online Only game runs directly contrary to the roots of the series and unique appeal of portable consoles

3) The primary demographic can't support a subscription based game and going free to play is entering a mind-boggingly crowded market.

4) Everything you want from a Pokémon MMO is already featured in XY or stands within reason to be featured in ORAS.

1) How can a franchise be I'll suited to an MMO structure? Could anyone have guessed it would lend itself to a keyboard typing structure, a puzzle game structure, an art game structure, whatever the hell Pokemon Ranger is? The universe and lore is rich enough. What do you mean MMO structure? World of Warcraft? Actually asking I'm not sure what you mean by it.

2) It being different than the past == it shouldnt exist. So every Pokemon game should be offline only on handhelds and follow the formula of the mainline entries? This doesn't equate it to a bad idea at all. In fact. THAT is a bad idea. Who cares about roots when developing a spinoff/new genre?

3) Wizard101, Club Penguin, Neopets, that Disney game. Dude its jot a stretch of the imagination to think Nintendo could pull it off. And thats ignoring that it'd be a different game entirely, possibly allowing the targeting of a different demographic.

4) Literally zero of what I want a Pokemon MMO for, which is a huge world to endlessly explore with my friends, is available in XY, and definitely won't be in ORAS. Multi Battle mode in Battle Maison is all the co op we have. Again, you're projecting what YOU THINK that OTHERS think and attempting to dismiss it.

These are your reasons why a Pokemon MMO is a terrible idea?

The issue comes from the "shared game world" element. Specifically, how wild Pokémon encounters are handled.
Imagine for a moment that you're playing a massively multiplayer version of RBY. You get to Viridian Forest and decide to catch a Pikachu. You're having having no luck, but you see another trainer battling one! So you swoop in and catch it. YEAH, NINTENDO WILL LET THAT HAPPEN.

So only the trainer who initiates a battle can catch a wild Pokémon. You see that trainer about to catch a Pikachu and decide that "if you can't have one, nobody can" and faint every one they find until they give up. YEAH, NINTENDO WILL LET THAT HAPPEN.

"Trainers cannot interact with another trainer's wild battle." THEN WHAT IS THE POINT

Dude you're literally believing that you KNOW (in your imagination) how a Pokemon MMO would play and critiquing its flaws. Lol wut? You might as well be saying "my ideas are dumb it wouldn't even work!"

Pokémon battle mechanic is turned- based whereas MMO is real time, If a Pokémon MMO is ever made it would have be part of the spin-off line and not part of the core main series and watered down so it doesn't eat into the main series sales.

MMOs are not real time. And yeah it'd be a different game. If I can be mean for a moment, the same way you guys think an MMO based on Pokemon would be a dumb idea, I think you guys assuming it would be the same exact thing as the handheld games, and then proceeding to use that as reasoning for arguing against it, is dumb. Really dumb.
 
I'll open this up to everyone, not just wiseass
The tears

SO DELICIOUS

So a Pokemon MMO is a bad idea because it would have to be different than the handheld games? I'm not following. Is that not pretty obvious?

Maybe you guys, instead of saying a Pokemon MMO is a terrible idea, running joke, or whatever. You should say. A Pokemon MMO that would be the same as the handheld games but MMO is a dumb idea.

Even then its debatable.
OK, time to flip this round. What benefits are you seeing to a Pokémon MMO? Enlighten us with your infinite wisdom, please.
 
The tears

SO DELICIOUS


OK, time to flip this round. What benefits are you seeing to a Pokémon MMO? Enlighten us with your infinite wisdom, please.


Why do I have to list benefits of a game coming to existence? It would be fun. I would enjoy it. There ya go. Enlightened?

thank you for projecting your image of me BTW I guess you think I come off as wise?

Yeah dude its not gonna cure cancer or provide a new mathematical function. Its a fucking video game.

All I'm saying is you guys look stupid when you dismiss something that's not that crazy as a stupid idea or a running joke to even mention. Like whoaaaa a massively multiplayer version of an RPG thats crazyyyy that's so dumbbb and unrealistic and I wish people would get over their stupid desires and stop whining when will they see the light, like me? Anyone who wants this hasn't played Pokemon in the past 5 years durdurdur

Real hardheaded and arrogant.
 
I guess you could call this an argument, kind of.
So you want a Pokémon game that doesn't play anything like the mainline Pokémon games (again, WHAT IS THE POINT), with the budget for a "huge world to endlessly explore with friends", that was made to tap into the Club Penguin demographic?

Have fun with that.

Also:
Why do I have to list benefits of a game coming to existence? It would be fun. I would enjoy it. There ya go. Enlightened?
What logic is this? I would enjoy it it everyone gave me £1000, but that doesn't mean they shouldEVERYONE SHOULD GIVE ME £1000
 
So you want a Pokémon game that doesn't play anything like the mainline Pokémon games (again, WHAT IS THE POINT), with the budget for a "huge world to endlessly explore with friends", that was made to tap into the Club Penguin demographic?

Have fun with that.


If I can agree but word it my own way:

Yes. I want a Pokemon MMO that is not exactly the same thing as handheld games (what do you mean what's the point? What the fuck is the point of Pokemon XY but with people crowding the cities? That's stupid) with the budget for a gorgeous immersive open world, made to tap into the demographic of the already existing Pokemon audience.

See how different that is than what you're desperately trying to stuff down my throat?

You lost. A Pokemon MMO could be good. Its possible. Its not even close to a terrible idea. You're welcome. For the enlightenment that stems from my infinite wisdom, that is.

That's all. You can hate/enjoy people hating on Gen 2 now. (You got a lotta malice in your heart mang)

In response to edit: How the hell would I answer you? What are the benefits of a new different Pokemon game? Its a video game. If you want me to list features and advantages over the mainline games, I won't. Because it shouldn't be like the mainline games. That's your dumb idea. That you're arguing against. I don't even know man.
 
Why do I have to list benefits of a game coming to existence? It would be fun. I would enjoy it. There ya go. Enlightened?

thank you for projecting your image of me BTW I guess you think I come off as wise?

Yeah dude its not gonna cure cancer or provide a new mathematical function. Its a fucking video game.

All I'm saying is you guys look stupid when you dismiss something that's not that crazy as a stupid idea or a running joke to even mention. Like whoaaaa a massively multiplayer version of an RPG thats crazyyyy that's so dumbbb and unrealistic and I wish people would get over their stupid desires and stop whining when will they see the light, like me? Anyone who wants this hasn't played Pokemon in the past 5 years durdurdur

Real hardheaded and arrogant.
You haven't answered his question, which is a shame since I'd love to finally hear an argument from the people who keep clamoring for an MMO.

EDIT: Oh, so just graphics. That's nice, I guess.
 
So you want a Pokémon game that doesn't play anything like the mainline Pokémon games (again, WHAT IS THE POINT), with the budget for a "huge world to endlessly explore with friends", that was made to tap into the Club Penguin demographic?

Have fun with that.

Pokemon Snap didn't play anything like a mainline Pokemon game and was still an enjoyable little game. The Pokemon universe is a fun one that would lend itself well to a variety of different gameplay genres.
 
What the fuck do I have to hand you a design document? I don't have to tell you what ian imaginary game would be like in order to disprove your notion that its a bad idea.

Ugh you know what nvm. Yeah dude I just want graphics. That's what I said. I guess you guys win a Pokemon MMO is a bad idea.

I'm over this. I already smacked yalls shit.

On topic: if features from XY are removed I will cry.
 
But Juan tho.

Wallace deserves to be champion just for Juan.

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Just look at that dapper gentleman.
 
Pokemon Snap didn't play anything like a mainline Pokemon game and was still an enjoyable little game. The Pokemon universe is a fun one that would lend itself well to a variety of different gameplay genres.
But that's the defference between saying "Theatrhythm was a good game" and saying "Final Fantasy XVI should be a 3rd person, cover based shooter".
 
Christ, this Pokemon MMO talk has gotten beyond tedious.

I think it is a case where people can't see beyond their own wild fantasies and remain completely blind what a MMO is and has always been. It is seriously like the last two decades or so of MMOs never happened.

EDIT: I probably shouldn't say this, but I really wonder if there isn't something a little darker at play here. Maybe people are just using this ridiculous and completely unrealistic concept of "MMOs" as a vehicle so they can get closer to living in the Pokemon world. I've found the "I wish Pokemon were real" sentiments to be relatively common compared to other fanbases (also with Digimon), so I can't help but make the connection. Or maybe they can't separate the idea of there being a fully 3D console style Pokemon campaign from a MMO. W/e.
 
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