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Police Evict Dakota Pipeline Protesters
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This is pure comedy. We're in for a golden 4 years.
pr0cs
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I like logic which these protesters seem to have forgotten.
The oil is moving either way, pipelines are the safest way to move the product.
Cut and dried... These protesters are protesting for the sake of protesting, nothing more
The feds set it up.
They had to put up a no fly zone because the protester were attacking the helicoper out there with drones.
The police had to shoot down drones.
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2016/10/bernie-sanders-dakota-access-pipeline
He also was there speaking in september.
He also was there speaking in september.
TyphoonStruggle
Member
Lol.
Why didn't David and Goliath find a solution??? I'm so sure David would be able to negotiate some favorable terms /s
DragonSworne
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The contrast between this situation and the government building takeover in Oregon is quite telling about American justice and law enforcement.
AlexFlame116
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Oh no...I think my aunt and uncle are part of that protest group. I really hope they're okay.
Related, a beautiful moment happens at Standing Rock when thousands of wild buffalo appear out of nowhere. A powerful symbol of hope to our people.
http://www.whitewolfpack.com/2016/10/givers-of-courage-thousands-of-wild.html?m=1
And no, waiting for 'meetings' while burial sites and sacred land is destroyed isn't going to happen. That's like bitching about people protesting cause they aren't doing it where you can't see them. Sit and wait hasn't worked for us since forever.
http://www.whitewolfpack.com/2016/10/givers-of-courage-thousands-of-wild.html?m=1
And no, waiting for 'meetings' while burial sites and sacred land is destroyed isn't going to happen. That's like bitching about people protesting cause they aren't doing it where you can't see them. Sit and wait hasn't worked for us since forever.
Morrigan Stark
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Awful.
Saw this on my facebook feed and almost thought it was some edited together footage that wasn't real. The crowd of protesters went wild when they saw the Buffalo.
Compared to the level of violence the protesters have faced? Lol, the only reason the one Oregon terrorist was killed is because he rammed a car into a police barricade. If it wasn't for that no one would've been hurt.
They did a pretty damn good job of it in Oregon. How long were those armed terrorists in there before the police actually did their jobs? And did they actually do their jobs? Because from what I remember they waited for most of them to surrender. Hell, they were making food runs for gods sake!
ElectricThunder
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Almost amazing how depressing the gap of events has been since the older thread on here when this mess first started isn't it? :/
Even worse now given the Oregon mess as folks are feeling extra emboldened to prop up the status quo as Native Issues are the most finely ingrained dog whistle for a great many people at the deepest and darkest of cores even beyond "black" ones.
Sunster
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yea I'm sure that's it
She's extremely lucky her opponent is Trump.
CrimsonCommie
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No votes to be gained from this. Not surprised to see so little about it.
Sunster
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"Oil's gettin' moved one way er' another"
kame-sennin
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And Hilary still hasn't said anything about the pipeline. She's also spoken really critically in private about environmental activists. It's a terrible situation. It's a good thing so many people are taking the leap and going out there to join these water protectors.
Yeah, I gave up hope posting updates in the first thread, since it was obvious only a few of us (mostly native ourselves) cared.
Since there's only like, ten of us here, it ain't gunna gain a whole lot of traction. Look at the Buffalo thread. People cracking jokes.
Cow Mengde
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Now now, Neogaf wants to vote for Hillary. That's gotta count for something.
I thought about this long and hard yesterday. This challenges people's world views of their country. That's why the threads die. It's clear as day what is happening here, the sogs, suppression, private police, state trying to stop the freedom of the press. People shrug off trumped up charges from officials because "meh they'll be struck down tho.." missing the point that this is intimidation, and that those who aren't as high profile as goodman, are still being pursued. There is no wiggle room to even defend the government here.
So what else are people supposed to do? I'm sure everyone thinks it's bad. But it's far far easier to just move on and know it's only some Indians'. I can't compare it to the new civil rights movement we have going on, because black people usually have situations where there is wiggle room. There you have debates and justifications..as bullshit as they are. There's always a "yeah but maybe.."
Here? You know you can't do shit when the government decides you're getting in the way of its money. That's the fact. Your rights and treaties mean notning. Is it a revelation when that's how our government war machine acts worldwide? Not really. But people are up in arms often about the same basic issues that are happening here. yet, when they all combi e to make the perfect storm, like this instance. Silence.
What can anyone really do? And I think that's why there's just blinders put on. You have to accept this to live here.
Hellwarden
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God it's sad how little attention is being paid to this.
At the core of it is the average Jill and Joe in American just doesn't give a shit.
At the core of it is the average Jill and Joe in American just doesn't give a shit.
Cow Mengde
Banned
We can start by raising awareness. If the media won't report it, you can still share on social media. Letting the average Joe know what's going on. Trying to bury it and making jokes about it doesn't help.
kame-sennin
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So much drive-by shit posting.
Are you insane? If that pipeline bursts, they will have no water. If you don't have water, you die. I don't see how Sioux (or anyone else who needs the Missouri) has any other choice. These pipelines burst all the time.
It's not the oil company's yard. The land is sovereign Sioux territory.
Um, whose law? Certainly not Sioux law. And even by U.S. law, the pipeline is violating the treaty.
This whole situation is a hostile military invasion of a sovereign nation.
Do you have evidence of this because that sounds a lot like bullshit.
You are a terrible human being. If the pipeline bursts, they will have no water.
sure
North Dakota pipeline protesters’ drone shot after buzzing police helicopter
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/23/north-dakota-pipeline-protesters-drone-shot-after-/
sir_kevith
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I seen someone comment on a friend's facebook that they support both the Bundy's and the Indians for the same reason.
Yeah, some wealthy rancher not wanting to pay grazing fees is the same as long oppressed indigenous people standing up for their future by securing clean water and fighting for land rights on land that's theirs.
Yeah, some wealthy rancher not wanting to pay grazing fees is the same as long oppressed indigenous people standing up for their future by securing clean water and fighting for land rights on land that's theirs.
TheDeadHeroAlistair
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As reported by the Morton County Sheriff's Department. Considering their involvement in the situation, I'd hardly call them a credible source.
Cow Mengde
Banned
No water, but now they have oil!!! /s.
kame-sennin
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Was the drone black?
Also, the drone was shooting video when the police shot at it and the police version of events SHOCKINGLY looks like total lies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm8E_ZjJgho
Keep pushing nonsense to support an oil pipeline, though
gutter_trash
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IMO water trumps oil, always
fuck the private land bullshit argument, no private person should own such a huge wath of land of that magnitude
fuck the private land bullshit argument, no private person should own such a huge wath of land of that magnitude
Wait so you're telling, and showing with HD video that the protestors werent trying to destroy a helicopter or make it crash..
But what abut USC fans link. The police said they feared for their lives.
I mean do you belive the police and state that have been terrorizing protestors and have a dog in the fight of disparaging them/getting the to.be viewed as thugs..and who are trying to charge media with prison...
Or the protestors that want water.
Man. I dont know what to believe.
Mr. Giggles
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Taco_Human
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Wish I could help throw these guys some support. :/ they do need more exposure. I don't know how it's gonna end up going but it's a sad day. The Buffalo were cool though, super symbolic but what's gonna happen? Probably not much.
Cow Mengde
Banned
You can by sharing the story on social media and telling people about it. I'm in China, and that's the best I can do.
Write your reps and senators. Seriously.
The camp has some donation pages set up, if you check my thread history you'll find it there. On mobile or I'd link you.
Sirpopopop
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I'll be honest.
The Far Left has taken this up as their pet cause. So... as a result, I'm naturally skeptical that this is a great evil.
The Far Left would like us to believe Hillary is just as bad as Donald. I think this issue serves those interests.
The Far Left has taken this up as their pet cause. So... as a result, I'm naturally skeptical that this is a great evil.
The Far Left would like us to believe Hillary is just as bad as Donald. I think this issue serves those interests.
What is "far left" in your definition?
Why not use your mind? And watch footage of what's going on, as well as what's happening to reporters?
Just a thought..this isn't a political issue. It's literally the state crushing people.
Cow Mengde
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Fighting for a group that has suffered genocide and abuse for over 200 years is far left I guess.
I voted for Hilary, and most of my native friends have too. How the hell is this a political issue and not a human rights issue? Did you say the same thing about all the police over reach protests?
But you don't understand: they were standing in the way of MONEY.
MONEY.
MONEY!!
FUCKING MONEY!!!!
Nobody should EVER get between a corporation and their MONEY! To do so is un-American! If you disagree you are a fucking liberal asshole who should be executed for
Cow Mengde
Banned
Also, this is right there on Hillary's website.
The fact that during an election month, she can't be bothered to throw some verbal support their way says a lot.
The fact that during an election month, she can't be bothered to throw some verbal support their way says a lot.
Sirpopopop
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Far Left = Bernie or Busters, The Intercept, US Uncut. Jill Stein. I think we can safely call that Far Left. If we can't, let me know so I'll quickly exit this thread.
As for the "facts" - I've seen enough within this theead itself to question the "this is evil" narrative.
If anyone wants to have a conversation without that kind of rhetoric, it's possible. However, I think the major reason why this thread won't merit a lot of posts is that the rhetoric here is already incendiary.
As for the "facts" - I've seen enough within this theead itself to question the "this is evil" narrative.
If anyone wants to have a conversation without that kind of rhetoric, it's possible. However, I think the major reason why this thread won't merit a lot of posts is that the rhetoric here is already incendiary.
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