PoliGAF 2011: Of Weiners, Boehners, Santorum, and Teabags
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TacticalFox88
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Good journalist, but incredibly boring to listen too. :/Jeels said:Fareed Zakari is easily my favorite mainstream journalist.
RustyNails
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I suppose this is why everyone says NPR is stale and boring? smh. kids these days.TacticalFox88 said:
TacticalFox88
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NPR is fucking amazing. Fareed comes of as if he was bored about what he's talking about, although we know that's not the caseRustyNails said:
Seriously, anyone here still think they care about the deficit?aceface said:
I mean, they care about it more than they care about social security or pell grants, but they don't care about those programs in general.
I like his style, but in any case, he's more of an author than a talking head.TacticalFox88 said:
Check his written stuff.
Bulbo Urethral Baggins
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Obama looks and sounds defeated.
PhoenixDark
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Obama pretending like the American people's tweets had anything to do with this piece of shit
planar1280
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Bulbo Urethral Baggins said:
he won in the end. compromise. this will get him elected
PhoenixDark
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planar1280 said:
TacticalFox88
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The fuck? This is a failure in pretty much everyway possible.planar1280 said:
Escape Goat
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Now we can go back to living beyond our means and talking about weiner gates and stuff Palin says.
Teh Hamburglar said:
We can finally focus on what really matters: Annual The Hill Top 50 Beautiful People List!
http://thehill.com/capital-living/173451-50-most-beautiful-people-2011-washington-congress-capitol
Kitschkraft
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Pell grants?
I've latched onto them, even if they might not be a huge deal in the grand scheme. I don't know if I can take it if they were cut as well.
I've latched onto them, even if they might not be a huge deal in the grand scheme. I don't know if I can take it if they were cut as well.
SimpleDesign
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In what way is this a compromise?
TacticalFox88
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Campaign Obama...if you're in there...I'd like you to come back. Pwease! For me!?
planar1280
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eznark said:
1. Debt limit hiked by 2.4 Trillion
2. Super Congress will get to cut an 1.2 trillion from spending cuts, tax hikes etc
3. If 2 becomes an issue, automatic spending cuts will occur between social and defense programs on a 1:1 basis.
4. Domestic cuts include Medicare but expempt Social Security and Medicaid
5. If the committee fails to produce tax reform by November , Obama has the right to veto any extention of Bush tax cuts.
6. There is no trigger vote on balanced budget amendment which the Tea Party wanted.
7. Revenue increases are in the mix, it is allowed along with spending cuts for the Super Congress
it is not a perfect deal but it is a deal which removes all Tea Party demands and removes all Progressive Democrats demands. That is the Compromise. This is a centrist agreement. Progressive GAF may not like it, Hotair.com and donttreadonme.com may not like it. but this will work well with centrists
balladofwindfishes
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From what CBS news said, yes, the Tea Party is furious and think the cuts to social programs don't go deep enough and the military cuts are too much.Y2Kev said:
So basically the exact reaction you would expect.
He spends the first part of his speech talking about deficit reduction and cutting spending, then ends saying that he wants to turn to creating jobs and stimulating the economy ....... That .... does not compute.
The only way for the government to stimulate the economy and create jobs right now is to have the government engage in deficit spending. I'm sure the conversation will make nice theater though.
The only way that I hold out any hope is through the idea that President Obama's mystifying focus on cutting social programs (I refuse to refer to them as entitlements) is an attempt to stabilize the long term budget in order to open the way politically for short term stimulus spending.
Still, if cuts to Medicare include measures like raising the retirement age or cuts to providers that cause even more doctors to drop the program, that would be a bad thing ..... It would also harm the chances of Democrats, whose best chance of retaking the House and retaining the Senate lies in posing as defenders of that program.
I do hate the way he sort of threw his own party under the bus by equating them with the Republicans in terms of how far they have been willing to compromise.
The only way for the government to stimulate the economy and create jobs right now is to have the government engage in deficit spending. I'm sure the conversation will make nice theater though.
The only way that I hold out any hope is through the idea that President Obama's mystifying focus on cutting social programs (I refuse to refer to them as entitlements) is an attempt to stabilize the long term budget in order to open the way politically for short term stimulus spending.
Still, if cuts to Medicare include measures like raising the retirement age or cuts to providers that cause even more doctors to drop the program, that would be a bad thing ..... It would also harm the chances of Democrats, whose best chance of retaking the House and retaining the Senate lies in posing as defenders of that program.
I do hate the way he sort of threw his own party under the bus by equating them with the Republicans in terms of how far they have been willing to compromise.
planar1280
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eznark said:
you realise that there is an automatic trigger to make sure if a wrench is thrown, it will be triggered if a vote is not done.
TacticalFox88
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I think the Tea Party will NEVER be satisfied. They just want something to be angry about.balladofwindfishes said:
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