mckmas8808 said:
What are you talking about? I didn't say that. I'm okay with your moving towards a mileage tax (I have ZERO idea how this would work by the way) if the vehicles on the road created the need. If we were losing so much tax money for roads because that many people started driving electric cars and trucks (what a great country we'd be then), then change the system to what you are stating.
But I just want enough vehicles on the road to cause that problem first. My only problem with it is what if people stop by electrics and hybrid because of this?
Collecting a mileage tax is easy. Odometer readings. Just like for insurance.
Why would people stop buying hybrids and electrics....? Its not like gas is ever going to get cheaper.
speculawyer said:
Your understanding of the matter qualifies you to be a Fox news host.
I demand an apology before reading the rest of your post.
Evlar said:
Road use tax is impractical and disadvantageous. You would need to take account of not just weight and distance traveled but the relative cost-per-person of maintaining the particular road you happen to be driving on. This is excessively burdensome on people who happen to live on expensive-to-maintain-yet-lightly-used thoroughfares.
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No, its very easy.
You set up tiers, like with electricity.
Under 2,000lbs
2001-3,000
3,001-4000
etc etc
Each tier gets charged at a slightly different rate per mile. Obviously, higher as you go up.
End of year (or monthly, or every 6 months, doesnt matter) you get your odometer checked.
10,000 miles at the tier 2 price of 5 cents a mile = your bill.
(Made up numbers).
Super easy. The more you drive, the more you pay. The heavier your vehicle, the more you pay.
I dont understand the rest of your point. Yes, roads are for trade. Thats why we need to discourage private driving. Every car on the road = a delay for commerce. Congestion kills productivity.
mckmas8808 said:
How the hell is a $40,000 for the rich? 3 years later and that car can be bought for $22,000 and also by someone in the middle class.
If you're arguing that someone who can drop $40,000 on a car is not rich, then you sir, are a fox news host.
Yes, the car will eventually be resold. $22,000 isnt exactly cheap either, and that person doesnt get a tax credit. They also get a battery that isnt as good.
Heres my problem with the current tax incentive:
Demand for electric cars exceeds supply.
If we have 1,000 electric cars, and 5,000 people on the waiting list....why the fuck are we giving them $7,5000?
Lets assume for a second we drop the incentive, and the waiting list goes to 2,500. Guess what, the car is still sold out.
TacticalFox88 said:
Whatever happened to that mandate that Car Manufacturers had to BY LAW make cars with excellent gas mileage or face sanctions by the Feds? Or something akin to that?
CAFE standards, they exist and continue to go up ever so slightly. Dont confuse the CAFE mileage with EPA mileage and neither with what you get in the real world.
Also note its a fleet average, not a minimum. You can sell a 10mpg car as long as you have a 50mpg to offset it.
