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[VendettaRed07]

So the house bill sends us back to pre-ACA conditions in terms of the preexisting condition clause?

It's been thrown out by the senate so it really doesn't matter what it did

We'll have to see what the senate does now

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

I think I need to stay out of the OT threads for some time now.

 

[Slizeezyc]

I think I need to stay out of the OT threads for some time now.

What hath ruined your faith so?

 

[kirblar]

Exactly. You get a charismatic New Blood democrat to run that is too new to find dirt on, give them an experienced old, charming white guy as the VP on the ticket, and you now got yourself another Obama/Biden stew cooking.

Harris/Franken 2020

I'm currently Gillbrand/Franken because Gillibrand's political instincts scare the shit out of me.

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

What hath ruined your faith so?

A lot of nonsense from some people on this board. It feels like it goes in circles sometimes.

 

[B-Dubs]

I'm currently Gillbrand/Franken because Gillibrand's political instincts scare the shit out of me.

I'm down with this. Sleep on Gillibrand at your own risk, she somehow manages to stay ahead of the national mood by a half-step at all times. It's like she's from the damn future or something.

 

[Aaronology]

A lot of nonsense from some people on this board. It feels like it goes in circles sometimes.

This is how I feel, and it's why I've stopped any significant participation in OT political threads since January or so. Same arguments with the same people or same type of people. To be fair, it's not even specifically a GAF thing. I think I've just grown exhausted with political discourse everywhere at the moment.

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

This is how I feel, and it's why I've stopped any significant participation in OT political threads since January or so. Same arguments with the same people or same type of people. To be fair, it's not even specifically a GAF thing. I think I've just grown exhausted with political discourse everywhere at the moment.

It's slowly happening to me too. It's just a lot of things happening all at once that it is impossible to keep track of now. And people on here won't let past transgressions go with people throwing things out and trying to relive that primaries.

 

[Debirudog]

Me like Gillibrand/Franken.

 

[Snowman Prophet of Doom]

Gillibrand will be pilloried as Hillary 2.0, fair or not.

I sleep on her, and damn the risk!

 

[Holmes]

Pretty sure the entire city of Sacramento was thrilled to see Kamala go to D.C.

You're approaching Cesare vs. Hillary levels here but ok werk

 

[VendettaRed07]

I'm down with this. Sleep on Gillibrand at your own risk, she somehow manages to stay ahead of the national mood by a half-step at all times. It's like she's from the damn future or something.

If she is that in tunes with things then my guess is that she will not run at all. It won't be the right cycle for her.

Give me a Minnesota double of Franken/Klobuchar

 

[Bonen no Max'd]

If she is that in tunes with things then my guess is that she will not run at all. It won't be the right cycle for her.

Give me a Minnesota double of Franken/Klobuchar

this sounds dope except it means we can't count Minnesota towards the EC vote count.

 

[VendettaRed07]

this sounds dope except it means we can't count Minnesota towards the EC vote count.

What? Oh fuck that

 

[Slizeezyc]

It's slowly happening to me too. It's just a lot of things happening all at once that it is impossible to keep track of now. And people on here won't let past transgressions go with people throwing things out and trying to relive that primaries.

You shouldn't let Busters and Killarys get to you mate.

 

[Sirpopopop]

That doesn't.... what

Gotta remember! These people are very important to win over. We need to do more outreach to them. We may need to sacrifice some social issues, but it's totally worth it!

 

[Slacker]

So you can barely say that they passed anything.

Shouldn't this be the top of things to be talking about right now?

When you punt the ball into the endzone you gotta celebrate.

 

[shinra-bansho]

If we're not helping people, we should go the fuck home.

GILLARY 2020

 

[RastaMentality]

Pretty sure the entire city of Sacramento was thrilled to see Kamala go to D.C.

the sole black woman in the senate is already an icon. and rightfully so.

I'm down with this. Sleep on Gillibrand at your own risk, she somehow manages to stay ahead of the national mood by a half-step at all times. It's like she's from the damn future or something.

she's scary levels of politically savvy. Almost maybe approaching levels of Ann Richards savvy (probably the gold standard of female politicians) if this continues into the national stage.

 

[Fedelias]

the sole black woman in the senate is already an icon. and rightfully so.


she's scary levels of politically savvy. Almost maybe approaching levels of Ann Richards savvy if this continues into the national stage.

Hopefully we can bring her farther than just the Senate

2020s got me excited honestly. Fresh faces and fresh ideas will be great in the primaries again.

 

[RastaMentality]

Hopefully we can bring her farther than just the Senate

2020s got me excited honestly. Fresh faces and fresh ideas will be great in the primaries again.

Kamala really came at the perfect time. At the perfect intersection of black girls rock, black feminism, and BLM at their respective peaks, a black female face is most certainly gonna gain traction among the black youth.

Plus, literally who hates Jamaicans. except maybe bahamians.

 

[shinra-bansho]

"How do I, as a women, run for Congress?

Without your voice being heard in Washington, the decisions we make aren't as good. I would urge women to consider public service. And if you want to run, give me a call. I'll help.

Future POTUS.

It is not good enough for someone to say, ‘I’m a woman, vote for me.'

Old white man.

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

[Deleted member 231381]

Seconding the mention of Duckworth on the previous page.

I'm really hoping people are talking up Gillibrand as an ironic meme and not seriously.

 

[shinra-bansho]

Gillibrand is obviously running. There's a reason that she voted No on every cabinet nominee.
May the best woman win.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

I'm not disputing the fact she's running, I'm questioning why anyone would unironically think she would be a good candidate!

 

[excelsiorlef]

I'm not disputing the fact she's running, I'm questioning why anyone would unironically think she would be a good candidate!

Who do you want not named Bernie freaking Sanders

So Duckworth or bust?

 

[Deleted member 231381]

Who do you want not named Bernie freaking Sanders

So Duckworth or bust?

Just to clarify, are you asking me to order candidates by "most likely to win Presidential election", or "most in synch with Crab's ideal policy slate"? They're different responses.

 

[shinra-bansho]

She's a competent political chameleon, having established enough liberal credibility since her time as a Congresswoman and who unabashedly owns her past as being ignorant.

She'll have fundraising behind her.

She's physically attractive, which is seemingly important. Since that seems to be the main reason Liberal Icon and Unemployed Man are such a thing.

She stands as good a chance as any of the other wannabes.

 

[IAmAnAgnostic]

So what on earth is Zuckerberg going to attempt? He is clearly preparing to run for some political office. Does he think he'll become a Democrat president in 2020?

He's posing for pictures with farm workers, firefighters and he is visiting 50 states.

 

[sazzy]

The US War in Afghanistan has been going on for so long that it has 2 separate entries on Wikipedia:

War in Afghanistan (2001–2014)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_(2001–2014)

War in Afghanistan (2015–present)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_(2015–present)

 

[excelsiorlef]

Just to clarify, are you asking me to order candidates by "most likely to win Presidential election", or "most in synch with Crab's ideal policy slate"? They're different responses.

I guess both

 

[pigeon]

So what on earth is Zuckerberg going to attempt? He is clearly preparing to run for some political office. Does he think he'll become a Democrat president in 2020?

He's posing for pictures with farm workers, firefighters and he is visiting 50 states.

Zuckerberg is behaving like somebody who wants to run for President. If he wanted to be governor of California he wouldn't have to visit factory workers in Ohio.

Doesn't mean he will -- maybe he's pulling a Bloomberg -- but he's preparing for it for some reason.

 

[pigeon]

The US War in Afghanistan has been going on for so long that it has 2 separate entries on Wikipedia:

War in Afghanistan (2001–2014)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_(2001–2014)

War in Afghanistan (2015–present)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_(2015–present)

In fairness, the Hundred Years War just has one entry, so there might be a second criterion.

 

[Ecotic]

Zuckerberg might just be doing his continuing PR offensive to assuage ongoing conservative fears that facebook was biased against them. If you remember there was the controversy about a year ago over facebook selectively pushing stories in the news section.

But it's also convenient that doing this is both in facebook's interest and for his future ambitions.

 

[TestOfTide]

If Zuckerberg wants to be involved in politics, he should start by actually cracking down on fake news and encouraging other social media to do the same, not running for POTUS.

Like come on Mark. How can I trust you to deal with America's problems when you can't even fix Facebook's biggest problem?

 

[cartoon_soldier]

So what on earth is Zuckerberg going to attempt? He is clearly preparing to run for some political office. Does he think he'll become a Democrat president in 2020?

He's posing for pictures with farm workers, firefighters and he is visiting 50 states.

He will run for California Governor I think

 

[Aaron Strife]

He will run for California Governor I think

Visiting families in Ohio seems like a dumb way to go about doing that.

 

[nintendoman58]

A lot of nonsense from some people on this board. It feels like it goes in circles sometimes.

It's in this thread as well.

That Hooligan guy's logic and reasoning was really infuriating with the way he tried to shove it down our throats.

 

[LegendofJoe]

I'm from Cali, and currently there's a lot of talk about LA Mayor Eric Garcetti running for President. He has a lot of momentum going for himself. Also, for awhile now our CA Democratic Party golden child is Lieutenant Governor Gavin Newsom, but he might just be more interested in being the successor to the governorship.

Eric is my guy. His political resume isn't long, but holy shit at the rest of it. It screams I will be president one day. Even Bill Clinton said as much. And I'm pretty sure if he wins a Senate seat next year and runs in 2020 he'll be Obama's guy as well.

 

[Diablos]

Zuck with dat third party spoiler vibe

 

[cartoon_soldier]

Visiting families in Ohio seems like a dumb way to go about doing that.

2018 Governor.
2020 President.

 

[Wilsongt]

Will anyone even vote for a woman in 2020?

 

[TestOfTide]

I'm currently Gillbrand/Franken because Gillibrand's political instincts scare the shit out of me.

True. Even my Fox News watching mother loves Gillibrand because she knows that Gillibrand is from Rural NY.

 

[Wilsongt]

I guess we need to start researching rvery bad thing Gillabrand has said, done, or voted on since birth because as the arm chair political experts here may think she is running, but the RNC and extreme Bernie wing haven't started rumbling yet.

As soon as either of them get a wif that she might be interested in running in 2020 that smear campaign is going to be nasty...

 

[Aaron Strife]

I guess we need to start researching rvery bad thing Gillabrand has said, done, or voted on since birth because as the arm chair political experts here may think she is running, but the RNC and extreme Bernie wing haven't started rumbling yet.

As soon as either of them get a wif that she might be interested in running in 2020 that smear campaign is going to be nasty...

Everyone loves getting a whiff of their own Gillibrand.

 

[Y2Kev]

She's a competent political chameleon, having established enough liberal credibility since her time as a Congresswoman and who unabashedly owns her past as being ignorant.

She'll have fundraising behind her.

She's physically attractive, which is seemingly important. Since that seems to be the main reason Liberal Icon and Unemployed Man are such a thing.

She stands as good a chance as any of the other wannabes.

Her ny background means it is not possible she could build the credentials to appeal to the fringe. Forget it. Move on. She's a liberal who has fought for liberal causes both social and economic, but she also isn't going to be as liberal (or even as leftist) as many others and as the ny senator she represents Wall Street.

I'm fine with this and honestly would rather not go through the battle. Let's nominate what's her name. Nina turner.

 

[shinra-bansho]

Gillary is 46.

 

[Aaron Strife]

Her ny background means it is not possible she could build the credentials to appeal to the fringe. Forget it. Move on. She's a liberal who has fought for liberal causes both social and economic, but she also isn't going to be as liberal (or even as leftist) as many others and as the ny senator she represents Wall Street.

I'm fine with this and honestly would rather not go through the battle. Let's nominate what's her name. Nina turner.

She'll be fine as long as she tells Wall street to cut it out.

 

[RustyNails]

Wonder what name Trump will come up with for Gillibrand.

 

[Aaron Strife]

Cook made ratings changes in 20 GOP-held districts just based on the healthcare vote.

http://cookpolitical.com/story/10342

3 from Lean R to Tossup, 11 from Likely R to Lean R, 6 from Safe R to Likely R.

A start, but we've still got a long way to go.

If we don't win the House back in 2018 I will cry and upload it to youtube.