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PoliGAF 2017 |OT5| The Man In the High Chair

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So let me get this straight, Republican Senators cannot form a healthcare plan that 50 of them agree upon, yet conferencing with the more conservative House is supposed to create a magical bill that can?
 

Gotchaye

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How does Paul Ryan even provide an iron clad promise he won't pass this? He's literally filing the paperwork to have this passed by Monday...
Why would Paul Ryan even be out there talking about how maybe they'll pass this if he actually wanted the Senate to pass it?

Obviously it's risky, because if the Senate does pass it he probably has to have a vote on it, but talking about how the House might just pass the Senate's bill seems like a pretty clever way to force the Senate to kill it.
 

Hubbl3

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It's obviously the source of his confidence

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women's slacks
 

Barzul

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I got the sense that Scaramucci's campaign against leakers flows from his intense loyalty to Trump. Unlike other Trump advisers, I've never heard him say a bad word about the President. ”What I want to do is I want to fucking kill all the leakers and I want to get the President's agenda on track so we can succeed for the American people," he told me.

Honestly this is the craziest thing Scaramucci said. It's not getting enough attention.
 

Kusagari

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So let me get this straight, Republican Senators cannot form a healthcare plan that 50 of them agree upon, yet conferencing with the more conservative House is supposed to create a magical bill that can?

You just don't get it man.

Once Collins and Murkowski are in the same room as people that have threatened to shoot them, all will be solved.
 
How does Paul Ryan even provide an iron clad promise he won't pass this? He's literally filing the paperwork to have this passed by Monday...
It doesn't exist as far as I'm aware. Nothing to stop him from lying and the Senate has no ability to punish him if he does. It's insane that they seem to think that it apparently would be easier to somehow punish Ryan or whatever than it is to apply pressure to their OWN leader and get McConnell to make the process more open and let them in and stuff. They can at least potentially punish Turtle. They can't do anything to Ryan. But none of them have the spines to stand up to the Turtle and so they'd rather point fingers at Ryan instead if this stupidity blows up in their faces. Insane. Absolutely insane.

And lol McCain. So much for "a return to natural order.' Ain't nothin even close to natural order about this.
 
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Kelsey Snell‏Verified account @kelsey_snell 6m6 minutes ago

3 R sens. (enough to kill bill) cant vote for bill w/out assurances frm the house. house says we can't give assurances until we see the bill
 

pigeon

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It's actually extremely easy to force the House to go to conference.

Just put in a year of funding for Planned Parenthood.
 
McConnell:

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And the weirdest bit about it is if that press conference is any indication apparently the Senate R's would rather blame Ryan for Mitch's failures than Mitch himself and demanding that Turtle do the things they claim to want Ryan to, or else they'll come for his leadership position if he doesn't open up the process and give them the additional freedom they claim to want. This is truly the stupidest Congress.
 
Couldn't they just pass a bill that repeals the medical device tax and use that as a vehicle to go to conference? Or literally anything else that wouldn't destroy the economy if the House decided to just rubber stamp it?
 

Cybit

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It's actually extremely easy to force the House to go to conference.

Just put in a year of funding for Planned Parenthood.

Per the Senate Parliamentarian, they are not allowed to strip out PP funding.

BTW, this will pass, they will go to conference, nothing will get done, House will just pass the bill the Senate approves, and then Trump will fire Sessions and Preibus as the Senate goes on break the next day.
 

Zeeman

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And the weirdest bit about it is if that press conference is any indication apparently the Senate R's would rather blame Ryan for Mitch's failures than Mitch himself and demanding that Turtle do the things they claim to want Ryan to, or else they'll come for his leadership position if he doesn't open up the process and give them the additional freedom they claim to want. This is truly the stupidest Congress.

Nobody wants to be Speaker, nobody wants to be Majority Leader
 

Owzers

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It's really gross what the senate is doing. It didn't look as bad with the mtp, but here it is inexcusable to be this spineless.
 

Drkirby

Corporate Apologist
Is the end goal that the Republican's want is to say in both the House and the Senate that they "Passed" an Obamacare repeal, without actually having to repeal it?
 

royalan

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When even liberals are entertained by Scaramucci's shit, it's really not hard to see how we got here.

Are we still at the point where we think these fuckers are funny?
 

kirblar

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McMaster likely stopped playing ball after he got hung up as a patsy months back.
When even liberals are entertained by Scaramucci's shit, it's really not hard to see how we got here.

Are we still at the point where we think these fuckers are funny?
Scaramucci is blatantly incompetent. We celebrate it because it means they have an even smaller chance of passing anything.
 

Blader

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Wonder what's putting him at odds with McMaster.

But yeah. Like has been said, he's become increasingly unhinged since he learned Mueller could look into his finances.
He hasn't liked McMaster from the beginning. Trump thinks McMaster is condescending and talks down to him (which of course he does, McMaster is known for being a fiercely intelligent general and Trump is plainly stupid), and McMaster also hews to the traditional national security establishment mode of thinking which is almost always at odds with Trump.
 
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