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[Verano]

Me too...WHETHER YA LIKE IT OR NOT!!!!!!

:lol :lol :lol

Someone needs to GIF that shit from the governor San Francisco.
Anyone?

 

[mAcOdIn]

Democrats are different by definition of the positions they hold and support.

Liberalism values fairness, equality, empathy.

What people do tend to conflate is the liberal hate for certain positions and values... and the people that hold them.

We have plenty of religious among our ranks (yes even on poligaf). Hell, our champion is a religious man through and through.

You may find it laughable to that either party can claim the high road. History will find it laughable, your attempts at bringing parity, to two wholly unequal (in merit terms) parties.

Lol, wow. Equality does not even remotely fit in liberalism. If you truly believed that everyone was equal you wouldn't look to hold down one segment of the population to prop up another. That's flat out calling the group you're propping up inferior.

It could maybe, maybe, qualify as fairness, if fairness was charging two men different prices for the same meal, but whatever.

And empathy? Empathy for whom? More like pity. Pity is what allows someone to make the claim that it is better a baby be aborted than grow up in a life still better than than any human outside a fucking prince or czar would have lived less than ah hundred years ago. Oh wow is the lower class that still lives better than like 80% of the world, better make sure no kid has to go through that. It's like no-one can believe we make it out alive, like every town is Escape From New York level if you go down a neighborhood where the average income is less than 20k.

It's that self righteous attitude that allows one to claim to support the troops while believing that we're all welfare recruits who joined because we're too dumb or poor to do anything else. Better save them all.

No, the Democrats are NOT better than the Republicans. Both are disgusting. One group looks at the lower class as one to be exploited, the other looks at the lower class as a pathetic group of people that need to be saved from themselves for the sake of society.

The one thing I will give your side, is that regardless of what pathetic reasons they tell themselves they're doing something their approach does have the capability to provide the highest standard of living to the most Americans.

I think we're at a crossroads. I personally find pride and honor more important than social status and standard of living, so I'm extremely happy making around 20k a year, having just moved up from 12k and still having no health insurance, not owning a home, having a shitty used car with a broken window. For most others it seems they'd trade all that for a more comfortable lifestyle. To each their own I guess.

 

[Keylime]

I'm just about to start chapter 4 of this monster of a documentary, but damn is this well done and insightful.

I'd strongly recommend checking out this thing to all PoliGAFers who have a lot of time to spend getting a good history lesson on both the candidates.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/choice2008/view/1.html

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

I normally hate Olberman but that was good.

 

[Christopher]

Not to really get into this thread or what have you...but by this sole thread what can we gather most of the posters in this thread stand? Republican or Democrat??

 

[ronito]

Not to really get into this thread or what have you...but by this sole thread what can we gather most of the posters in this thread stand? Republican or Democrat??

it would just be easier to have the republican stand up.

 

[Iksenpets]

Not to really get into this thread or what have you...but by this sole thread what can we gather most of the posters in this thread stand? Republican or Democrat??

Lol, super Democratic in here.

 

[Tamanon]

Not to really get into this thread or what have you...but by this sole thread what can we gather most of the posters in this thread stand? Republican or Democrat??

To give you a clue, there's more libertarians than Republicans.

 

[M3wThr33]

Just donated $10 to Obama through the Facebook update David sent out. It was matched by Lynn Lupetti.

 

[sprsk]

And empathy? Empathy for whom? More like pity. Pity is what allows someone to make the claim that it is better a baby be aborted than grow up in a life still better than than any human outside a fucking prince or czar would have lived less than ah hundred years ago.

You either don't know what kind of places princes and czars lived in 100 years ago, or you've never been or seen the projects. Not to mention the whole idea that they should be happy we aren't living in 1908 has no base in any sort of rational thought. These people live in the now.



Who is someone?

I'm a democrat, I don't pity the poor. Stop projecting.

I personally find pride and honor more important than social status and standard of living, so I'm extremely happy making around 20k a year, having just moved up from 12k and still having no health insurance, not owning a home, having a shitty used car with a broken window.

And here's the whole problem. You only seem to give a shit about yourself. The poor people you say we pity and the democrats you claim prefer to abort babies than have them grow up poor aren't all single dudes with 20k a year.

You strike me as someone with an extremely narrow view of the world.

 

[thekad]

Narrow view of the world? That's quite the understatement.

 

[Dartastic]

Unrelated, but I just watched yesterday's Colbert Report. My birthday is tomorrow, and he wished me a happy birthday! I feel so special!

 

[Hitokage]

What the FUCK?

That's off the wall and moronic even for Rush.

Um, I take it you don't hear him often. Not that I try to, of course. I already had my fill growing up with him as my Voice of Fate.

 

[Tamanon]

Um, I take it you don't hear him often.

He must've gotten much worse during the final months because usually he just talks in broader terms about the evils of "liberals" and "The Messiah". That's a Hannity-esque rant combining all the Obama keywords.:lol

 

[GhaleonEB]

So the court has ordered a new system to be in place by Friday, but the Ohio secretary of state says that's impossible. If I'm parsing the AP article right, that means all 660,000 new voter registrations in Ohio could be invalidated.

 

[Hitokage]

He must've gotten much worse during the final months because usually he just talks in broader terms about the evils of "liberals" and "The Messiah". That's a Hannity-esque rant combining all the Obama keywords.:lol

He transports fringe right-wing points as he gets them. After all, it was him who thrust the "Clinton is a murderer" claims into the open.

 

[Tamanon]

So the court has ordered a new system to be in place by Friday, but the Ohio secretary of state says that's impossible. If I'm parsing the AP article right, that means all 660,000 new voter registrations in Ohio could be invalidated.

Nah, the secretary of state will put up a sham system if need be.

 

[numble]

I'm filling out my absentee ballot and there is an envelope that I'm supposed to mail it back in.

On the envelope it says:

To protect your vote:

IT IS AGAINST THE LAW FOR ANYONE EXCEPT YOU THE VOTER TO MAIL OR TRANSPORT THIS BALLOT UNLESS THE ENVELOPE IS SEALED AND THE FOLLOWING IS COMPLETED.

Ballot mailed or transported by
____________________________________
(Signature of bearer)

____________________________________
(Print name of bearer)

____________________________________
(Address of bearer)​

Am I supposed to fill this out with my info or is the mail carrier supposed to fill this out?

Sorry, first time voting absentee.

You need to sign it.

Edit: Actually looks like you don't.

 

[adamsappel]

I'm kind of gleefully anticipating throwing this phrase back in some people's faces: "Get over it."

 

[Hitokage]

I'm kind of gleefully anticipating throwing this phrase back in some people's faces: "Get over it."

"Remember how you mocked Democrats for complaining over about a thousand or so votes in Florida, and now you're trying to claim that over a hundred thousand votes were stolen?"

 

[Learn2read]

Anyone watching this Frontline special on Obama? It's fantastic, maybe the best background for BO I've seen yet.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Nah, the secretary of state will put up a sham system if need be.

And the GOP will sue right back up to the supreme court to have them tossed.

 

[Trurl]

I'm kind of gleefully anticipating throwing this phrase back in some people's faces: "Get over it."

Republicans still aren't over Clinton.

 

[Hitokage]

Republicans don't "get over" Democratic presidents when they are out of office, let alone when they are in office. :lol

At least they can stop talking about FDR and Clinton, and start talking about Obama for the next century.

 

[GaimeGuy]

There is no way they could legally be able to throw out old voter registrations because they were made before the new "system" was put in place. You can't change the rules and declare everything that adhered to the old rules null and void.

 

[AniHawk]

There is no way they could legally be able to throw out old voter registrations because they were made before the new "system" was put in place. You can't change the rules and declare everything that adhered to the old rules null and void.

Unless you're about to lose in a landslide. Then it's okay.

 

[mAcOdIn]

Yep, huge understatement. Obviously I'm another ignorant right leaner. Before I got my current job I was making 12k a year, before that 800 a month. I've never been rich, and I know what it's like to not have enough money to even be able to drive a car or decide on bills or food. Not once was I ever on food stamps or any shit like that.

Again, pride is more important to me than status. Of course that's a narrow view, because it's my view. If you'd like to ignore the line where I said to each their own fine, paint me as a guy who doesn't understand that people have different priorities. Whatever you have to do to look superior. I could really care less.

Why are you voting anyways? Are you voting for what you want or your neighbor? 'Cause if you're voting for what you want who the hell are you to talk to me like I'm an idiot?

And I do think that modern comforts do raise the standard of living quite a bit compared to the wealthy of a hundred years ago. Fuck, I'd take a heater, any kind, over a thousand servants. My point was never that they did not have it bad. My point is that things are not so bad that everyone should be looked down upon as living in some kind of sub human living conditions.

Anyways, you're still missing the grand fucking point that Democrats by definition can not be a better party than the Republicans or vice-versa because the whole political system is set up where the winner wants and gets to impose their world views on the loser. If the Democrats or Republicans actually wanted to be a party for all the people they'd have some kind of fucking Opt-in service. How anyone can say that the Republicans want to impose their view on them while claiming the opposite is just beyond me.

That's why I don't understand this fucking righteous fist pumping going on. It's delusional. You've convinced yourselves that those who want that lifestyle are of course right and those that don't want it are ignorant and need it anyway, and since it's in my best physical interest(not necessarily mental) feel giddy about forcing it down any ones throat who disagrees.

At least know what you're doing. At least stand up and say it. But to claim some kind of party superiority to me just reeks of hypocrisy and flat out delusional thinking.

 

[Stoney Mason]

Rush Limbaugh loses it:



http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/rush-limbaugh-says-blacks-are-angry-and


I don't know if this is normal for him, but holy fuck

One more thing btw

Replace every mention in there of black and black liberation with Jewish and Zionist and Limbaugh would be ran off the air as the biggest anti-semite on the planet. Because it the reverse however it's cool.

Just saying.

 

[XxenobladerxX]

Yep, huge understatement. Obviously I'm another ignorant right leaner. Before I got my current job I was making 12k a year, before that 800 a month. I've never been rich, and I know what it's like to not have enough money to even be able to drive a car or decide on bills or food. Not once was I ever on food stamps or any shit like that.

Again, pride is more important to me than status. Of course that's a narrow view, because it's my view. If you'd like to ignore the line where I said to each their own fine, paint me as a guy who doesn't understand that people have different priorities. Whatever you have to do to look superior. I could really care less.

Why are you voting anyways? Are you voting for what you want or your neighbor? 'Cause if you're voting for what you want who the hell are you to talk to me like I'm an idiot?

And I do think that modern comforts do raise the standard of living quite a bit compared to the wealthy of a hundred years ago. Fuck, I'd take a heater, any kind, over a thousand servants. My point was never that they did not have it bad. My point is that things are not so bad that everyone should be looked down upon as living in some kind of sub human living conditions.

Anyways, you're still missing the grand fucking point that Democrats by definition can not be a better party than the Republicans or vice-versa because the whole political system is set up where the winner wants and gets to impose their world views on the loser. If the Democrats or Republicans actually wanted to be a party for all the people they'd have some kind of fucking Opt-in service. How anyone can say that the Republicans want to impose their view on them while claiming the opposite is just beyond me.

That's why I don't understand this fucking righteous fist pumping going on. It's delusional. You've convinced yourselves that those who want that lifestyle are of course right and those that don't want it are ignorant and need it anyway, and since it's in my best physical interest(not necessarily mental) feel giddy about forcing it down any ones throat who disagrees.

At least know what you're doing. At least stand up and say it. But to claim some kind of party superiority to me just reeks of hypocrisy and flat out delusional thinking.

ok

 

[Tamanon]

Yep, huge understatement. Obviously I'm another ignorant right leaner. Before I got my current job I was making 12k a year, before that 800 a month. I've never been rich, and I know what it's like to not have enough money to even be able to drive a car or decide on bills or food. Not once was I ever on food stamps or any shit like that.

Again, pride is more important to me than status. Of course that's a narrow view, because it's my view. If you'd like to ignore the line where I said to each their own fine, paint me as a guy who doesn't understand that people have different priorities. Whatever you have to do to look superior. I could really care less.

Why are you voting anyways? Are you voting for what you want or your neighbor? 'Cause if you're voting for what you want who the hell are you to talk to me like I'm an idiot?

And I do think that modern comforts do raise the standard of living quite a bit compared to the wealthy of a hundred years ago. Fuck, I'd take a heater, any kind, over a thousand servants. My point was never that they did not have it bad. My point is that things are not so bad that everyone should be looked down upon as living in some kind of sub human living conditions.

Anyways, you're still missing the grand fucking point that Democrats by definition can not be a better party than the Republicans or vice-versa because the whole political system is set up where the winner wants and gets to impose their world views on the loser. If the Democrats or Republicans actually wanted to be a party for all the people they'd have some kind of fucking Opt-in service. How anyone can say that the Republicans want to impose their view on them while claiming the opposite is just beyond me.

That's why I don't understand this fucking righteous fist pumping going on. It's delusional. You've convinced yourselves that those who want that lifestyle are of course right and those that don't want it are ignorant and need it anyway, and since it's in my best physical interest(not necessarily mental) feel giddy about forcing it down any ones throat who disagrees.

At least know what you're doing. At least stand up and say it. But to claim some kind of party superiority to me just reeks of hypocrisy and flat out delusional thinking.

What the fuck are you even talking about here? This is just random.

 

[GhaleonEB]

There is no way they could legally be able to throw out old voter registrations because they were made before the new "system" was put in place. You can't change the rules and declare everything that adhered to the old rules null and void.

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

 

[worldrunover]

I'm sorry but who would register their nickname instead of their legal name?

It's like Richard writing down Dick.

*cough*

 

[Stinkles]

Yep, huge understatement. Obviously I'm another ignorant right leaner. Before I got my current job I was making 12k a year, before that 800 a month. I've never been rich, and I know what it's like to not have enough money to even be able to drive a car or decide on bills or food. Not once was I ever on food stamps or any shit like that.

Again, pride is more important to me than status. Of course that's a narrow view, because it's my view. If you'd like to ignore the line where I said to each their own fine, paint me as a guy who doesn't understand that people have different priorities. Whatever you have to do to look superior. I could really care less.

Why are you voting anyways? Are you voting for what you want or your neighbor? 'Cause if you're voting for what you want who the hell are you to talk to me like I'm an idiot?

And I do think that modern comforts do raise the standard of living quite a bit compared to the wealthy of a hundred years ago. Fuck, I'd take a heater, any kind, over a thousand servants. My point was never that they did not have it bad. My point is that things are not so bad that everyone should be looked down upon as living in some kind of sub human living conditions.

Anyways, you're still missing the grand fucking point that Democrats by definition can not be a better party than the Republicans or vice-versa because the whole political system is set up where the winner wants and gets to impose their world views on the loser. If the Democrats or Republicans actually wanted to be a party for all the people they'd have some kind of fucking Opt-in service. How anyone can say that the Republicans want to impose their view on them while claiming the opposite is just beyond me.

That's why I don't understand this fucking righteous fist pumping going on. It's delusional. You've convinced yourselves that those who want that lifestyle are of course right and those that don't want it are ignorant and need it anyway, and since it's in my best physical interest(not necessarily mental) feel giddy about forcing it down any ones throat who disagrees.

At least know what you're doing. At least stand up and say it. But to claim some kind of party superiority to me just reeks of hypocrisy and flat out delusional thinking.

1. Your prior post history paints you as a slightly libertopian republican
2. Meltdowns should be saved for Nov 3rd.
3. wat

 

[Cloudy]

Update on latest betting odds:

Barack Obama -700
John McCain +450

Obama wins between 330-349 CLOSED

:lol

 

[mAcOdIn]

That wasn't a meltdown.

Anyways, I need to order some fancy cat food, anyone know a good brand? My cat seems to get sick off the stuff he eats now.

 

[viciouskillersquirrel]

Republicans still aren't over Clinton.

At least they can stop talking about FDR and Clinton, and start talking about Obama for the next century.

Yeah, what exactly was their beef with Clinton? He wasn't an outstanding president, but he was competent. I don't get why they went after him with such vitriol.

 

[Ela Hadrun]

1. Your prior post history paints you as a slightly libertopian republican
2. Meltdowns should be saved for Nov 3rd.
3. wat

this

also, mAcOdIn, please use condoms. I don't want you to give some poor child rickets because you're malnourishing them because you value pride over taking public assistance.

 

[Stinkles]

That wasn't a meltdown.

Anyways, I need to order some fancy cat food, anyone know a good brand? My cat seems to get sick off the stuff he eats now.

If McCain wins, you should save the catfood for yourself.

Spoiler

Fancy Feast wet or Iams dry

 

[Tamanon]

Yeah, what exactly was their beef with Clinton? He wasn't an outstanding president, but he was competent. I don't get why they went after him with such vitriol.

Probably because he wasn't a failure of a D.

 

[mAcOdIn]

Yeah, what exactly was their beef with Clinton? He wasn't an outstanding president, but he was competent. I don't get why they went after him with such vitriol.

I thought it was simply because he was a Democrat? Amazing that more effort was spent to go after Clinton for a blow job than to go after Bush for Iraq and all the nice things related to it.

If McCain wins, you should save the catfood for yourself.

Spoiler

Fancy Feast wet or Iams dry

nah, that's why I want to fatten up the cat.

Spoiler

Thanks

 

[Stoney Mason]

Yeah, what exactly was their beef with Clinton? He wasn't an outstanding president, but he was competent. I don't get why they went after him with such vitriol.

He was a validation of that no good hippy generation that was anti-war. Did Drugs. And had sex.

Essentially a complete repudiation of their world view and he was doing a better job than them.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Update on latest betting odds:

Every time you guys post that, several of us not familiar with betting nomenclature ask what those numbers mean. No one has ever answered; I've asked at least three times. So why bother posting them unless you are going to explain what they mean?

 

[Tamanon]

Every time you guys post that, several of us not familiar with betting nomenclature ask what those numbers mean. No one has ever answered; I've asked at least three times. So why bother posting them unless you are going to explain what them mean?

Assuming it's a $100 betting scale, it means you have to pay 700 bucks to win 100 bucks from Obama winning and you pay 100 bucks to win 450 bucks if McCain wins.

 

[Gruco]

Yeah, what exactly was their beef with Clinton? He wasn't an outstanding president, but he was competent. I don't get why they went after him with such vitriol.

1) Raising taxes makes Grover Norquist go crazy
2) GUNS
3) Republicans were absolutely terrified of his health care plan. I mean petrified. They truly felt it would have made the voting public swing democratic for a century.

After that it was pretty much a case of Newt being pissed that he couldn't run the country from Cobb County. Something like that.

 

[Hitokage]

I'm just about to start chapter 4 of this monster of a documentary, but damn is this well done and insightful.

I'd strongly recommend checking out this thing to all PoliGAFers who have a lot of time to spend getting a good history lesson on both the candidates.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/choice2008/view/1.html

"Barack Obama has inner toughness--the velvet glove around the steel fist."

Nice.

 

[mAcOdIn]

this

also, mAcOdIn, please use condoms. I don't want you to give some poor child rickets because you're malnourishing them because you value pride over taking public assistance.

Lol. It's ok right? I mean, I could just sleep with as many women as I'd like protected or not and just abort it right? So I don't understand your argument, unless you're claiming I would sleep with a child, which is uncool.

 

[Cloudy]

Every time you guys post that, several of us not familiar with betting nomenclature ask what those numbers mean. No one has ever answered; I've asked at least three times. So why bother posting them unless you are going to explain what they mean?

If you put $100 on McSame, you win $450 if he wins. To win $100 with Obama, you need to put $700 down. Obama has an 87.50% chance of victory according to the oddsmakers..

 

[thekad]

I pity macodin.

 

[viciouskillersquirrel]

He was a validation of that no good hippy generation that was anti-war. Did Drugs. And had sex.

Essentially a complete repudiation of their world view and he was doing a better job than them.

So they hated him because... he did a good job?

 

[Trakdown]

So they hated him because... he did a good job?

Well, keep in mind the Repubs had just gotten raked over the coals with "No new taxes" and the first Gulf War. And if you haven't guessed, the modern GOP has a huge inferiority complex.