PoliGAF Interim Thread of 2008 Early Voting (THE FINAL COUNTDOWN: T MINUS 2 DAYS)

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Saint Gregory said:
Why has MSNBC been using the Mason-Dixon poll in their broadcasts lately? Do they have an agreement with them or are they just using them because they have the battlegrounds so close and that makes for better TV?
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Mason-Dixon's polls have been erratic. I'd call them SHOCK POLLS(!)!
 
Saint Gregory said:
Why has MSNBC been using the Mason-Dixon poll in their broadcasts lately? Do they have an agreement with them or are they just using them because they have the battlegrounds so close and that makes for better TV?
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Mason-dixon conducts the polls for NBC
 
So what do we think the chances are that McCainizona will see the light and go Obama? :(
 
Mandark said:
Gruco: I actually started reading The Next Right a couple days ago, since I've been giddy at the prospect of navel-gazing and recriminations from the right after this election.

They're saner than the Malkin wing of the party, but they're still pretty delusional.
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Well, calling them the most sane conservative web site remains, of course, a relative term.

But they seem like a crowd capable of discourse with opposing view points, which is fairly impressive if you consider the base line.

I think their biggest problem is that most of the guys see organization problems more than any rejection of actual positions, which is stupid. Democrats have had a great deal of success through willingness to incorporate some of the smarter ideas on the right (cap & trade, EITC) and abandon the unpopular and mostly symbolic fights (gun control). Unless the right is willing to make similar adjustments, they'll struggle. But next right is the closest I've seen to anything like that happening.
 
MaddenNFL64 said:
That's where my thoughts were. Nate Silver has said any "Effect" is minimal today, now that crime, affirmative action, and welfare aren't the wedge issues they were back then, and I agree.
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I think this is actually less significant than the rise of the "culture voter." There is much more "cover" for someone who wants to vote against a black candidate due to their race-- either through codewords (like "unexperienced") or through legitimate disagreement on social issues like abortion. No one I know who's voting against Obama (I'm not sure how many people I know who are actually voting "for" McCain :lol ) is particularly shy about it.
 
Gruco said:
By the way, does anything think this election would be different if instead of crazy angry grandma McCain, we got the candidate who:
  • Was responsible for campaign finance reform
  • Stood up to Bush on tax cuts
  • Pushed for comprehensive immigrant reform
  • Brought the first carbon cap bill to the senate floor
  • Is BFF with independent democrat Joe Lieberman
Of course the base would abandon him entirely, but the dynamics of the election would be awesome.
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too bad the party has proven that they wouldn't nominate that
 
Zakaria interviewing Bloomberg. Big ideas, and they sound similar to Obama's. He wants a "New Deal" public works/infrastructure plan, a large government pushed energy plan for nuclear power plants, and adding solar, wind etc. to our grid.

'Course he has 70% approval rating in NY, so he won't endorse anyone in fear of alienating his wide appeal (NY is a lock for Obama anyway, so eh).
 
syllogism said:
Mason-dixon conducts the polls for NBC
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OK that's what I was hoping. I was afraid MSNBC was just going the fear/freakout route.

Rur0ni said:
It would appear VA whites are remembering Obama is a black guy, or that socialism/redistribution of wealth stuff is sticking.
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Or the undecideds are breaking more to McCain which isn't surprising. As long as Obama stays at 50 or above I don't think it matters.
 
BenjaminBirdie said:
That was seriously the worst Olbermann I've ever seen. That was the Armisen::Obama edition of Olbermann.
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I think they were trying to capture his arrogant nature and florid language.

He's like a liberal Frasier.
 
Ya, that was an EXTREME Olbermann impression. It's like they made him sort of british, stuttered his words, and just based his persona off his special comments on George Bush he has once every blue moon.

It was still funny (the Worst Persons overacting was so crazy :lol), but that impression was insanely off.
 
Gruco said:
I mean, they did. He just stayed home. Just would have taken a couple more flip flops.
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I think that McCain stepping out of safe ground with the mostly crazy far right you would either see the most dramatic loss ever or ridiculously low turnout.
 
Gruco said:
For anyone interested in learning about grounded conservative reactions to the current situations, thenextright.com is an excellent site. It's probably the most honest, genuine, non-crazy conservative web site I've ever seen. True believers, but also well aware of their actual problems. I definitely plan on following this for a while. Here's a good post on the "victim of own success" issue. I wonder how much of a response I'd get if I started highlighting and asking them how they plan on addressing some of the other problems.

http://www.thenextright.com/sean-oxendine/the-price-of-victory
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Still delusional IMO - it'll be better if they get more people to offer counter-points.

But it's fine, it's still young and in its infancy, so the only thing they have to do is avoid going to Redstate delusion or Freeper crazy.
 
Anyone feel like trolling Freepers by telling them they should just stay home on Nov 2nd, so we can elect a TRUE CONSERVATIVE in 4 years (Palin 2012!)?
 
Saint Gregory said:
:lol :lol :lol

That was great. It just shows how important the voice is to an impression. Affleck and Armisen look the part and have the mannerisms down but neither pull of the voice convincingly.
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They're not as bad as Amy Poehler who does an atrocious Hillary.

SNL could have made that skit funnier by having Darrell Hammond do Chris Mathews and someone else do Joe Scarborough and have those three go at each other.
 
Ceekus said:
Positive polling update for McCain just now on FiveThirtyEight.com
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Firstly, I have the model programmed to be EXTREMELY aggressive this time of year. There have been relatively few 'fresh' polls conducted within the past 24-48 hours -- most of these state polls were in the field late last week. As we get more data in today and tonight, the model could very well decide that the race is not tightening at all. Moreover, polling conducted on a weekend -- particularly on a quasi- holiday weekend -- is generally unreliable.
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Tighter, I guess. It always seemed pretty obvious that the long-shots would eventually go back to McCain, like NC, indiana and Missouri. But Obama still has everything he needs.
 
Sort of OT, but Keith O. co-anchors Sunday Night Football.

You think there's a chance, Costas & the gang bring the SNL skit up?

Would be funny to see him react :lol
 
TDG said:
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Tighter, I guess. It always seemed pretty obvious that the long-shots would eventually go back to McCain, like NC, indiana and Missouri. But Obama still has everything he needs.
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Nope. Sorry. NC will go blue this year.
 
reilo said:
They're not as bad as Amy Poehler who does an atrocious Hillary.

SNL could have made that skit funnier by having Darrell Hammond do Chris Mathews and someone else do Joe Scarborough and have those three go at each other.
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I had a mini debate about that earlier in the thread with someone but I really feel that SNL is going to have to do a cast reset after this season regardless who wins. They've got a big ratings boost from the election but the fact that they have to keep bringing old cast members back to do the skits shows how mediocre the current crew is.
 
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