PoliGAF Interim Thread of 2008 Early Voting (THE FINAL COUNTDOWN: T MINUS 2 DAYS)

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laserbeam said:
Your certainly correct. Clinton benefitted alot from the Dot Com Bubble for instance. It popped after he was out of Office so Bush got stuck with the negatives of the burst bubble.
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CALLED IT!

reilo said:
No,nonnonono. Remember the rule of right-wing political talking points: Clinton didn't drive the economy into the ground, he lucked into it. Therefor, the only credit he ought to get during the 90s is for not fucking things up! You see, it was a miracle!
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thekad said:
True.

And artredis has to be posting old news on purpose now. It's gotten ridiculous.
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Don't bother complaining about it, it seems like he doesn't even read the thread, so he won't notice.
 
Hey Laserbeam is back with his extreme cynicism!

If you honestly thought that it doesn't matter which candidate gets elected then I highly doubt you would post in this thread very much or even pay attention to politics. After the last 8 years of Bush the only people who can honestly believe that it doesn't matter who gets elected are the conspiracy theorists who think the world is really controlled by some secret government (ala The Patriots from Metal Gear Solid) led by Emperor Rockefeller.
 
Stoney Mason said:
Isn't this from yesterday? Even if it isn't we all have access to Pollster.
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yes it is from last night, and it was posted last night

and yes, we all have pollster access/etc. but he....he just loves posting slightly older polls (or new ones on occasion) with lots of !!!! and 0 discussion
 
Illuminati said:
Sadly you do not know how to use commas properly.
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So much self-ownage:
When an introductory adverbial element seems to modify the entire sentence and not just the verb or some single element in the rest of the sentence, put a comma after it.

* Fortunately, no one in the bridal party was in that car.
* Sadly, the old church was completely destroyed.
* On the other hand, someone obviously was badly injured.
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laserbeam said:
Your certainly correct. Clinton benefitted alot from the Dot Com Bubble for instance. It popped after he was out of Office so Bush got stuck with the negatives of the burst bubble.

Presidents have some impact on the Economy but its not nearly as much as some people like to think. The Dot Com bubble created a ton of temporary jobs and when it burst all those jobs went away leaving one president with a positive job growth and another a negative.

Our country for a long time has been living on credit. Good jobs consistently are exported out of the country so these companies can keep specific profit margins American Citizens be damned. So American Citizens are left to take lower paying jobs and suddenly are finding living on Credit has fucked them.

Well our country living on Credit is coming back to fuck us on a National level now.



San Francisco Chronicle interview regarding the Energy Industry.

Barack Obama Speech in July regarding his new Defense Force he wants to setup thats just as powerful and as well funded as the military.

Very police state style thinking with that one
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Stop capitalizing random words.

Gruco said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DqR7zis99I

The green screen speech was apparently so boring that this slipped under the radar.
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:lol :lol Wtf, McCain.

Loudninja said:
Some of you are acting funny tonight >_>
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I'm always funny.
 
mamacint said:
Margin of error: The width of your asscrack.
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That's where I pulled the numbers from, so yes.
 
reilo said:
No,nonnonono. Remember the rule of right-wing political talking points: Clinton didn't drive the economy into the ground, he lucked into it. Therefor, the only credit he ought to get during the 90s is for not fucking things up! You see, it was a miracle!.
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Yeah . . .it is an amazing 'luck' streak.
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TDG said:
Don't bother complaining about it, it seems like he doesn't even read the thread, so he won't notice.
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he's essentially an RCP RSS feed working on a 1200 baud modem, from what I can gather.

I don't think that the Corner is going to be that great on election night. I think they know that liberals looking to feed on their bitter tears will be hitting them up. The freepers and the rapture ready/pro life crowd are far better material since they are totally unhinged already.

Though k-lo is always good for a laugh. Check her out once the Sununu race gets called.
 
Zefah said:
Hey Laserbeam is back with his extreme cynicism!

If you honestly thought that it doesn't matter which candidate gets elected then I highly doubt you would post in this thread very much or even pay attention to politics. After the last 8 years of Bush the only people who can honestly believe that it doesn't matter who gets elected are the conspiracy theorists who think the world is really controlled by some secret government (ala The Patriots from Metal Gear Solid) led by Emperor Rockefeller.
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Nothing is more annoying than Republicans who suddenly play the "they both suck" card or the "I don't care card" but still carry water for Republican ideology and talking points. If this election doesn't matter then don't post in the fucking thread or don't post in political threads in general. It makes no sense.
 
Rhindle said:
Those all look like a bunch of contrived rationalizations to me.
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It's just a counter to the retarded media narrative where young people don't vote because they're lazy.

The truth of the matter is that young people vote at comparable levels to to other ages once registered, but a large portion of people don't register right away. But every election people throw a huge hissyfit about youth turnout even though last election the portion of potential young voters went up by 9%.

The piece as a whole is pretty spinny but the basic point that you should look at percentage of potential youth voters who turned out, rather than share of the electorate, is accurate.
 
Stoney Mason said:
Nothing is more annoying than Republicans who suddenly play the "they both suck" card or the "I don't care card" but still carry water for Republican ideology and talking points. If this election doesn't matter then don't post in the fucking thread or don't post in political threads in general. It makes no sense.
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This.
 
reilo said:
CALLED IT!
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Well, to a certain extent he is right, and he does concede that the President does have an effect on the economy. It is much less than some people think, however. The President isn't commander in chief of the economy, he's just a guy with a whole lot more influence on it than most people.

But yeah, when you look at the job growth and state of the economy under Republican presidents vs. Democrat presidents, it's hard to claim that it's all some grand coincidence. :P
 
reilo said:
Uhm, I used the comma properly to emphasize the word "sadly". There was nothing wrong with the usage of my comma.

It's like beginning a sentence like this:
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Since when are commas used for emphasis? You are never supposed to use commas when you pause or "emphasize" or something like that. Saying something like:

"Sadly, your penis is stuck in Obama's ass."

does not make sense.

Although, I would say you are still a dumbass.

Don't do drugs kids, and go back to school.
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Having some sort of a superiority complex isn't very appealing with you.
 
Loudninja said:
What?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdi4onAQBWQ

This is what laserbeam is referring to. His paraphrase isn't exactly what Obama says.

Here's a link to a shortened transcript:

http://www.wsaz.com/political/headlines/33726759.html

"If somebody wants to build a coal power plant they can, it's just that it will bankrupt them because they are going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted," Barack Obama said to the San Francisco Chronicle in January.
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This is why I said Obama's chances for taking Pennsylvania are lower than people think. He'll probably still win it, but it will be close.
 
Illuminati said:
Since when are commas used for emphasis? You are never supposed to use commas when you pause or "emphasize" or something like that. Saying something like:

"Sadly, your penis is stuck in Obama's ass."

does not make sense.
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If you are going to argue grammer, go make a thread about it and call it "GrammarGAF." Don't do it in here.

Oh, and this sentence
"Sadly, your penis is stuck in Obama's ass,"

is extremely immature.
 
Illuminati said:
Since when are commas used for emphasis? You are never supposed to use commas when you pause or "emphasize" or something like that. Saying something like:

"Sadly, your penis is stuck in Obama's ass."

does not make sense.
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Seriously, go back to school:

http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/commas_intro.htm

When an introductory adverbial element seems to modify the entire sentence and not just the verb or some single element in the rest of the sentence, put a comma after it.

* Fortunately, no one in the bridal party was in that car.
* Sadly, the old church was completely destroyed.​
 * On the other hand, someone obviously was badly injured.
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If this doesn't make sense to you, then that just means you are not capable to comprehend the simple basics of grammar.
 
Dax01 said:
If you are going to argue grammer, go make a thread about it and call it "GrammarGAF." Don't do it in here.
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If you are going to single me out about arguing about grammar how about you look and see who brought up grammar in the first place.

Dax01 said:
is extremely immature.
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And his comment wasn't?

besada said:
Predictable as well as mentally challenged.
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That was my intention, so you could understand.
 
Illuminati said:
http://www.unc.edu/depts/wcweb/handouts/commas.html
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When an introductory adverbial element seems to modify the entire sentence and not just the verb or some single element in the rest of the sentence, put a comma after it.

* Fortunately, no one in the bridal party was in that car.
* Sadly, the old church was completely destroyed. <---------------------
* On the other hand, someone obviously was badly injured.
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English motherfucker!
 
Loudninja said:
What?
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He is referring to this: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gl...s-sf-chronicle-he-will-bankrupt-coal-industry

"I was the first to call for a 100% auction on the cap and trade system, which means that every unit of carbon or greenhouse gases emitted would be charged to the polluter. That will create a market in which whatever technologies are out there that are being presented, whatever power plants that are being built, that they would have to meet the rigors of that market and the ratcheted down caps that are being placed, imposed every year.

So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted."
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Uncle TED!!!

The Hill said:
Convicted Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens will air a two-minute advertisement Monday on seven television stations across his home state in an effort to salvage his political career and win reelection Tuesday, his campaign has announced.

The Republican was found guilty last week of seven counts of making false statements relating to gifts. He was already facing the most difficult reelection campaign of his four-decade Senate career.

Without the filter of the media, Alaskans will be able to hear from Sen. Stevens in his own words during this spot, which is four times longer than standard television ads,” his campaign said. “This unique format will allow Sen. Stevens to speak in greater detail about issues that concern Alaska voters and not just in the sound bites that 30-second advertisements require.”

Stevens faces Democratic Anchorage Mayor Mark Begich in a race that was a virtual tie before the verdict was handed down Monday.

A Rasmussen poll conducted the day after Stevens’s conviction showed Begich leading by eight points, 52-44. A Research 2000 poll for the liberal website Daily Kos had the mayor of Alaska’s largest city up 58-36.

Stevens is appealing the conviction and resisting calls from GOP colleagues to step aside.

The ad will air on seven stations, including two each in Anchorage and Fairbanks, between 6 and 6:30 p.m.
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http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/stevens-advertises-to-save-seat-2008-11-02.html

Yeah Ted, it's the filter of the media that is screwing up your re-election campaign. it has nothing to do with the fact you were just convicted of 7 felonies.
 
kkaabboomm said:
ok, CBS DOES have a new poll out today, but which wasn't properly linked to in an earlier post. the numbers were right, but the link was wrong

Obama - 54
McCain 41

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/11/02/politics/horserace/entry4564135.shtml


and then of course USA Today has their final poll

Obama - 53
McCain - 42

http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2008/11/final-usa-today.html

so there we go.
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And that his how you post poll information. From the USA today/gallup poll btw

McCain's choice of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate doesn't appear to be wearing well with most Americans. In the poll, 45% of registered voters rated the choice as "poor" and another 18% said it was "only fair," while 19% called it "pretty good" and 16% excellent.

Those are much more negative ratings than in a USA TODAY survey taken just after the Republican National Convention in St. Paul. Then, 60% called the pick of Palin excellent or good; 38% said it was "only fair" or poor.

In contrast, assessments of Barack Obama's choice of Delaware Sen. Joe Biden remain positive. Now, 60% call Obama's choice excellent or "pretty good," while 38% say it was "only fair" or poor. In early September, the divide was 63%-33%.

Biden has a favorable-unfavorable rating of 53%-32%. Palin has a favorable-unfavorable rating of 42%-49%.

One more historic tidbit from the survey: Obama's favorable rating is 62% -- the highest that any presidential candidate has registered in Gallup's final pre-election polls going back to 1992.
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I don't think anyone really wants to be banned on Tuesday, guys. We're almost there. Don't lose your cool <2 days before such a big event.
 
icarus-daedelus said:
Coal power is a bigger source for greenhouse gases, so yeah, you'd want to downsize that mother like the Surgeon General did to tobacco.
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It needs to be downsized by way of replacement energy being produced and built. Causing an entire industry to go under will result in tons of jobs lost and increased fuel costs on the American people that are already taking it in the ass.
 
Stoney Mason said:
And that his how you post poll information. From the USA today/CNN poll btw
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i;m guessing you mean USA Today/Gallup poll (thats what the quote is from, anyways.)

CNN/opinion research group found the same thing, though
CNN said:
A CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey released Sunday indicates that McCain's running mate is growing less popular among voters and may be costing the Republican presidential nominee a few crucial percentage points in the race for the White House.

Fifty-seven percent of likely voters questioned in the poll say that Palin does not have the personal qualities a president should have. That's up eight points since September. Fifty-three percent say that she does not agree with them on important issues. That's also higher than in September.
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http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/02/poll-palin-may-be-hurting-more-than-helping-mccain/

either way, Palin helped kill McCain's chances, probably the largest thing that did. I'm not saying there aren't like 100 other things that did (lying, being a R, the economy, etc, etc, etc) but Palin is the top drag it seems
 
National polls don't mean anything. No point in discussing them in such detail. They're interesting snapshots but the winner isn't determined by the popular vote. Also, they don't take into consideration early voting, voter turnout, people without landlines, etc.
 
laserbeam said:
It needs to be downsized by way of replacement energy being produced and built. Causing an entire industry to go under will result in tons of jobs lost and increased fuel costs on the American people that are already taking it in the ass.
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Might wanna read this

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/b/a/2008/11/02/nov05election-lies_half_truth_2.DTL

Shockingly the closer a "BOMBSHELL" interview clip comes out to the election, the more out of context or wrong it is.
 
Synth_floyd said:
National polls don't mean anything. No point in discussing them in such detail. They're interesting snapshots but the winner isn't determined by the popular vote. Also, they don't take into consideration early voting, voter turnout, people without landlines, etc.
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A 5-7 point spread in the popular vote guarantees a blowout election.
 
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