PoliGAF Interim Thread of 2008 Early Voting (THE FINAL COUNTDOWN: T MINUS 2 DAYS)

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reilo said:
Wasserman-Schultz: "Is it liberal to be able to go to the hospital, get medical care, and not have to worry about whether you can pay your bills?

Health care is of the very unfortunate casualties of partisan politics (and the cold war) :(
 
Speevy said:
I know this will sound weird, but I always feel like sitting out an election, or sporting event, or whatever as I have to do on Tuesday while I work, deprives my favorite "team" of the energy they'll need to win.

Not only am I missing a historic event, but I also feel powerless (though I've already voted Obama)

Does that make any sense? I'll have to get someone to update me on the polls as I'm working.
Not only do I have class on Tuesday, but I also have a job interview, and I won't be home until 6PM at least - PST.
 
I'm not sure if this was posted in American medias.. It's incredible how fast this thread is, was there something like 50 pages of postst just today?

A well known french canadian duo of phone prankers actually pranked Palin last week. It's impossible to search if this was posted.. So check it out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbEwKcs-7Hc

some english speaking sources:
http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5idPXM6GDkOzIX-_At5WVYrBoJ6JQ

MONTREAL — In an over-the-top accent, one half of a notorious Quebec comedy duo claims to be the president of France as he describes sex with his famous wife, the joy of killing animals and Hustler magazine's latest Sarah Palin porno spoof.

At the other end of the line? An oblivious Sarah Palin.

The Masked Avengers, a radio pairing notorious for prank calls to celebrities and heads of state, notched its latest victory Saturday when it released a recording of a six-minute call with Palin, who thought she was talking with Nicolas Sarkozy.

Throughout the call, which was making the rounds in U.S. political circles by day's end Saturday, Palin and the pranksters discuss politics, pundits, and the perils of going hunting with Vice-President Dick Cheney.

"We have such great respect for you, John McCain and I, we love you," Palin gushes, evidently unaware she's speaking to an infamous Quebec comedian named Marc-Antoine Audette.

At one point, Palin even comes close to confirming her intention to one day run for president, when Audette slyly remarks he can see her taking over the big desk in the Oval office.
 
How likely it is that Obama will do the following?

1) Win Florida?

2) Win Georgia?

3) Win Virgina?

4) Win Pennsylvania?

5) Win New Hampshire?

6) Win Colorado?

7) Win Iowa?


If he wins 2-7, it's a solid victory for him, right? So that's where everyone's concerns should be focused. The above states.
 
The View-Age will be ending soon, a few days of Hasselbeck stupidity and bitter tears is enough for most.

But this week has a kooky mix of guests.

Mo 11/3: George Stephanopoulos, Seth Meyers
Tu 11/4: Dennis Hopper, Brad Paisley
We 11/5: Mayor Michael Bloomberg
Th 11/6: Roger Moore, Jean-Claude Van Damme
Fr 11/7: Ricky Gervais, Mario Cantone, Steve Harvey

Also highlights of other shows this week.

Craig Ferg
Mo 11/3: Bill Maher

Conan
Fr 11/7: Ricky Gervais

Ellen
Tu 11/4: Bill Maher
 
lawblob said:
Lindsey Graham is an absolute piece of shit. The guy is the biggest shill / whore for the GOP; someone should tell him he has no chance of gaining a more prominent position within the party. I am so sick of seeing him on MTP, he never has anything insightful or interesting to say. I wish that piece of shit would go away.

I'm with you on that although I have to say Face the Nation and Late Edition w/Wolf Blitzer are far worse than MTP for bringing back irritating guests. They both rehash Lindsey Graham, John Kyl, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, and Janet Napolitano so many times, that there were a few times when I thought iTunes was playing the previous week's show.

Cloudy said:
I think the major benefit is that we might see a big reduction in dirty politics on the presidential level as every up and comer tries to imitate him..

Don't get your hopes up. McCain, Gordon Smith, and a few others have tried to co-opt Obama's style and namesake, and all that really happens is they go back to their old tactics once the ruse fails to deliver. Successful imitation would require some basic overlapping similarities and favorable circumstances, both of which will be out of most candidates' control. Besides, most candidates will likely just try to slap together some basic online presence to peddle incessantly for money and figure that repeating the word "change" ad nauseum will be sufficient to make similar gains. If you want candidates to tone down the negativity, you're basically going to have to 3 things: organize, donate, and yell.
 
i don't see him winning any of those...frankly I need to express my concerns here that he can win new jersey...

mccain has a field office here and cindy mccain is very popular....
 
Heidi Harris: "So far, 40% of Democrats have voted, and only 30% republicans, but we aren't worried about that, because traditionally, republicans vote on election day."

Well, you keep not worrying, and I'll just laugh at you when Obama takes Nevada.
 
Speevy said:
I know this will sound weird, but I always feel like sitting out an election, or sporting event, or whatever as I have to do on Tuesday while I work, deprives my favorite "team" of the energy they'll need to win.

Not only am I missing a historic event, but I also feel powerless (though I've already voted Obama)

Does that make any sense? I'll have to get someone to update me on the polls as I'm working.
I'm working on Tuesday too :( and I couldnt take the day off as there is a 'demo' that I've to execute ..
 
TheGrayGhost said:
How likely it is that Obama will do the following?

1) Win Florida?


Could go either way.

2) Win Georgia?

I'm praying for Obama to win Georgia, but I don't think it will happen in the end.


3) Win Virgina?

Very likely.

4) Win Pennsylvania?

Almost certainly.


5) Win New Hampshire?

John Mccain doesn't even think he can win this state.

6) Win Colorado?

Probably, but could be a shocker.


7) Win Iowa?
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Obama is still well ahead in Iowa.
 
What tracking sites is everyone using for election night?

MSNBC frustrated the hell out of me during the primaries, NY Times seemed...okay.

Who is going to be best?
 
Just got back from canvassing, and I think I'm going to go door to door on Tuesday. Michigan isn't in much doubt, but I wanted to feel proud that I helped turn my county for Obama and that I did something for this election. I don't want to think that I should have done more like in Schindler's List or something. My TV must be worth at least five votes, but I have to have something to watch the election on.
 
Wow, this Heidi Harris, a right-wing radio host, is openly praying for the Bradley Effect to give McCain the election.

These fuckers are actually relying on racism to hand McCain this election!

AMERICA: FUCK YEAH.

WedgeX said:
What tracking sites is everyone using for election night?

MSNBC frustrated the hell out of me during the primaries, NY Times seemed...okay.

Who is going to be best?
CNN.com was pretty damn good and right on time.
 
Rhindle said:
Have any states published a breakdown of early voting by age?

I've now heard a couple of people say the youth turnout so far is disappointing. Someone on a CNN panel yesterday mentioned 15% younger voters in GA early voting vs. 25% of total voting age population.

That would be pretty disappointing, even though it should not affect the outcome.

The early voting numbers at our nearby university early voting stations here in my part of NC were fine.

Honestly, one unspoken part about the youth vote isn't just its size, but the huge margins that Obama has been pulling with them. The other side of it is that the hard work in getting the youth vote to turn out is getting them registered-something the Obama team did a good job with-and that once registered the voters turn out at a similar percentage than other demographics.

Keep in mind also that "new voter" and "young voter" should not be used interchangably here. There's been a strong movement to get lapsed voters and slightly older than 25 people who never bothered to register to vote (especially in the African-American community) to vote for Obama as well.
 
TheGrayGhost said:
How likely it is that Obama will do the following?

1) Win Florida?

2) Win Georgia?

3) Win Virgina?

4) Win Pennsylvania?

5) Win New Hampshire?

6) Win Colorado?

7) Win Iowa?


If he wins 2-7, it's a solid victory for him, right? So that's where everyone's concerns should be focused. The above states.
1) Maybe

2) Incredibly unlikely

3) Very likely

4) Solid lock

5) Solid lock

6) Solid lock

7) Solid lock
 
WedgeX said:
What tracking sites is everyone using for election night?

MSNBC frustrated the hell out of me during the primaries, NY Times seemed...okay.

Who is going to be best?
Can you watch coverage? MSNBC will probally have a stream up. I thought that CNN and NYT had the best tracking.
 
Father_Brain said:
Before people complain about low youth turnout, I suggest they read this:

http://mydd.com/story/2008/11/2/16466/6454
Those all look like a bunch of contrived rationalizations to me. What matters is the contribution younger voters make to the final vote. That's all candidates in future election cycles are going to care about.

If that rate remains flat or ticks up only marginally in this election, that would be a pretty big disappointment. If this election didn't get under-35s to get their act together, none ever will.
 
TheGrayGhost said:
How likely it is that Obama will do the following?

1) Win Florida?

2) Win Georgia?

3) Win Virgina?

4) Win Pennsylvania?

5) Win New Hampshire?

6) Win Colorado?

7) Win Iowa?


If he wins 2-7, it's a solid victory for him, right? So that's where everyone's concerns should be focused. The above states.

Don't forget New York. McCain can still win there.
 
ratcliffja said:
So I just went to my first presidential rally last night. I'd say around 15,000 people showed up to watch Michelle and Barack Obama in Springfield, MO. Yes, Springfield, MO. We waited in line for about 4 hours just to get in, as it was held in a high school football stadium. It was absolutely insane. Also, there were two guys dressed as Mario and Luigi. I figured it was some crazy delayed Halloween thing, but as we were leaving, they said that they were "Plumbers for Obama". I regret not taking their picture, but that was pretty awesome.

I was at that same rally. Got there at 11:30 am, spent the whole day waiting in line, but it was well worth it when we got a spot right up against the barrier by the stage and got to shake Barack's hand after he was done talking :D

BTW, I think a couple of the speakers at the rally mentioned that it was more like 40,000 people there. Absolutely unheard of in Southwest Missouri.
 
Fox318 said:
Can you watch coverage? MSNBC will probally have a stream up. I thought that CNN and NYT had the best tracking.

I'll be watching pbs (no cable, etc.) so any stream will be overkill.

CNN with NY Times backup it is!
 
Shockgamer said:
Maher and Huckabee are going at it over religion. :lol Damn Maher had him at the defensive the whole time.


Actually, I thought this was very interesting, and I believe Maher was surprised at how well Huckabee defended himself.
 
TheGrayGhost said:
How likely it is that Obama will do the following?

1) Win Florida?

2) Win Georgia?

3) Win Virgina?

4) Win Pennsylvania?

5) Win New Hampshire?

6) Win Colorado?

7) Win Iowa?


If he wins 2-7, it's a solid victory for him, right? So that's where everyone's concerns should be focused. The above states.
1) A bit above 50%. Not much, though.
2) Low, but not impossible. Requires turnout to continue to be radically different from what polls were expecting. And even then, it will depend a lot on how Obama plays among Southern whites.
3) High. The trend in Virginia in recent elections and in polls has been towards the blue.
4) High. McCain wants to make it sound like a contest, but McCain seriously needs a miracle to pull this one out.
5) 100%
6) High. See also: Virginia.
7) 100%
 
typhonsentra said:
Why the hell is Virginia unlikely? When was the last time you saw a poll with McCain ahead there?


The state he's saying is unlikely is Georgia, and it's always been something that could happen under the right circumstances, but prevailing logic says Mccain still takes it.
 
Y2Kev said:
i don't see him winning any of those...frankly I need to express my concerns here that he can win new jersey...

mccain has a field office here and cindy mccain is very popular....
Aw c'mon Kev :lol
 
Speevy said:
The state he's saying is unlikely is Georgia, and it's always been something that could happen under the right circumstances, but prevailing logic says Mccain still takes it.
... Something is wrong with my eyes and I'm not joking. Scary, I'm only 23 and I've had perfect vision up until recently. I hope it's just that I'm tired but I've been misreading a lot lately.
 
Gruco said:
When this election is over, Liddy Dole, Elizabeth Hassekbeck, Norm Coleman, Saxby Chambliss and Mitch McConnel are going to start their own round table morning talk show. It's going to be incredible.
"YOU ARE RIGHT!"
"NO YOU ARE MORE RIGHTER!"
"WE ARE ALL RIGHT!!!"

"ECHO CHAMBER AYERS WRIGHT MEOOOOOOOOW"
 
Tamanon said:
Actually....in New Jersey, that sounds like a good margin of error.
my new jersey-bound friend is currently hand-wringing over the supertracker on 538

soooo annoying
 
I'm actually really surprised Hassekbeck hasn't jumped ship to Fox and Friends. She reminds me a lot of ED Hill, of Terrorist fist jab fame
 
StoOgE said:
FUCK YOU THIS SHIT IS SO GOD DAMN CLOSE WE CANT BE JOKING.

ITS TIGHT.

TIGHTER THAN A FROGS BUTT.
The polling is closer than Illuminati's IQ, fuck!
 
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