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[travisbickle]

You scald them, and perhaps rightly so, but they don't really have a point of reference apart from what they're told happened.

Wait a minute? Is this some sort of it may not have happened how we are told post?

I'm a big fan of Jean Baudrillard's "The Gulf War Did Not Take Place" but I don't think there's much room for media misinterpreting what happened during racial segregation.

 

[Moral Panic]

Don't do that dude. It's pretty clear what he means.

 

[krazen]

According to wiki the public backlash led to a change in policy. So who won?

There was no change; a low level PR person said so while they were negotiating to bring the franchise to Chicago, but the big boys on top denied it a few days later.

I think you guys heavily underestimate how shitty people are...from women's rights to Jim Crow to arguably Gay Marriage...the majority really doesn't care about how minorities are treated until they make a huge fuss about it. If those groups & the govt waited until mainstream America woke up much of those shitty policies would still be in place.

Nobody cares until it affects them. There is a reason why social change takes DECADES when it's something blatantly wrong as, 'Black people can't eat next to me', LOL.

 

[Arksy]

Wait a minute? Is this some sort of it may not have happened how we are told post?

I'm a big fan of Jean Baudrillard's "The Gulf War Did Not Take Place" but I don't think there's much room for media misinterpreting what happened during racial segregation.

Um....No. Not at all. I merely meant that millennials didn't grow up during that period of high racism and may have never seen the effect of institutionalised segregation and therefore don't really understand. I'm basically saying yes, it is a high possibility that they are ignorant. Keep your tinfoil hat accusations for someone else.

 

[IHaveCandy]

Do you think anyone would actually tell you why you were picked over someone else if it was based on race?

If nothing is wrong with giving minorities am advantage in being hired, I don't see why they shouldn't be told that was the tie breaking factor.

 

[Earthstrike]

Wait a minute? Is this some sort of it may not have happened how we are told post?

I'm a big fan of Jean Baudrillard's "The Gulf War Did Not Take Place" but I don't think there's much room for media misinterpreting what happened during racial segregation.

No, the problem is that the media doesn't interpret it at all. How often is Fox news actively talking about the historicity of the oppression of blacks.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Thread. <------------------ pole, approximately 10 feet in length ------------------> Me.

 

[Wafflecakes]

Because millenials are ignorant as shit and think that blacks have gone from being slaves to having equal opportunity with whites just inside of 150 years. The fucking guys were drinking out of different fountains as recent as 50 years ago but now that's illegal so it must be just as easy for a black to succeed as a white, right?

Going play devils advocate here.

I know a lot of people and the idea of "the sins of the fathers" being passed down and that younger people somehow owe something for what their parents did is being rejected. Many young people don't see the sins of that age as their sins, they themselves don't hold those biases, so why should they feel like they should suffer (through having a harder time getting aid, entrance, etc) to repay that debt?

If now is not the point were equal opportunity exists then where is that line EXACTLY? Spell it out in a verifiable way. Is it when the population of people of color in college is proportional to the population? Is it when they are paid 100% equally? Thats gunna be hard since nothing is ever 100% equal.....one is always ahead of the other. Is it our job to propel them to 100% or just get them close enough that they have the same general opportunities?

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Going play devils advocate here.

I know a lot of people and the idea of "the sins of the fathers" being passed down and that younger people somehow owe something for what their parents did is being rejected. Many young people don't see the sins of that age as their sins, they themselves don't hold those biases, so why should they feel like they should suffer (though having a harder time getting aid, entrance, etc) to repay that debt?

If now is not the point were equal opportunity exists then where is that line EXACTLY? Spell it out in a verifiable way. Is it when the population of people of color in college is proportional to the population. Is it when they are paid 100% equally? Thats gunna be hard since nothing is ever 100% equal.....one is always ahead of the other.

[insert tim wise video here]

 

[Karsticles]

[insert tim wise video here]

Ugh, I hate that guy. Possibly the biggest douche I've ever met.

 

[Nightstick11]

Affirmative action in its current form needs to die a quick death. Race-based "diversity" to get results in line with each ethnicity's percentage of the population is absurd and farcical, and hurts Asian, Indian, and Middle Eastern kids unfairly and unjustly.

We should not be limiting those ethnicities's percentage of a workforce or college population to single-digit % for any reason; most of the asian and indian kids I knew growing up were academically spectacular, but a lot got shafted in the admissions processes.

That Washington Metro Area article is a hellish nightmare, and although it's probably an extreme case, it illustrates a result that is the worst out of all possible and feasible things we can do about affirmative action vs. meritocracy.

A meritocracy is by far the most fair way.

 

[HarryHengst]

Going play devils advocate here.

I know a lot of people and the idea of "the sins of the fathers" being passed down and that younger people somehow owe something for what their parents did is being rejected. Many young people don't see the sins of that age as their sins, they themselves don't hold those biases, so why should they feel like they should suffer (through having a harder time getting aid, entrance, etc) to repay that debt?

If now is not the point were equal opportunity exists then where is that line EXACTLY? Spell it out in a verifiable way. Is it when the population of people of color in college is proportional to the population? Is it when they are paid 100% equally? Thats gunna be hard since nothing is ever 100% equal.....one is always ahead of the other. Is it our job to propel them to 100% or just get them close enough that they have the same general opportunities?

But America is even failing ''getting them close enough that they have the same general opportunities''?