Polygon COD: Ghosts Review update: (XBONE better version)

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From Polygons :
While the Xbox One version of Call of Duty: Ghosts has been confirmed by Activision to run at a lower resolution than its PS4 counterpart (720p upscaled to 1080p native, respectively), that numerical difference is less meaningful than you might imagine.

The two versions look nearly identical. Viewing the Xbox One release next to the PS4 , I had difficulty telling them apart. It's possible that the PS4 version looked somewhat sharper, but that may have just been my imagination after confirming the hard resolution difference. The next-gen releases of Call of Duty: Ghosts are so close together that gun to my head, I'd have no confidence in being able to discern which version was which — at least, while the two are standing still.
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Just ... wow.
 
Don't worry, I'll have both versions on their respective system's launch day, I'll give you the no bullshit edition on which is better. You're welcome Internet.
 
So, is this what took gaf down?

Honestly, not really the PS4's or XBONE's fault. If the game runs like shit and is completely unoptimized for PC then something went wrong with the development of this game.

I think that releasing Ghosts for so many platforms, implementing some new graphical features, and getting this out of the door on a tight schedule could have caused the framerate issues.
 
Phat Michael said:
LOL exactly. First, digital foundry is awesome. They showed the XB1 version of battlefield 4 looking better than the ps4 version. "oh it was their capture equipment, it can't be trusted!"

Polygon confirms cod looks better on xb1 "oh they can't be trusted!"

Fantastic. Isn't that what the MS people said? It would be much closer than the specs give away?
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What? DF showed footage and said the PS4 version looks better, just because they used bad capture equipment doesn't mean they came to a different conclusion.
 
Broken Hope said:
One thing I'd like to ask is why are sites making such a big deal out of XB1 displaying games at 1080P when they rendered at 720P? The Wii U displays all games, including Wii games at 1080P but not a single review site makes that distinction, have Microsoft mandated that sites mention the fact?
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It seems that way.

I mean it is the same for current gen. Even if the console doesn't do it your TV will.
 
polygon just won.

they wanted to make you guys blow up and talk about it and they just did. Gaf is blowing up over a biased review which is getting them more attention thus more clicks.
 
Americanmushroom said:
Why are we focussing on this review while IGN and Videogamer finds the PS4 version superior? Aren't those thread worhty too?
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Because the PS4 is more powerful? It's like getting a thread every time someone says the PC version of a game is superior.

If the PC version is so awful that people aren't that sure it'll be better than consoles, then we do get threads (Deadly Premonition, Dark Souls).

Not saying I entirely agree with the thread, reviewers are far from being reliable source of tech talk, I think a DF comparison would be better.
 
FairXchange said:
So the reviewer can't tell difference between resolution, but has a keen eye for framerate drops on PS4?

Give me a break, and I've also watched tons of footage of the PS4 version of Ghosts and haven't noticed detrimental frame drops. I'll be the judge of that though, on the 15th.
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Framerate drops are more noticeable while you're playing because it's variable. When you drop from 60 -> 45 fps you notice that change. Resolution is constant and doesn't change while you're playing so it's just not as easy to notice while you're playing.

It would be one thing if the PS4 was 1080p with lots of AA, but both versions have jaggies, which is why it becomes a bit harder to tell the difference. One has jaggies and one has slightly less jaggies.
 
GeoramA said:
May have just been his imagination that the PS4 version looks sharper? WTF am I reading??
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It's seriously writing 101 to not claim things could "have been your imagination" when you're doing a review. Anyone who's ever written a 1st year university review knows that (Hell, a high school review even), let alone someone who's actually a journalist.
 
IcyEyes said:
From Polygons :
While the Xbox One version of Call of Duty: Ghosts has been confirmed by Activision to run at a lower resolution than its PS4 counterpart (720p upscaled to 1080p native, respectively), that numerical difference is less meaningful than you might imagine.

The two versions look nearly identical. Viewing the Xbox One release next to the PS4 , I had difficulty telling them apart. It's possible that the PS4 version looked somewhat sharper, but that may have just been my imagination after confirming the hard resolution difference. The next-gen releases of Call of Duty: Ghosts are so close together that gun to my head, I'd have no confidence in being able to discern which version was which — at least, while the two are standing still.
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Just ... wow.
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its okay he's an expert in framerates, so that will balance out the review.
 
.5 lower score for the version with a lower framerate in a series where framerate is considered to be extremely important. Even considering the internet goes crazy over review scores in general, I truly don't understand why people are flipping out over this one.
 
Can Crusher said:
Polygon already doing its work. Not being able to notice the difference between 720p and 1080p destroys their credibility.

Shill site.
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Usually shill accusations are baseless and false, but with Polygon it's actually pretty accurate, at least on the basis that they did take a massive chunk of money from Microsoft for a particular feature. Massive chunk meaning $750,000....

But that doesn't mean they are wrong here. Resolution vs frame rate could very well be the case. The comparisons will tell the tale, but not being able to tell the difference between 1080p and 720p is pretty amusing.
 
coldfoot said:
Holy shit look at that review! "Can't tell 720p from 1080p unless there's a gun to my head?" How is Polygon even respected and not belong to the same shit tier as xx420xxgames.com?
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Most people CANNOT tell the difference between resolutions. That's a fact. So this is not surprising. Not sure we should hold Polygon to a higher standard than the general public
 
I can't really comment on how noticeable these framerate drops are. But i can see the difference in image quality, even on a compressed vid (jaggies vs cleaner).
Having said that, the difference isn't huge at all. So if the framerate is REALLY NOTICEABLY bad on the PS4, i can imagine people going for the XboxOne version.
 
Jigolo said:
polygon just won.

they wanted to make you guys blow up and talk about it and they just did. Gaf is blowing up over a biased review which is getting them more attention thus more clicks.
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I seriously think this is their agenda sometimes. I mean all the staff at polygon follow the new neogaf threads twitter account right? Do any of them ever post here?
 
Jigolo said:
polygon just won.

they wanted to make you guys blow up and talk about it and they just did. Gaf is blowing up over a biased review which is getting them more attention thus more clicks.
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I haven't gave them one click at all, I don't ever visit polygon. I just read the quoted from the people that quote them. They are not getting anything from me.

Nymphae said:
I seriously think this is their agenda sometimes. I mean all the staff at polygon follow the new neogaf threads twitter account right? Do any of them ever post here?
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Gies did for a bit, then stopped after losing a bet I think. I would still like to know the bet he lost..
 
Iced_Eagle said:
Framerate drops are more noticeable while you're playing because it's variable. When you drop from 60 -> 45 fps you notice that change. Resolution is constant and doesn't change while you're playing so it's just not as easy to notice while you're playing.

It would be one thing if the PS4 was 1080p with lots of AA, but both versions have jaggies, which is why it becomes a bit harder to tell the difference. One has jaggies and one has slightly less jaggies.
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720p is apparent every single second that you're playing the game. It doesn't just amount to one being 'slightly less jaggy'.
 
why do you guys even visit this site? the simcity debacle already proved that these guys don't even know what they're doing. maybe they'll re-review the PS4 version again if it gets patched (yeah, right).
 
I'm actually pretty irritated with the statements in that review as I feel people such as this are essentially telling developers that it's OK to continue aiming for a low resolution.

The difference is enormous both in terms of clarity, due to an increase in pixels, and the elimination of upscaling artifacts (which, as others have noted, is very important). This isn't a matter of opinion, really, upscaling from a low resolution is never a good thing. If certain people claim to be unable to notice a difference, fine, but don't muddy the waters with your useless commentary.

720p is NOT OK for a next-generation title.

It would be one thing if the PS4 was 1080p with lots of AA, but both versions have jaggies, which is why it becomes a bit harder to tell the difference. One has jaggies and one has slightly less jaggies.
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No, it's not a matter of "slightly less jaggies". The difference is dramatic and significant.
 
German magazines like Maniac.de and GamersGlobal.de claim that the PS4-version looks sharper and that there is a lot of aliasing on Xbox One.

IGN.com also favors the PS4-version.
 
I totally disagree with them that 720p is almost identical to 1080p, no matter the upscaling magic, but I also agree with them that 60fps is better than an unstable frame rate. For me, a smooth framerate is more important than the difference between 720p and 1080p in an action game, so if what they are saying is accurate, I think it's totally fair to give the 60fps version a better score.
 
Ladies and gentlemen.

THIS is why you don't make judgements/decisions based on other peoples opinions of what is fun/acceptable/important.

Take the information as it is and make your own decision.
 
If a professional reviewer can't tell the difference between 720 and 1080p, they really shouldn't be working in this industry.

I'm pretty sure Polygon are just trolling GAF now.
 
dark10x said:
I'm actually pretty irritated with the statements in that review as I feel people such as this are essentially telling developers that it's OK to continue aiming for a low resolution.

The difference is enormous both in terms of clarity, due to an increase in pixels, and the elimination of upscaling artifacts (which, as others have noted, is very important). This isn't a matter of opinion, really, upscaling from a low resolution is never a good thing. If certain people claim to be unable to notice a difference, fine, but don't muddy the waters with your useless commentary.

720p is NOT OK for a next-generation title.
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I love how he says 'if I did see a difference, maybe I imagined it.' It's one of the most weasely things I've ever read. He saw a difference. He didn't imagine it. I won't speculate why he'd say something like that.
 
famousmortimer said:
The score is still a 7 on polygon. Not sure why people keep saying it's back to 6.5
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On the banner is 7 at the end of the text is 6.5. A complete mess.

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Ludicrous Speed said:
Most people CANNOT tell the difference between resolutions. That's a fact. So this is not surprising. Not sure we should hold Polygon to a higher standard than the general public
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Ya, that's what i don't get about this thread.
For months now right on this site people have downplayed the graphics of next gen games that they've played despite knowing that they were running at a higher native resolution (Fifa,COD,Forza,etc....).
 
ill never waste 2 mins of my life reading a review of a Cod serie game...
also if this made me smile for all the angry fanboys
 
I'm glad Polygon has set the precedent that bad performing games will receive lower scores. I await the rest of their Xbox One reviews.
 
I knew this would happen. Maybe Sony pushed devs to get 1080p resolution at all costs. Seems like it's really affecting the ps4 performance.
 
These are the morons that got $750k from MICROSOFT to make a documentary about their own site called Press Reset.

Wouldn't touch them with a 100ft barge pole.
 
Ludicrous Speed said:
Most people CANNOT tell the difference between resolutions. That's a fact. So this is not surprising. Not sure we should hold Polygon to a higher standard than the general public
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You cannot be serious?

I'm sure there's people out there that can't until it's pointed out but saying "most people" is a stretch.
 
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