Interesting. I'm assuming you mean as games become more technically ambitious, they'll have to downsize resolution on the X1 to work properly there. I actually hadn't considered that before.
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Interesting. I'm assuming you mean as games become more technically ambitious, they'll have to downsize resolution on the X1 to work properly there. I actually hadn't considered that before.
Not on both yet.
He means that the games have never been locked at 60 fps. There have always been framerate dips.
It all depends on whether or not developers can learn to work around the memory limitations.
and you imho do right gaming and the fun that come with it..have nothing to do with resolution talks...
when u turn the console off...you can come online here or in another site...to discuss about specs and other shits
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So polygon wasn't really wrong then? Wonder what other sites say.
Beer Monkey
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Every console CoD game has framerate drops. All of them.
th4tguy
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Only for games that supported that. You could force the system to display at a lower resolution, but it didn't change the native resolution that the game was being rendered at. Not unless the devs allowed for that.
Syphon Filter
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In theory both cod next year should be better. i think they ran out of time for launch.
Wow, did you post this on the right site? Keep this shit off Gaf.
RobbieNick
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I don't really see a problem with the review. I've also heard elsewhere about the PS4 version having framerate issues. He factored that into his review. I'll agree that giving it a .5 upgrade in score over the other versions of that is a bit ridiculous, but constant 60FPS > 1080P every time.
Amentallica
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I understand that, and I agree with you. A titan is more than enough to run anything. If you look at the person I quoted it seems that they are suggesting that it isn't surprising that it doesn't run well on a titan because there are better GPUs out there. That was my impression from the post, which I didn't understand at all.
Unless I'm mistaken, of course.
BurnOutBrighter
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Oh, so Polygon cares about graphics and performance now?
I thought it was "all about the games".
I thought it was "all about the games".
That's not even remotely accurate.
I have theory on this whole saga.
We seem to be in the situation where the game looks like it has been optimised only for MS consoles, and the others not much at all.
What I think has happened is that the XB1 took so much time to optimise what was essentially a pile of crap that they started with, that they ran out of time before release to ensure the PS\WII\PC versions were running smoothly. If it's true that they had MS engineers on site for a long time assisting it may be they let them distract them too much from other versions. That would be bad management if so, as it would have been better to delay one version, then release multiple unfinished versions to poor reviews.
If this is the case we should see patches released for the other versions within a reasonable timeframe, but it would be advisable for IW to pipe up and tell people what the situation is as their reputation is at stake here.
We seem to be in the situation where the game looks like it has been optimised only for MS consoles, and the others not much at all.
What I think has happened is that the XB1 took so much time to optimise what was essentially a pile of crap that they started with, that they ran out of time before release to ensure the PS\WII\PC versions were running smoothly. If it's true that they had MS engineers on site for a long time assisting it may be they let them distract them too much from other versions. That would be bad management if so, as it would have been better to delay one version, then release multiple unfinished versions to poor reviews.
If this is the case we should see patches released for the other versions within a reasonable timeframe, but it would be advisable for IW to pipe up and tell people what the situation is as their reputation is at stake here.
Smh you gotta be kidding me.
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TBF frame rates affect gameplay. If a game runs at below 20fps, it's most certainly a knock on it's gameplay
BurnOutBrighter
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"Well I had the facts in front of me, I just chose to ignore them."
I'm getting really sick of people claiming it looks just like the current gen systems. I have been playing the 360 version for the past week and when I watched the X1 footage today it looked much better.
BurnOutBrighter
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In that case, Dead Rising 3 should get a 3/10 for dipping to 16fps despite running at 720p.
Looking forward to the review on that one, Polygon.
Interfectum
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It's funny because you think the framerate hiccups are due to performance issues and not bugs/sloppy code.
Bright-Light
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Sorry if this has already been asked, but these drops in frame rate, are we talking big drops? I know any fluctuation is noticeable, but are we talking huge drops?
Or will I have to wait for DF comparison?
Or will I have to wait for DF comparison?
Where did it say it ran at 20fps ?
#masterrace
Agreed. Drive by trolling should be removed from discussions.
If there's one game that shouldn't talk about performance issues it's BF4... what a mess those servers have been alongside the buggy client/memory leaks.
Lord Error
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I'm guessing you've seen the PS4 version and it's not in fact upscaled from 720p? Just trying to figure out what happened in that dualshockers comparison.
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It's an inference of the statement. Frame rate matters to gameplay, the degree is determined by the frame rate and the game itself, but it's not contradictory to be all about the games and then complain about framer ate.
Look at the posts on this thread. It seems many people believe PS4 has to be the best version, and they're in denial after they saw the framerate complains.
If that is not a faboy-ish attitude, I don't know what would you consider it.
Not saying there isn't framerate issues but the ps4 version clearly looks better.
Nymphae
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Does it hurt that much? It's a joke.
Obviously because it has better hardware so its not supposed to lose to something inferior I guess. Sounds like rich vs poor lol
Given the origin of "master race" [1], I also don't appreciate that meme at all.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_race
plagiarize
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Where are you getting this?
Some people value framerate over resolution. Some value resolution over framerate.
Please explain to me exactly how you have decided one group is a bunch of fanboys and one isn't? I'd love to hear your methodology.
I prefer "PC Dick Riders", forget which thread that came from, but it makes me chuckle every time.
Cyber Caesar
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SonyGAF should'nt give Polygon any hits/credibility after that TLOU review. Polygon is thirsty.
But the reviewer is clearly saying he prefers the version without frame drops. Is that so fucking hard to understand? According to him, that alone puts Xbone's CoD above PS4's CoD.
I find it astonishing that some posters here need to twist things to believe their console of choice is the best one, and that the reviewer is of course wrong, because his line of thought doesn't align with what they wish.
That said, I do hope the PS4 patch fixes things.
I won't use that review to discredit the entire website, just any future reviews from Phil Kollar.
IndigoStyle
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Really? Im not impressed by the trailers at all, are there any comparisons of 360/PS3 vs X1/PS4?
TechnicPuppet
Nothing! I said nothing!
So not only is the XB1 responsible for the 720p on it's own version it's also responsible for the slight frame rate hits on the PS4 version?
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That's the point it's a self mocking joke. Simply saying PC is the best is obnoxiously stupid. Of course the uses the term truly seriously comes off equally silly but used properly I don't mind it.
plagiarize
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We aren't attacking his comments on framerate.
Xenon
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I guess the Xbox One code is optimized while the PS4's is not? I thought the PS4 was easier to work on.
Keep telling yourself that...
More likely the Xbox One code is unoptimized and the PS4 code is unoptimized, but one is unoptimized and displaying a resolution of 720p.
Amentallica
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Are you suggesting that the Xbox One has a hardware advantage over the PS4?
Sanic
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I don't have a problem with him finding the xbox version to be a better experience because of the framerate alone, BUT
This is dumb. "I'll just ignore the facts for reasons, and throw subjective fluff into an exclusively objective part of my review"
Can we get some retired engineers to go into journalism or something.
This is dumb. "I'll just ignore the facts for reasons, and throw subjective fluff into an exclusively objective part of my review"
Can we get some retired engineers to go into journalism or something.
ref
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Yeah, I guess I'm not crazy.
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I can accept some frame rate differences, but that PS4 shot simply is not in the native 1080p it's supposed to be.
The image quality difference would be extremely noticeable, something going on.
Also, if Jeff from GB is right about the PS4 getting a patch for the drops, this won't even be an issue in the future.
This is an interesting theory. It is possible but the most simple explanation is that by being forced to drop to 720p, the Xbox One gained a secondary benefit of a more stable fps. It seems that the game is poorly optimized on every platform. Including the Xbox One. The game is really not very impressive graphically. It should be able to run 1080p 60 fps on both systems. I think the technical issues are not really a result of the power of either console but more or IW's failure to optimize the game for both consoles and PC.
Hopefully a patch can improve the FPS issue on PS4. I imagine it should be possible for them to make some improvements post-launch.
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