MisterHero
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Marvel without X-Men is like Smash Bros. without Pokemon. It just isn't gonna fly.
Polygon: Yes, a new Marvel vs. Capcom game is in development. (X-Men gone, MCU focus)
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If he gets in, you can likely thank Ryan Reynolds.
This. As concerned as I am about the Fox characters, I'm probably just as concerned about the prospect of MvC4 only being a 2v2 fighting game.
LeMaximilian
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I'm with you guys there. Mechanics wise, SF5 felt like a step down from SF4. If they do 2v2 in a potential MVC4, it'll feel like another step down from MVC3.
Stone Ocean
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Are you talking about Doc Ock? Because him and Frank are the only scrapped MVC3 characters I can think of
2v2 doesn't have to be bad - I still think Tatsunoko was a much better fighting game than MvC3 was, but I definitely think that they should stick to making 3v3 work since that's been the series' signature. I want to see them pull off MvC in a way that might actually be balanced.
Nah it was some sort of Tracer (Overwatch) recall mechanic I think.
SneakersSO
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Where are the Lupinko teases for the X-Men characters?
Stone Ocean
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His tweets, he's been tweeting a bunch of stills from the X Men and Megaman cartoons
This makes the most sense. It'll be some sort of teaser with the image of the game. They'll probably say there will be more info during Capcom Cup.
Here's the quote: "One character we had to reject due to fundamental problems of the character's abilities. There was a Marvel character that controls time. If that character were to be in the game it would destroy the whole game."
That sounds like Kang the Conqueror to me.
Those #datmahvel tweets Lupinko made before the Polygon report dropped.
See I actually feel the opposite. I love 5 way more than 4 (I had fun with 4), but for me, I'm okay with 2v2 with assist (I mean you only use 1 at a time and 1 assist at a time when playing) if they can refine the game play, less rules (specific moves being tagged as otg) and more fun mechanics interacting in interesting ways.
With the rumors also saying they are taking the good things from Mvc2 and 3, I'm hopeful.
J_Macgrady
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I'm not aware of all of the things Marvel has done to spite Fox, but this is a case where that petty corporate bullshit wouldn't make a huge difference sales wise. Like, what do you really gain by not letting the X Men be in a fighting game in which the majority of people are going to drop after month 1 and they've been in the series longer than any other Marvel property?
Gambit has been struggle as fuck in comics since the 90s
How was he power wise when he was a horseman?
If they do 2v2 with one assist character I know most like the main reason why they are doing it.
It's probably to appeal to more players honestly. While MVC is super popular it could be hard for newcomers to get into with the gameplay looking frantic. And you're right it doesn't have to be bad.
SFV has very accessible gameplay with being very fun as well. Also this could be a good way in helping balance the game as well.
Stone Ocean
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What does 2v2 or 3v3 have to do with the game's speed? It's not like you can have two assists on screen anyways.
In the eyes of Perlmutter, it's one less way for people to be introduced to the X-Men & the Fantastic Four. If I recall, that was the logic behind the ban in the first place, to distance the Fox properties from the general Marvel brand. Obviously things are changing now, but the shift is really recent (& possibly too late for MvC4, which is what I fear may be the case).
Doctrine Dark
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Nah, this was a character Niitsuma said they had been working on early in the development. Supposedly a character that manipulated time, but had to be scrapped because he destroyed the game. Ock and West had made it to the latest stage compared to the other scrapped characters. Still salty about no Ock.
Thanks for the quote. Yes, it does sound like Kang now that I think about it. So it seems he never made it to the developmental table. I wonder how he'd work in a fighting game.
Already Torn
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Matches would end way too fast if you didn't have a third character to go through, so they'd slow it down
2v2 is also my worst fear
Stone Ocean
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MSHvsSF and MVC1 weren't exactly slow games
He used bad breath to kill people, pretty low even for a Horseman
Honest question, can you elaborate on why 2v2 +1 assist is your worst fear?
I've seen people worried about 2v2 and I don't understand the worry.
GuileBootCamp
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In his first arc as a Horseman, he had lame gas powers (although he did manage to intimidate Apocalypse with them one time by threatening to kill him), but he later appeared as Death with the ability to charge cards a shadowy black as opposed to their usual glow. When he hit a guy with one, he was basically consumed by the shadowy energy and sucked into the card, painfully. Then one time after that, he appeared with the ability to turn other characters into minions of his, and they had the same jet black skin/white hair/red eyes look. That was the last time the Death persona showed up, though.
There's ways to balance that. You can give characters Killer Instinct-levels of health, go back to a traditional Bo3 setup etc.
The MvC series has more-or-less been defined by 3v3 & the dynamics that come with this set-up. Having it go down to 2v2 would be a step-back from what MvC2 & 3 did.
BumperLips
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Asura being in this would be the hypest shit.
Please capcom I'll take back all the bad things said if you do this.
Please capcom I'll take back all the bad things said if you do this.
Doctrine Dark
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I know if those assists are of highly requested characters, the salt will be unreal.
J_Macgrady
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If it's changing then they could be DLC. I mainly care about the Capcom characters, but I know that people who are more passionate about this series really care about the X Men characters and it would be dumb to not have them in.
Because MvC2 and MvC3 are the games that people love, not MvC1.
If I were given a choice between 3v3 and 2v2, I'd pick 3v3. Like, I'd still play Marvel 4 if it was 2v2, but I just want 3v3 more.
I'm sure Capcom is fully aware, but my concern is that Marvel may not have given a collective fuck at the time the license was regained.
Galactic Specter
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Yeah, possibly going back to 2v2 has me really worried.
How many Gambits would it take to change a lightbulb?
Red Arremer
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Kang the Conqueror doesn't really do Chronokinesis. He has done it sometimes, but his whole shtick is more that he's from the advanced future so he has access to super high tech weapons, and that he's traveling around time and fucking around with the timeline to erase enemies or acquire power more easily.
Time alteration is more linked to reality altering powers, so characters like Scarlet Witch, Franklin Richards, several of the Phoenixes (not only Jean but also Rachel Grey), X-Man and Legion, as well as some minor time manipulation that wizards like Dr. Strange, Magik or Baron Mordo can do. Quicksilver also was able to do it for a while after he inhaled the Terrigen mists on Attilan I believe (tho that might've just been time travel, I don't remember exactly).
This is what's kind of quelling my fears, but that's assuming that the rumor of Combofiend being the battle director are true.
BronsonLee
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Everything I've heard which is sparse as fuck says 2v2
Oh god....
SneakersSO
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Ironically, a dedicated assist slot would ensure that a far larger amount of characters than would normally be possible will eventually make their way into the game.
Troubled Bat
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The only good thing about 2v2 is my OCD not being triggered. Lel
Already Torn
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It's less fun, might as well make TvC2
No, it means more highly requested characters would make cameo appearances and be ruled out for DLC.
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