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[Chukhopops]

As long as you don't do chargebacks or try to obfuscate your requests I don't see what's wrong with it.

The policy is either connected to the EU "right of withdrawal" or a UK equivalent, or MS decided the cost of the refunds is less than the cost of chargebacks/disputes if this policy wasn't in place.

Eventually if too many people do it MS will close the loophole and either make the refund based on remaining time or make GP non-refundable. That would lower the quality of service for other users but that shouldn't be your problem.

 

[Kikorin]

Everytime you do it, it counts like a new subscriber to MS, so you are actually making a favour to uncle Phil.

 

[PeteBull]

You have the power to stop me, Phil

 

[DenchDeckard]

Here the thing though.

I go into it fully willing to pay my $12 to play a game I'm not sure about like Oblivion or Doom. If Microsoft wants to make nothing off of me outside being a statistic to pad their bullshit numbers then who gives a fuck.

Microsoft is the one giving the money back and it's not really a hack at all. You are "cheating the system" you simply aren't letting your game pass renew.

When you have 2 days left in your month with no game to play and they give you two options

• Continue using the service for the days remaining despite not having anything to actually use it for.
• Cancel now and get your money back

Why in the world would you ever choose the first one?

With these excuses you might as well just pirate games.

Im sure you could work out some other mental gymnastics for that to justify it.

Wild

 

[NickFire]

With these excuses you might as well just pirate games.

Im sure you could work out some other mental gymnastics for that to justify it.

Wild

How is this materially different than the three years for a dollar gimmick everyone championed for so long? If the big corp allows almost a full month of access in exchange for being part of their MSU and the interest they make before the money is refunded that's the big corps prerogative and does not make the user a pirate.

 

[Zacfoldor]

Crime is such a hollow and empty word. Insufficient to describe this masterstroke.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Another reason MS has to port their games to the competition they once wanted to spend out of business.

Fixed for irony.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Crime is such a hollow and empty word. Insufficient to describe this masterstroke.

I'm so bad not even El Salvador will take me

 

[Hyet]

Everytime you do it, it counts like a new subscriber to MS, so you are actually making a favour to uncle Phil.

But also accounts for cancelled subscriptions.
Next quarterly financial report for Gamepass growth:

 

[hououinkyouma00]

With these excuses you might as well just pirate games.

Im sure you could work out some other mental gymnastics for that to justify it.

Wild

How is this mental gymnastics? Get Phil's fucking cock out of your throat.

Would you feel the same if it was Netflix? Hulu? Spotify? Maybe PlayStation Plus?

 

[DenchDeckard]

How is this mental gymnastics? Get Phil's fucking cock out of your throat.

Would you feel the same if it was Netflix? Hulu? Spotify? Maybe PlayStation Plus?

I, personally wouldn't use a subscription service for 28 out of 30 days and then think the refund it.

It just wouldn't cross my mind. Seems slimy as fuck.

You do you though.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Will somebody think of the trillion dollar companies.

 

[DenchDeckard]

I can't with some of the people on this site.

Haha, bunch of hypocritical fanboy weirdos lmao.

Gone on for years about the moral standing ground of renting games and not supporting studios etc

And then, because they show their clear fanboyism they want to not even contribute to the funds a studio may receive from gamepass because they are pulling shady shit.

The funny part is, it's all the people you expect to be saying they will and want to do this.

I am just glad that I make enough money that I don't have to waste my personal time doing this shit.

And it has nothing to do with MS its about the studios. If you think this trick is not affecting the money the studios would get in some way then you literally have no business mind.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Haha, bunch of hypocritical fanboy weirdos lmao.

 

[mdkirby]

All these tactics sound like priming for future threads begging for gafs help because they've been permabanned "for no reason" and lost access to their libraries.

"Help me gaf I've been banned for no reason"

"Are you sure there's no reason"

"Yeah I did nothing wrong, and they won't even tell me why"

"Hmm what's the post from 2025 about then?"

""

 

[DenchDeckard]

At least I support the gaming industry my dude. And I am no where near on the same fanboyism level as these Sony few that won't sniff at another platform.

Proper odd bods

 

[DeepEnigma]

At least I support the gaming industry my dude. And I am no where near on the same fanboyism level as these Sony few that won't sniff at another platform.

Proper odd bods

Bro, you're crashing out right now over your favorite brand.

Everything out your mouth is, "Sony this, Sony fanboys that"

Zero introspection.

 

[CuteFaceJay]

It's not about the money.

It's all about the engagement.

You know inflation is crazy when the engagement is worth more than the currency.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

I can't with some of the people on this site.

Haha, bunch of hypocritical fanboy weirdos lmao.

Gone on for years about the moral standing ground of renting games and not supporting studios etc

And then, because they show their clear fanboyism they want to not even contribute to the funds a studio may receive from gamepass because they are pulling shady shit.

The funny part is, it's all the people you expect to be saying they will and want to do this.

I am just glad that I make enough money that I don't have to waste my personal time doing this shit.

And it has nothing to do with MS its about the studios. If you think this trick is not affecting the money the studios would get in some way then you literally have no business mind.

I didn't choose the refundpass life

The refundpass life chose me

 

[Astray]

All these tactics sound like priming for future threads begging for gafs help because they've been permabanned "for no reason" and lost access to their libraries.

"Help me gaf I've been banned for no reason"

"Are you sure there's no reason"

"Yeah I did nothing wrong, and they won't even tell me why"

"Hmm what's the post from 2025 about then?"

""

If he gets banned he loses nothing because Gamepass doesn't confer any kind of ownership anyways.

He'd just roll a new Xbox account and keep on truckin.

 

[bitbydeath]

I don't know why anyone is upset about this.
XboxGAF has always been taking advantage of MS, from $1 deals, to MS points paying the way. This is just another of those.

 

[Thief1987]

I can't with some of the people on this site.

Haha, bunch of hypocritical fanboy weirdos lmao.

Gone on for years about the moral standing ground of renting games and not supporting studios etc

And then, because they show their clear fanboyism they want to not even contribute to the funds a studio may receive from gamepass because they are pulling shady shit.

The funny part is, it's all the people you expect to be saying they will and want to do this.

I am just glad that I make enough money that I don't have to waste my personal time doing this shit.

And it has nothing to do with MS its about the studios. If you think this trick is not affecting the money the studios would get in some way then you literally have no business mind.

It's ms who should think about their and their studios wealth. Why they can't implement something so primitive like partial refund and refund you only the days that remain of your paid period? Like it's working like that in almost every sub service I was ever subscribed. Why it's a trillion $ corporation who don't give a heck, and if they don't why should we?

 

[Baemono]

At least I support the gaming industry my dude.

Did you buy Doom for 80$ ?

 

[DenchDeckard]

Bro, you're crashing out right now over your favorite brand.

Everything out your mouth is, "Sony this, Sony fanboys that"

Zero introspection.

What. I only mentioned Sony fans today because it doesn't take a genius to see who is posting in this thread in support of this. And we know why some of the comments are being said. Sony fans warring against MS and nothing else.

Did you buy Doom for 80$ ?

Nope. Its apart of my gamepass sub that I pay for and not refund.

Look, if people don't have morales then that's fine for them I guess. Not for me.

I personally don't put this far from pirating tbh. That's my opinion.

 

[Baemono]

Nope. Its apart of my gamepass sub that I pay for and not refund.

Look, if people don't gave morales then that's fine.

I personally don't put this far from pirating tbh. That's my opinion.

I agree, I don't find the whole "hack" good for the industry.

I tried to subscribe to Xbox GP but I am technically not eligible despite working close to Microsoft headquarters (the amount of countries supported by Xbox is ridiculously low - like they have STALKER 2 day one Game Pass but Ukraine is not supported) so that's another issue.

I just found it odd you saying "at least I support the gaming industry" while finding ways to not pay full price a game (that would show support for the devs) - in my opinion.

 

[DeepEnigma]

What. I only mentioned Sony fans today because it doesn't take a genius to see who is posting in this thread in support of this. And we know why some of the comments are being said. Sony fans warring against MS and nothing else.

Poor MS fans. Always the victims in the gaming paradigm.

 

[mdkirby]

If he gets banned he loses nothing because Gamepass doesn't confer any kind of ownership anyways.

He'd just roll a new Xbox account and keep on truckin.

That's assuming they don't own any games. To be fair I could probably do that, I spend thousands every year on ps5 but never bought a single thing on xbox, I just have an almost unused gamespass sub I keep forgetting to cancel, and a black box mostly used to catch cat hair.

 

[RoboFu]

I am more worried about why you would need to do such a thing? You okay? I could put you in touch with homeless shelter and economic help plans.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

That's assuming they don't own any games.

Who the fuck do you think I am?

 

[Paasei]

Clever use of game mechanics.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

I am more worried about why you would need to do such a thing? You okay? I could put you in touch with homeless shelter and economic help plans.

Keep paying for games nerd

 

[DenchDeckard]

I agree, I don't find the whole "hack" good for the industry.

I tried to subscribe to Xbox GP but I am technically not eligible despite working close to Microsoft headquarters (the amount of countries supported by Xbox is ridiculously low - like they have STALKER 2 day one Game Pass but Ukraine is not supported) so that's another issue.

I just found it odd you saying "at least I support the gaming industry" while finding ways to not pay full price a game (that would show support for the devs) - in my opinion.

I still purchase plenty of games. Any game that i thoroughly enjoy i buy at a later date, if it's on gamepass. So they actually get double money out of me in a way.

I buy and rent so much content. Just like I do with movies. I still have a full 4k set up with 4k blu ray player. So thanks to streaming and gamepass/ ps plus extra i get to try games and movies i wouldn't normally buy out right then I pick them up to buy when I get a deal on them. So yes, I buy some games at full price and some on sale just like I always have. Just depends on how much the title appeals to me.

 

[Darkkahn]

I am more worried about why you would need to do such a thing? You okay? I could put you in touch with homeless shelter and economic help plans.

He'll buy a house by saving the money he'd otherwise waste on Gamepass.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Poor MS fans. Always the victims in the gaming paradigm.

What is your mission objective here. Haha. You always act like this but can not see the hypocrisy that is being shown here.

All this talk about supporting the industry and buying games and then this thread appears and you only have to glance at who is in favour of this.

Carry on dude.

 

[mdkirby]

Who the fuck do you think I am?

sooo does that mean you own any games? Or is it a burner account?

 

[DeepEnigma]

MSWhat is your mission objective here. Haha. You always act like this but can not see the hypocrisy that is being shown here.

All this talk about supporting the industry and buying games and then this thread appears and you only have to glance at who is in favour of this.

Carry on dude.

Here's the kicker in all of this.

MS has nobody to blame but themselves. Same with Amazon for constantly giving out free 30 day Prime trials for their atrocious delivery service (now), and also giving full refunds when you cancel. Over and over to the same account.

These companies do this to themselves. They can easily fix this. But again, I don't feel sorry for them in the slightest, when they're constantly thinking up new ways to cook the wallets of their customers. $80+ DLC-like games. Raising prices on shitty hardware, etc..

"Supporting the industry" doesn't mean to blindly follow the shareholders will.

 

[Mr Moose]

What is your mission objective here. Haha. You always act like this but can not see the hypocrisy that is being shown here.

All this talk about supporting the industry and buying games and then this thread appears and you only have to glance at who is in favour of this.

Carry on dude.

This thread is about renting games and money saving tips from Martin Lewis.

Game Pass is not "supporting the industry".

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

sooo does that mean you own any games? Or is it a burner account?

I own viva pinata and that's about it

 

[mdkirby]

I own viva pinata and that's about it

Not a great loss then , that's a pretty wildly random singular xbox game to own lol.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Not a great loss then , that's a pretty wildly random singular xbox game to own lol.

I can't even remember why. Someone wanted to see pinatas having sex or something so we bought it

 

[Paasei]

I own viva pinata and that's about it

Is it not on gamepass? Then you can refund the game, too. Double win.

 

[Baemono]

Here's the kicker in all of this.

MS has nobody to blame but themselves. Same with Amazon for constantly giving out free 30 day Prime trials for their atrocious delivery service (now), and also giving full refunds when you cancel. Over and over to the same account.

These companies do this to themselves. They can easily fix this. But again, I don't feel sorry for them in the slightest, when they're constantly thinking up new ways to cook the wallets of their customers. $80+ DLC-like games. Raising prices on shitty hardware, etc..

"Supporting the industry" doesn't mean to blindly follow the shareholders will.

I read a report years ago suggesting the incentive to have free trials gives them more paid customers than the number of customers that keep cancelling and subscribing again.

Same applies for the incentive to buy something and receive a voucher/free gift with it, most people don't do it at the end (but I do, that's how I got my PS4 back in 2018).

 

[GymWolf]

Is this also valid on pc? I could try dark ages with this trick...

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Is this also valid on pc? I could try dark ages with this trick...

Two of the times i've done it has been for PC gamepass

 

[Holdfing]

I always feel like an asshole when I take the $1 deal, play through a game, cancel, and in a few months when there's another game I want to try, I can take the $1 deal again.
This is some next level shit.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

This thread is about renting games and money saving tips from Martin Lewis.

Game Pass is not "supporting the industry".

 

[PeteBull]

Ass of Can Whooping is like that secret "sneaky link" guy that fucks girl u dating even tho she pretends to not like sex/wait for marriage when she talks with u, he is also getting leftover bag food from every date u pay full price on

 

[Topher]

And it has nothing to do with MS its about the studios. If you think this trick is not affecting the money the studios would get in some way then you literally have no business mind.

What. I only mentioned Sony fans today because it doesn't take a genius to see who is posting in this thread in support of this. And we know why some of the comments are being said. Sony fans warring against MS and nothing else.

That's all fine but cut the bullshit about this not being about MS. As you say, "it doesn't take a genius" to figure out why this triggers you. If this were EA's or Ubisoft's service you wouldn't be so worked up. If you are going to highlight Sony fans then absolutely nothing wrong with calling you out as the Microsoft fan you are.

At least I support the gaming industry my dude. And I am no where near on the same fanboyism level as these Sony few that won't sniff at another platform.

 

[aliadiere25]

I tried this, and Phil turned up at my door and arrested me.

 

[DenchDeckard]

That's all fine but cut the bullshit about this not being about MS. As you say, "it doesn't take a genius" to figure out why this triggers you. If this were EA's or Ubisoft's service you wouldn't be so worked up. If you are going to highlight Sony fans then absolutely nothing wrong with calling you out as the Microsoft fan you are.

I actually would care about ubisoft and whoever.

Look, how my morale compass works is pay for what you use.

If i went to a restaurant and ate almost the whole meal then asked for my money back...damn.