Gamepass - Subscribe Cancel and Refund Life Hack

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Thank you Ass of Can Whooping Ass of Can Whooping you are a gentleman and a genius!
Just created a xbox account with a simplelogin alias and it works! The satisfaction of playing xbox mediocre games without giving them a single euro is :messenger_darts:
xcloud for free here I come lol

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hououinkyouma00 said:
It's funny you are talking about fanboyism.
  • Fucking LOL at "At least I support the industry my dude". You really think Game Pass is the best way to support the fucking devs? Buy their game and stfu if you are really all about the devs and supporting them.
  • "Sony fanboys that won't sniff at another platform" I play on everything, and in reference to what is obviously your beloved choice of console I have played on Xbox since Christmas 2001 and owned every single Xbox besides the 360 E (OG, OG 360, 360S, XBO, XBO S, XBO X, XBSX, XBSS) with some being bought multiple times.
  • "I'm glad I make enough money" so now you've resorted to the WELL IM JUST GLAD IM NOT POOR LIKE ALL THESE PEOPLE.
  • You really just compared cancelling a subscription and getting a refund that Microsoft openly gives you the option for to piracy? Fucking hell
  • You shit on people that are cancelling and getting their money back but then backtrack to say that it's Microsoft's fault and not the people you were just shitting on. The only "absolute joke" is you mate.
Also the word you appear to be looking for over and over and over again is moral/morals not morale/morales.
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Thanks for the English lesson.
Mr Moose said:
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My multi-year stacked Gamepass subscription expired last month. I've barely used it and came nowhere remotely close to getting $20 per month out of it. Starfield was the last game I played from beginning to end using Gamepass.

I bought Indiana Jones on Steam so I could support the developers and be able to play it on my living room Steam PC.

I haven't missed it in the slightest and am happy to do my part to put an end to this scam known as Gamepass. The sooner it dies. The better. I am happy to do my part to kill it.

What would it take to get me to reconsider Gamepass?

Allow it to be used on Steam and earn achievements on both Steam and Xbox. Get rid of the awful Xbox launcher and DRMed to hell games that don't really allow mods.

All of my PC Gaming is pretty much on Steam.
 
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cireza said:
Come on, this is an excuse, nothing else.

If a product offers good value for you, the fact that you can abuse a system to get it for free doesn't mean you have to do it. This is also about how you behave as an adult and how you consider the people that provide the product you use.

If someone was never complaining about you being a total jerk to him, you would be a total jerk all the time ?

Note : abusing region prices was total shit as well.
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That's fair. My point was that Microsoft should not allow this to happen. They have had more holes to exploit their services than any that I've ever heard of. Whether they are just incompetently unaware or just don't care, it shouldn't be a surprise that people take advantage of this stuff. But yeah.....when I said "blame them" referring to Microsoft then I should have said they have part of the blame, not all.

DenchDeckard said:
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Whenever I see any of these peeps talk about buying games etc in the future i know they are talking complete shit.
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You said "thank you" when he just called you out as well for abusing region prices? My man.....you've got no room to look down on anyone for any of this.
 
DenchDeckard said:
Im not pretending I did. Why are you lot trying to turn this on me.

I have bought balders gate 3 twice. Once at full price and once cheaper.

I could have waited and bought it on sale but I thought I would try it as it was on here.

Now I have users trying to use it against me for people getting a full refund on something.

Cmon guys, you can't be real.
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The fact that you cannot see your own hypocrisy is amazing
 
Topher said:
That's fair. My point was that Microsoft should not allow this to happen. They have had more holes to exploit their services than any that I've ever heard of. Whether they are just incompetently unaware or just don't care, it shouldn't be a surprise that people take advantage of this stuff. But yeah.....when I said "blame them" referring to Microsoft then I should have said they have part of the blame, not all.



You said "thank you" when he just called you out as well for abusing region prices? My man.....you've got no room to look down on anyone for any of this.
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I think all Microsoft/Xbox cares about is numbers and even if somebody subscribes and they give them their money back they got their engagement numbers.

The only thing Xbox has at this point is Game Pass numbers as it's the only thing they can exploit to look good for investors.
 
hououinkyouma00 said:
I think all Microsoft/Xbox cares about is numbers and even if somebody subscribes and they give them their money back they got their engagement numbers.

The only thing Xbox has at this point is Game Pass numbers as it's the only thing they can exploit to look good for investors.
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Yep. I'm sure they still count these in their GP numbers that Xbox executives report up the chain. In a way, Ass of Can Whooping Ass of Can Whooping is doing them a favor.

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DenchDeckard said:
What cracks me up is they talk about fanboyism and warring and they are too stupid to notice they are doing all of this as warring against MS.

Too funny.

But you are right. Its better to just laugh at them and ignore pretty much everything they say. Im sure they feel the same way about me and that's fine.
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DenchDeckard said:
What's so funny about this is i bought balders gate 3 on steam for full price and then bought the xbox version to play across multiple devices with cloud saves.
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They think it's a gotcha that you spent more on the game than the average person has, you're clearly not supporting the developers doing that.
 
DenchDeckard said:
You're on fire in here. Everyone will ignore you but this is where I am at.


What's so funny about this is i bought balders gate 3 on steam for full price and then bought the xbox version to play across multiple devices with cloud saves.

Try harder next time ;)
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Yes I did the same across PC and PS. Except I paid full price for it on both systems because I'm not a scumbag who rips off Larian. Hilarious that you're in here waving your finger about morals and meanwhile you're straight up stealing from one of the top studios in the industry right now that has released tons of free content for their GOTY. You were also talking about how you have plenty of money and don't need to do shit like this. I mean come on man.
 
Reizo Ryuu said:
They think it's a gotcha that you spent more on the game than the average person has, you're clearly not supporting the developers doing that.
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The only "gotcha" is how he obtained that second copy. Does buying one copy of a game allow you to use exploits for another? If someone is going to flex over their "morals" then shit like this will be called into question and it should be.
 
Reizo Ryuu said:
In the end he sent more money to the developer of BG3 than the average person, and certainly more than someone who abuses a refund exploit.
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Actually Microsoft pay the devs up front for the gamepass deals.

So the only person losing money in the scenario of a gamepass refund is... Microsoft.

So much for the times when people told us not to worry about such matters and that Microsoft have deep pockets and as such can afford it regardless of how much people are (or aren't) paying for gamepass.

Please remember, Phil told everyone gamepass is sustainable for them.

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GHG said:
Actually Microsoft pay the devs up front for the gamepass deals.

So the only person losing money in the scenario of a gamepass refund is... Microsoft.

So much for the times when people told us not to worry about such matters and that Microsoft have deep pockets and as such can afford it regardless of how much people are (or aren't) paying for gamepass.

Please remember, Phil told everyone gamepass is sustainable for them.

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And don't forget oh so noble MS only doing the 'buy the Xbox copy and get the PC version' just to funnel people into their shit-smeared Windows Store, without even putting effort to improve that garden. Even EGS have been making more strides in comparison.

The Steam version that you really want is of course behind a paywall, as every other publisher. Tends to breed a certain sense of entitlement for the end user. Ironic, really.
 
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Reizo Ryuu said:
In the end he sent more money to the developer of BG3 than the average person, and certainly more than someone who abuses a refund exploit.
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That doesn't mean he has the moral high ground to wag his finger for using exploits when he does it himself. The average person is going to pay full price for that second copy of a game. He paid $12 through Egypt.
 
Reizo Ryuu said:
The average person isn't going to buy a second copy at all, c'mon now.
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If you're going to take this stance then you should also have no problem with the subject matter of this thread since the average person isn't subscribing to gamepass and refunding it.
 
Again, GHG GHG remind me to never get on your bad side. Your knack for digging up past posts to bury someone is uncanny.

Shit, even if I have a dream where I insult you I hope you give me a chance to wake up and apologize.
 
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Reizo Ryuu said:
In the end he sent more money to the developer of BG3 than the average person, and certainly more than someone who abuses a refund exploit.
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1. The point was that he judging people based off of their Morales morals because they are using "exploits" and yet he also used an exploit so he's no better then the people he's trying to act superior to.
2. It's hardly even an exploit when all you are doing is cancelling your subscription so you don't pay for another month of a service you don't want/need and Microsoft gives you two options and you take one. Is it an exploit when you go to cancel your Discovery+ subscription and they say he you could definitely cancel but what if we gives you 75% off for 3 months? Or is it only an exploit when it affects the company you care about? Would he still be going so hard on this if it was about somebody cancelling their PS+ subscription and Sony giving them their money back?
 
hououinkyouma00 said:
1. The point was that he judging people based off of their Morales morals because they are using "exploits" and yet he also used an exploit so he's no better then the people he's trying to act superior to.
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Maybe I got it wrong, but as I understood it, his argument was that the same people who are ok with these exploits where money is literally going nowhere, are the same who berate other users for using services/points/deals because they don't "support the industry", so then trying to catch him in a "gotcha" didn't make any sense, since all it showed was him still sending more money into the industry than the average person.
 
Topher said:
So you bought two copies of the game for the convenience of playing across multiple devices and used a regional exploit to get that second copy for "12 pounds". Is this correct?
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I don't understand (genuinely) how you come to this conclusion though ?
 
I do it with Prime Gaming. Subscribe, redeem like 20 games, cancel and get charged 0,3€, repeat next month. Granted, many of those games are whatever but there's a bunch of standouts too.
 
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hououinkyouma00 said:
I think all Microsoft/Xbox cares about is numbers and even if somebody subscribes and they give them their money back they got their engagement numbers.

The only thing Xbox has at this point is Game Pass numbers as it's the only thing they can exploit to look good for investors.
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Microsoft still seems to be living in a 2020 subscription world, where those were going up. We are no longer in that era. Subscription services are consolidating and number are shrinking. Netflix is the only one that has managed to remain profitable.

I am surprised we havent seen more consolidation.
 
JohnnyFootball said:
Microsoft still seems to be living in a 2020 subscription world, where those were going up. We are no longer in that era. Subscription services are consolidating and number are shrinking. Netflix is the only one that has managed to remain profitable.

I am surprised we havent seen more consolidation.
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Sub services have been a great Hollywood laundering tool, but you can only loss-lead for so long before you're forced to come up with another avenue to cook the books.
 
Paasei said:
Still waiting for this shit to go live.
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What do you mean? You could enjoy this morally wrong developer closing exploit right now!

JohnnyFootball said:
Microsoft still seems to be living in a 2020 subscription world, where those were going up. We are no longer in that era. Subscription services are consolidating and number are shrinking. Netflix is the only one that has managed to remain profitable.

I am surprised we havent seen more consolidation.
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Netflix have also raised their prices like 5 times it seems in the past year. Something that is only inevitable for Game Pass as well.
 
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Let me get this straight, a corporation that regularly exploits government loopholes leaves one open that everyday people can use , and some common folks are mad at other common folks for using said loop hole?
 
Idleyes said:
Let me get this straight, a corporation that regularly exploits government loopholes leaves one open that everyday people can use , and some common folks are mad at other common folks for using said loop hole?
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Phil Spencer, head of Xbox said: "If we can get them (hardcore Xbox fans) to love it they will evangelize," he wrote.
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"Our weapons are psychological, economic and political." - Effective Evangelism, Microsoft Confidential, 1 of 4, paragraph 2.
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"In the slog, Microsoft dukes it out with the competition. Platform marketing are the regular forces, exchanging blows with the enemy mano-a-mano. Evangelism should avoid formal, frontal assaults, instead focusing on hit n run tactics ." - Generalized Evangelism Timeline, Microsoft Confidential, Page 9 of 27, Paragraphs 3.
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"The elements of evangelical infrastructure are conference presentations... magazine articles (media press), whitepapers etc (pseudo technical reviews) and they start hitting the streets at the start of the "Slog". They should be numerous so as to push all other..off the shelf." - Generalized Evangelism Timeline, Microsoft Confidential, Page 9 of 27, Paragraphs 5.
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"Working behind the scenes to orchestrate "independent" praise of our technology, and damnation of the enemies' is a key evangelism function during the Slog." - Generalized Evangelism Timeline, Microsoft Confidential, Page 9 of 27, Paragraphs 6.
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"Independent" consultants should write columns and articles, give conference presentations and moderate stacked panels, all on our behalf (and setting them up as experts in new technology, available for just $200 hour). - Generalized Evangelism Timeline, Microsoft Confidential, Page 9 of 27. Paragraph 6.
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