We weren't talking about the best possible gaming experience afaik - we were talking about couch play, you commented along the lines of 'it's not hard to plug in a HDMI' - there's clearly more to it than that.Convenience is not relevant to get the best possible gaming experience.
This poster already hit the high points. I don't think I need to say more!Xbox
- I own 800+ digital Xbox games
- I prefer the controller
- I game share with my son so he can play all my games from his house for no cost to him
- All my friends and relatives have Xbox
The thread is about the overall experience of gaming, not exclusively about one aspect or another. The talk about plugging on TV is just a tiny almost insignificant thing about gaming.We weren't talking about the best possible gaming experience afaik - we were talking about couch play, you commented along the lines of 'it's not hard to plug in a HDMI' - there's clearly more to it than that.
It sure is for me.Convenience is not relevant to get the best possible gaming experience.
Then be happy playing some 720p games with paid online because it's is more plug and play.It sure is for me.
I am happy, thank you. And I don't play online games.Then be happy playing some 720p games with paid online because it's is more plug and play.![]()
To you. It's subjective whether or not you think it's objective which I'm sure you will.Convenience is not relevant to get the best possible gaming experience.
lol what argument is that?I don't know you but I wait 5 minutes for the download or I play something else while I wait the download. What happens when I lay down on my mattress to play a game on my console but the game has crap IQ, performance, controls, insanely long loading screens plus I can't play online because I didn't pay an extra??
PS5 got Forza 5, Gears of War, Indy, etc on day 1??
Cool that worse IQ, performance, controls bla bla etc etc can give a better experience because your preference allows. Enjoy.To you. It's subjective whether or not you think it's objective which I'm sure you will.
What is the best possible gaming experience for you may not be the best forBanjo64 or countless others. People have preferences, and those preferences makes certain things more appealing than others. Some people value things you do not, and you value things that others do not. The world is not black and white.
Looks great all the same, sure. Sony making the Pro was to give the same experience but charging more money, because they knew people would pay more for the same experience on base PS5. Same for RTX 2060 vs RTX 5090, etc...lol what argument is that?
Crappy iq? Maybe your brain because games on ps5 and on pro look great. Times when pc version looked vastly better are far over since last gen.
It all looks about the same. Pc just offers more fps.
And gears? Dude I played that on 360 20 years ago.
Fact is. Xbox and pc are waiting for far more ps4 and 5 games than other way around
What smoothness?? PC can run almost everything at 4k/120fps on TVs. What do you consider more smooth than that??But sorry it doesn't compare at all to the smoothness of the console experience.
See. I knew you would ignore everything to keep up your dumb ass PCMR narrative. I'd ignore you if I didn't find your pathetic one note existence entertaining.Cool that worse IQ, performance, controls bla bla etc etc can give a better experience because your preference allows. Enjoy.
Ignore everything what?? Like ignoring everything better about playing on PC because just pressing a button on controller is more convenient on controller so this automatically makes the console experience better overall?? The hypocrisy.See. I knew you would ignore everything to keep up your dumb ass PCMR narrative. I'd ignore you if I didn't find your pathetic one note existence entertaining.
What smoothness?? PC can run almost everything at 4k/120fps on TVs. What do you consider more smooth than that??
You still choose to ignore the fact that I specifically stated that it's subjective. Yes some people will value simplicity/ease of use more then 4K/240hz/Path Tracing or countless other things that PC allows you to do. Your narrow world view shows.Ignore everything what?? Like ignoring everything better about playing on PC because just pressing a button on controller is more convenient on controller so this automatically makes the console experience better overall?? The hypocrisy.
I wouldn't ever expect to have a honest conversation with him. He has always and will always pick and choose what he wants to respond to and choose to interpret things in a way that fit's his narrative.Dude you have got to be kidding me. Maybe take one more pass over my wording, there.
He will probably ignore your post and or try to gaslight you into thinking you were talking about something else.
So what is more "smoothness"??Dude you have got to be kidding me. Maybe take one more pass over my wording, there.
You still choose to ignore the fact that I specifically stated that it's subjective. Yes some people will value simplicity/ease of use more then 4K/240hz/Path Tracing or countless other things that PC allows you to do. Your narrow world view shows.
So what is more "smoothness"??
So you call the "more "plug and play" while having more crap everything else" more smoothness overall ??? Funny.Less friction!!! I used both turns of phrase talking about the same thing like two sentences apart!!!
So you call the "more "plug and play" while having more crap everything else" more smoothness overall ??? Funny.
For what is a mostly American forum this is a damning indictment
If you suggested things would get this bad back in the 360 days you'd have been burned for at the stake for heresy
If this is how bad it is in America, just think how bad it is in Europe and Asia
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That's not a fact. It highly depends on what games you value more. You enjoy the Sony exclusives, while I (and others) spend more time on titles that never go to consoles or get delayed. Recently I have played a ton of Stellaris and Satisfactory, the former has a nerfed ancient build available on PS4 and the latter is simply not on console.Fact is. Xbox and pc are waiting for far more ps4 and 5 games than other way around
PC because my RTX 3080 is STILL supposed to provide better \performance than the most graphically advanced console on the market (PS5 Pro).
That, and key sites letting me get games at a discount, the massive amounts of free game giveaways on online stores, the severe lack of PS5-only games, Game Pass on PC as an option, and so much more. PC really is the best if the price differential isn't a deal breaker.
I got it in a prebuilt back in 2020 or 2021. All-in, it was ~$1800.How much did the 3080 cost?
Good gamesThat's not a fact. It highly depends on what games you value more. You enjoy the Sony exclusives, while I (and others) spend more time on titles that never go to consoles or get delayed. Recently I have played a ton of Stellaris and Satisfactory, the former has a nerfed ancient build available on PS4 and the latter is simply not on console.
Yep, both Satisfactory and Stellaris are good. Especially Satisfactory.Good games
What. These are indie games that are just on pc.Yep, both Satisfactory and Stellaris are good. Especially Satisfactory.
Stellaris is hardly indie. And way to utterly miss the point.What. These are indie games that are just on pc.