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maybe Scream and Shout will pass it next
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What you should know is that Trouble has just passed S&T
maybe Scream and Shout will pass it next
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They raise some interesting points. This one in particular was my favorite:
"The possibility that shes an extremely powerful woman who works in a sexist industry ... and is constantly navigating how to assert her own agency while resisting/accommodating/subverting the worlds expectations of her is not entertained."
Discuss.
There's a reason Feministing is a blog I check for.
I don't trust popgaf to be able to have a thorough and meaningful discussion about feminism, womanism, intersectionality, the recognition of female agency, and sexuality as it pertains to the ownership of the self, Koodo.
Do you?
but i appreciate that some here understand that feminism doesn't necessarily have to come fully clothed
Do you?
but i appreciate that some here understand that feminism doesn't necessarily have to come fully clothed
There is no discussion to be had. Beyonce has never claimed to be a feminist, therefore the article that is being criticized by the above blogpost is wrong.
Had the article talked about Beyonce's hypocrisy, stealing, or how bad of an album "4" was... then it would have been right. However, as it stands, that article is just the squawking of a judgmental pseudo-feminist.
Did I lie?
exhibit a:
There is no discussion to be had. Beyonce has never claimed to be a feminist, therefore the article that is being criticized by the above blogpost is wrong.
Had the article talked about Beyonce's hypocrisy, stealing, or how bad of an album "4" was... then it would have been right. However, as it stands, that article is just the squawking of a judgmental pseudo-feminist.
Did I lie?
There is no discussion to be had. Beyonce has never claimed to be a feminist, therefore the article that is being criticized by the above blogpost is wrong.
Had the article talked about Beyonce's hypocrisy, stealing, or how bad of an album "4" was... then it would have been right. However, as it stands, that article is just the squawking of a judgmental pseudo-feminist.
Did I lie?
ooop, clocked
What you should know is that Trouble has just passed S&T
maybe Scream and Shout will pass it next
Justin will be #1 on Digital songs next week tho. He's not bothered.
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Greetings Kieffaaaaaaaaaah
How's janelle?
Where is the lie?
Talking shit about 4.
I think generalizing all criticism of Beyonce as simple bitching about her posing nude is taking the easy way out. Especially in the context of who gets stanned regularly here in PopGAF. I in particular would be a hypocrite, since I believe that Xtina of all people has been a positive feminist figure and she's spent the bulk of her career butt-ass-naked.
Also, if the article from The Guardian is guilty of assuming the worst, this piece is guilty of only assuming the best intent on Beyonce's part. Hell, they're practically stanning at several points in the discussion. Well, she's Beyonce and thus awesome so why didn't the author of that article consider that she bla bla bla whatever."
I read it this morning. It is an opposing view, no more valid than the piece it's criticizing. I have nothing else to say about it.
My ritualistic dragging of the Creole Soup Kitchen Maven known as Beyonce will continue unimpeded.
She doesn't even have an avatar.
But how many songs do you use off of 4?
Hypocrisy is the watch-word of stanning.
I think we can separate their characterization of The Guardian article (accurate) with their speculations on Beyoncé's awesomeness (speculative stanning), sure. But it is not "no more valid"; the article arguing that she's hurting feminism by being seen in her underwear is hurting feminism is baseless.
They were right in their criticisms of Freeman's article, though.
I would still believe Xtina was a positive feminist figure even if I didn't stan her.
I disagree that the article slamming Bey was baseless, though. Though, I see two different issues being argued here. Feministing seems to be focusing on Bey having the right of agency and controlling her image and doing whatever the fuck she wants. This is true.
I think Freeman's position was more examining the perception of Beyonce's choices. Beyonce has the right to do whatever she wants, but the apparently hypocrisy in bitching about men defining sexy while appearing perfectly photoshopped, lightened, tucked and borderline nude on the cover of a men's magazine is something that I don't find necessarily wrong to criticize. It's like when parents lecture their children on the dangers of smoking while taking long drags of a cigarette.
Feministing is right in that women have every right to want to be seen as sexy. Then again...I wonder if Beyonce will be posing in an animal print thong with her titties exposed on the cover of Vogue next month...
EDIT: I also cackle at people defending Beyonce from "slut shaming" when Beyonce herself has done her fair share of slut shaming throughout her career. I guess when it's her turn to wear a pair of daisy dukes and toot that ass for men we're supposed to look the other way. A hypocrite and a disgrace.
now WAIT
I can't tell if this is the front or the back.
is that beyonce pic new? i hope that's not the kinda style/fashion/whatever she's going for in this new era. what a horrid pic.
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When did Queefer APPLY for a damn ACCOUNT?
Months ago. He has been perched on the waiting list, waiting for the day he could argue with me on here.
Months ago. He has been perched on the waiting list, waiting for the day he could argue with me on here.
But why would anyone want to argue with you? You are all that is perfection and flawlessness. Zenith of PURITY.
But why would anyone want to argue with you? You are all that is perfection and flawlessness. Zenith of PURITY.
One can not begin to understand how IT functions, but some how it does.
by the way,
I love you.
what is that...
Oh, botty, I forgot to respond to you. I use I Care, Best Thing I Never Had, Rather Die Young, Love On Top, Countdown, End of Time, and Schoolin' Life.
Yes.
I agreed with this:
And this is what I was talking about: For you, Christina doing the exact - lightening aside - same things when posing for men's magazines doesn't seem to make you think she's hypocritical when she's either talked about similar issues or written songs about it. Why not?
I'm drawing a blank here.
I told no lies, though.
Yes.
I agreed with this:
Thats my main problem: of all the things you could possibly discuss about that profile, Freeman chose to focus on the most boring one. I mean, of course Beyoncé is half-naked on the cover of GQ. Kinda like how she is in many of her music videos. Kinda like basically every other pop star today. Its one thing to bemoan the fact the fact that the sexist objectification machine is so extreme that even women who are famous for other things, like, say, playing sports or being pundits, are often sexualized by others or sexualize themselves. Even in the latter case, though, Id generally recommend not being a judgmental, slut-shaming asshole towards other women, since, ya know, the whole point is that there is strong cultural pressure to conform to this expectation. But pop stars? Please. Beyoncés imagewhich, yes, is damn sexyis part of her multimillion-dollar career. Call me if Hillary Clinton starts doing strip dances for the Austrian ambassador or something, and maybe well stage a feminist intervention.
And this is what I was talking about: For you, Christina doing the exact - lightening aside - same things when posing for men's magazines doesn't seem to make you think she's hypocritical when she's either talked about similar issues or written songs about it. Why not?
I'm drawing a blank here.
I told no lies, though.
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